Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. > > There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting > at https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/09/msg00096.html ; my > personal preference is entry-point > (https://lists

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 02:45:26, Don Armstrong a écrit : > On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. > > > > There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting > > at https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/09/

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 02:45:26, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. > > > > > > There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting >

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs > or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs > which are more difficult than it would be reasonable for a new > contributor to help.

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > > > The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs > > or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs > > which are more difficult than

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs > or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs > which are more difficult than it would be reasonable for a new > contributor to help. > > I suppose it woul

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:54:50, Don Armstrong a écrit : > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > > Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > > > > > The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs > > > or wants help; these are basically

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:54:50, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > > > Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > > > > > > > The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the mai

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > In fact, I believe they should be mostly disjoint. As a maintainer, I > welcome help on all bugs. > When I tag a bug help it's because I believe that I don't have the > skills to fix it by myself and that external help is really needed to > make some progress. +1. I u

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:54:05PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > Excellent; thanks. I'm going to make these gender-neutral, and then I'll > commit them. > > This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag > name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, ar

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-11-13 09:42, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 07:42:33PM +0100, Stéphane Aulery wrote: >> entry-point >> The maintainer can easily solve this bug by himself, but he >> wants to take it to new contributors who wish to get involved >> in Debian. Bugs of any diff

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 à 11:51:51, Christian Kastner a écrit : > On 2014-11-13 09:42, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > > I don't think we should include the initial part about "maintainer can > > easily solve...", as it does seems a bit patronizing ("that's easy for > > me, but I won't do it bec

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-11-13 12:43, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > I'm sorry my English is poor and I can hardly do better. I wanted to > summarize the main ideas of the second paragraph on page [1] which I > find very good. The maintainer should know the first glance by reading > the description if it can offer the b

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 à 03:54:05, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag > name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, around > 18:00 UTC. I am looking for an idea in a nutshell. I'm not English so it's hard

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread David
On 14 November 2014 00:59, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 à 03:54:05, Don Armstrong a écrit : >> >> This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag >> name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, around >> 18:00 UTC. > >apprent

Re: Making "entry-point" nee "gift" a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-15 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Hello, Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 à 01:07:52, Christian Kastner a écrit : > On 2014-11-13 12:43, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > > > I'm sorry my English is poor and I can hardly do better. I wanted to > > summarize the main ideas of the second paragraph on page [1] which I > > find very good. The mainta