Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Bluefuture
This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: The Debian-qa and debian devel could develop a system for trace all upstream version of a software using the Debian/Watch file and uscan tool and put this info in a db storing relase version, devel/stable status of the new upstream rel

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Pedro M.
Bluefuture escribió: This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: The Debian-qa and debian devel could develop a system for trace all upstream version of a software using the Debian/Watch file and uscan tool and put this info in a db storing relase version, devel/stable status

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bluefuture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > > The Debian-qa and debian devel could develop a system for trace all > upstream version of a software using the Debian/Watch file and uscan > tool and put this info in a db storing relase ve

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Riku Voipio
On Friday 20 February 2004 23:37, Bluefuture wrote: > So this alert sensors could perform some automatical tasks. For example: > > - Defcon 5 Send an automatic alert via email to Debian Qa > - Defcon 4 Send an automatic email to Debian Qa and open an automatic > wishlist or minor bug on the package

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Bluefuture
Il ven, 2004-02-20 alle 23:07, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto: > Bluefuture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > > I think the first action should be a reminder to the maintainer. If > one has to check the watch page one could just as

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: [...] > So this alert sensors could perform some automatical tasks. For example: > > - Defcon 5 Send an automatic alert via email to Debian Qa > - Defcon 4 Send an automatic email to Debian Qa and open an automatic > wishlist or minor bug

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Burton
> I'm not sure you can say it's always a bug for Debian's package to be > out-of-sync with the latest upstream release. > > For instance, there is a 2.x release of CPAN's HTML::FromText, which is > a complete rewrite by a new upstream maintainer. However, the new > maintainer freely admits tha

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Bluefuture
Il sab, 2004-02-21 alle 00:00, Ben Burton ha scritto: > > I'm not sure you can say it's always a bug for Debian's package to be > > out-of-sync with the latest upstream release. > > > > For instance, there is a 2.x release of CPAN's HTML::FromText, which is > > a complete rewrite by a new upstre

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-20 Thread Bluefuture
The problem could be analyzed in this way. There is the Debian Frontier composed by debian-developer/mantainers. Outside the Debian Frontier there are the freesoftware developers. Some debian-developer are freesoftware developers and some debian-freesoftware-developer are at the same time the maint

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-21 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Saturday 21 February 2004 04.12, Bluefuture wrote: > The problem could be analyzed in this way. [...] The open question currently for many people is: - who implements this piece of software? - who maintains it? I propose that you do a quick-and-dirty implementation of it available on some w

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-21 Thread Bluefuture
There is a ground problem for begin to work on my proposal and it is well explained in this post from Filippo Giunchedi on debian QA ml: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2004/debian-qa-200401/msg00042.html Il sab, 2004-02-21 alle 09:29, Matt Bonner ha scritto: > I think the basic resistance you

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: >... It's a common misunderstanding that automatic tools would be able to solve every problem. Automatic tools might help you to identify QA problems, but they are only

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-21 Thread Bluefuture
Il sab, 2004-02-21 alle 23:54, Adrian Bunk ha scritto: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > > > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > >... > > It's a common misunderstanding that automatic tools would be able to > solve every problem. > I do

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: >... > > > So this alert sensors could perform some automatical tasks. For example: > > > > > > - Defcon 5 Send an automatic alert via email to Debian Qa > > > > What are the benefits of spamming Debian QA with hundreds of mails? > > To

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-22 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > > The Debian-qa and debian devel could develop a system for trace all > upstream version of a software using the Debian/Watch file and uscan > tool and put this info in a

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-22 Thread Riku Voipio
On Saturday 21 February 2004 21:00, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > > The Debian-qa and debian devel could develop a system for trace all > > upstream version of a software u

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-22 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 12:53:54PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Saturday 21 February 2004 21:00, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > > > This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: > > > > The Debian-qa and debian devel co

Re: Proposal for an advanced Debian-QA system

2004-02-27 Thread Pedro M.
Adrian Bunk escribió: On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:37:22PM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: This are some idea for an advanced automatic Debian-qa system: ... It's a common misunderstanding that automatic tools would be able to solve every problem. Automatic tools are inhumen. And the wor