Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:46:23PM -0700, John Galt wrote: [ all developers should audit their code ] > > > > Sounds lovely, in theory. However, judging by the number of open bugs > > in some packages, out of date packages, etc, what makes you think > > developers would take this more seriously?

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:46:00PM -0800, Joe Buck wrote: > > > > Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole > > should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing > > requirement. I'm referring to insecure

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Andres Salomon
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:46:00PM -0800, Joe Buck wrote: > > Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole > should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing > requirement. I'm referring to insecure creation of temporary files, > allowing for symlink a

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Scott Sawyer
I'm definately not a developer but more a Debian enthusiast. Here is my thinking and it may not be correct. 1. If someone is going to develop software for debian they should be allowed even if they do not know how to secure it properly. Since people are volunteering I would hate to tell someo

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Eckersley
> If I were Debian dictator (and I'm not even a debian developer, though I am > what you guys call an "upstream developer" -- I'm on the GCC steering > committee), I'd add a requirement that every package owner certify that he > has checked the package s/he maintains for a list of common security >

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:46:00PM -0800, Joe Buck wrote: > > > > Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole > > should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing > > requirement. I'm referring to insecur

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Andres Salomon
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:46:00PM -0800, Joe Buck wrote: > > Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole > should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing > requirement. I'm referring to insecure creation of temporary files, > allowing for symlink

time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Joe Buck
Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing requirement. I'm referring to insecure creation of temporary files, allowing for symlink attacks. Now that we all know what this hole looks like, it should be

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Scott Sawyer
I'm definately not a developer but more a Debian enthusiast. Here is my thinking and it may not be correct. 1. If someone is going to develop software for debian they should be allowed even if they do not know how to secure it properly. Since people are volunteering I would hate to tell some

Re: time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Eckersley
> If I were Debian dictator (and I'm not even a debian developer, though I am > what you guys call an "upstream developer" -- I'm on the GCC steering > committee), I'd add a requirement that every package owner certify that he > has checked the package s/he maintains for a list of common security

time for some OpenBSD-style auditing?

2000-12-28 Thread Joe Buck
Notice that security holes fall into classes? One category of hole should be easy to eliminate from Debian by instituting a code auditing requirement. I'm referring to insecure creation of temporary files, allowing for symlink attacks. Now that we all know what this hole looks like, it should b