[SECURITY] [DSA 264-1] New lxr packages fix information disclosure

2003-03-19 Thread Martin Schulze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA 264-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze March 19th, 2003

Re: ptrace vulnerability?

2003-03-19 Thread Dariush Pietrzak
His announcement is Slashdotted, and I'm seeing no notice of which versions are affected! I'm running 2.4.18 on all my Debian servers, please tell me what's going on. same here...:( Why most this patch does is change kernel_thread into arch_kernel_thread? only usefull thing I see is

Re: Current OpenSSL vulnerability (CAN-2003-0147)

2003-03-19 Thread leppo
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2003 00:15 schrieb Timm Gleason: I have not seen any mention of this on this list. Is the current version (0.9.6c-2.woody.2) vulnerable to this current RSA issue? I've mentioned that one yesterday, too. This raised no reaction, probably because the subject Fwd: [ADVISORY]

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Tarjei Huse
Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). Substituting LDAP-SSL for NIS is arguably a step forward, but then NFS remains a problem (No Friggin' Security). Doesn't NFS v4 answer some of these problems? Does

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org seph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software was available in open source. A quick

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:35:53PM +0100, Ralf Dreibrodt wrote: Paul Hampson wrote: You can effectively chroot php files with: php_admin_value open_basedir /directory/where/files/are in the Apache virtual host config. Then: a) php4 won't let files outside that directory be accessed;

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Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:09:51AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some

kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread Martynas Domarkas
Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? Martynas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread David Ehle
As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. David. On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. No, CODA is not simply an AFS implementation. It is based on

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Coda is another CMU SCS project (as was AFS, which btw stands

Re: kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 at 05:18:05PM +0200, Martynas Domarkas wrote: Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? But if you are running a development system this pretty much breaks GDB (the way I understand it). -- Phil PGP/GPG Key:

Re: ptrace vulnerability?

2003-03-19 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 08:04, Giacomo Mulas wrote: Alan Cox apparently just made public a vulnerability in the stock kernel which would permit a local user to gain root privileges (see e.g. Linux Today, LWN, the LK mailing list...). Is a patched source package in the making already or

is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Jones
I am planning to replace a (dead) Windows 2000 computer that was used as a web server and email server with a Debian Linux solution. This machine is connected to the net via DSL and would run apache and exim/qpopper and sshd. Everything else would be turned off. It is a small church and

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Raymond Wood
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:44:13PM -0600, Jones remarked: I am planning to replace a (dead) Windows 2000 computer that was used as a web server and email server with a Debian Linux solution. This machine is connected to the net via DSL and would run apache and exim/qpopper and sshd.

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hi! On Wednesday 19 March 2003 20:44, Jones wrote: Am I right in assuming that iptabes is enough as a firewall solution and that I would not need to buy any additional software. Well, I'm primarily responding to your second question, but the way I would do it, if I had the resources, would

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Janus N.
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 20:44, Jones wrote: On a less related note, what hardware config would you recommend for such a system? She has a number of machines that I could choose from. Most of them are 1.x Ghz Pentium systems with 256MB RAM and 10 GB IDE hard drives. After increasing the RAM

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Keegan Quinn
Hello, On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:44 am, Jones wrote: I am planning to replace a (dead) Windows 2000 computer that was used as a web server and email server with a Debian Linux solution. This machine is connected to the net via DSL and would run apache and exim/qpopper and sshd.

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Ian Garrison
Imo iptables is a reasonably good stateful firewall and is fine in most cases. However, a very wise person once said that the ideal setup is to layer more than one implementation of packet filter and firewall between the wild and a host/network you wish to protect. Ideally implementations on

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:45:48PM +0100, Janus N. T?ndering wrote: This should be more than enough. I have been running a mailserver on a Pentium 133MHz 96 RAM + SCSI for a few years. It can handle quite a lot mail --- never had a problem. Hah! Is nothing! I run a cablemodem firewall,

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Kjetil Kjernsmo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Well, I'm primarily responding to your second question, but the way I would do it, if I had the resources, would be to get a small Pentium 133 MHz box, booting from a floppy and use it as a router and firewall. No harddrive, a complete

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Stefan Neufeind
What I find astonishing: Let's say you are running a webserver, maybe mailserver and a DNS on a server. What rules do you want to apply to the packets etc.? I would suggest to keep the open ports restricted, check for all current updates regularly (subscribe to several mailinglists etc.) and

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 22:58, Rick Moen wrote: You could do that with Linux Router Project floppy images -- but booting from floppy is really cramped. Through some miracle of economising on space, they finally migrated to libc6 and kernel 2.2.x, but God only knows how. Hehe... Using a

Re: kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread xbud
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:18, Martynas Domarkas wrote: Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? Martynas yes for the most part limiting access to /proc/self/exe breaks the exploit.

RE: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Jones, Steven
I run 2 cronjobs to apt update each machine every night and email me the updates, if I'm happy I login and do the upgrade. For protecting a single machine I have difficulty justifying a seperate firewall machine, I cannot see it achieving much unless the port forwarded ports are proxied, ie no

fw distros - Re: is iptables enough? (fwd)

2003-03-19 Thread Alvin Oga
rest of the secure distro or floppy-based distro for firewall grade OS -- or a hardened debian box.. http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Distro/ - but fromt he loosk of security advisories from some distro, its just like any other linux distro .. with more or less

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Hampson
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:15:15AM +0100, debian-isp wrote: I am just asking myself how to secure our webserver with a couple of virtual hosts. Currently we have a large installation of typo3 running. It has a feature called fileadmin with which you can easily upload files. As it is thereby

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Ralf Dreibrodt
Paul Hampson wrote: You can effectively chroot php files with: php_admin_value open_basedir /directory/where/files/are in the Apache virtual host config. Then: a) php4 won't let files outside that directory be accessed; No: - Hard links - Commands executed with system can access files

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): you might be thinking of Arla, which is a completely independent opensource afs client. http://www.stacken.kth.se/projekt/arla/ Nope. Last I heard, Arla was going nowhere, on account of lost mindshare when IBM/Transrc put OpenAFS under the IBM PL. Has that

Re: kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread Martynas Domarkas
Yes, but no programmer may access production servers :-) M. Tr, 2003-03-19 18:26, Phillip Hofmeister ra: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 at 05:18:05PM +0200, Martynas Domarkas wrote: Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? But if you are running a

iptables help to forward ports please

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
been trying to get the following to work for sometime input is most appreciated internet =25= firewall iptablerule =port#x= internalSMTPhost how can the firewall be told to: take all incoming tcp port 25 traffic and send it to smtp host on port X take all outgoing

Ptrace patch for 2.4.x BREAKS kill() 2 interesting effects for .pidand dot locking? (was Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25)

2003-03-19 Thread Matthew Grant
Hi There! Sorry about making a racket, but I am posting this for the edification of all, as there is a work around without breaking your server for this one. As you can read below, I have found that the patch on 2.4.x also BREAKS kill() 2 when executed for signal 0 on a process ID that the user

Re: Ptrace patch for 2.4.x BREAKS kill() 2 interesting effects for.pid and dot locking? (was Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25)

2003-03-19 Thread Matthew Grant
I am eating my own shorts here kill() 2 does actually behave the way it is supposed to. BUT these are correct: - Debian netsaint does definitely have problems with its Web frond end NOT being able to some see the netsaint process running as netsaint user from the Web server running as

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Domainbox, Tim Abenath
Apparently Apache2 has a module to do user per virtual host... Hmm. :-) If it does group per virtual host, I might look at upgrading... Jep, the perchild MPM. http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/perchild.html I tried that one, but the child-processes directly died. As it says, work is ongoing

Re: ptrace vulnerability?

2003-03-19 Thread Dariush Pietrzak
His announcement is Slashdotted, and I'm seeing no notice of which versions are affected! I'm running 2.4.18 on all my Debian servers, please tell me what's going on. same here...:( Why most this patch does is change kernel_thread into arch_kernel_thread? only usefull thing I see is

Re: Current OpenSSL vulnerability (CAN-2003-0147)

2003-03-19 Thread leppo
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2003 00:15 schrieb Timm Gleason: I have not seen any mention of this on this list. Is the current version (0.9.6c-2.woody.2) vulnerable to this current RSA issue? I've mentioned that one yesterday, too. This raised no reaction, probably because the subject Fwd: [ADVISORY]

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Tarjei Huse
Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). Substituting LDAP-SSL for NIS is arguably a step forward, but then NFS remains a problem (No Friggin' Security). Doesn't NFS v4 answer some of these problems? Does

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org seph

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software was available in open source. A quick

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Hampson
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:15:15AM +0100, debian-isp wrote: I am just asking myself how to secure our webserver with a couple of virtual hosts. Currently we have a large installation of typo3 running. It has a feature called fileadmin with which you can easily upload files. As it is

Re: Apache Virtual Hosts Chroot ?

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:35:53PM +0100, Ralf Dreibrodt wrote: Paul Hampson wrote: You can effectively chroot php files with: php_admin_value open_basedir /directory/where/files/are in the Apache virtual host config. Then: a) php4 won't let files outside that directory be accessed;

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Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:09:51AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm.

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Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread David Ehle
As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. David. On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Thiemo Nagel
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? IIRC CODA has the limitation of needing 4% of volume size in RAM. And performance is very bad (IIRC like 150 kbytes/sec max on pentium 400). On a second thought: This was in a fully redundant setup - probably it has better performance in other

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. No, CODA is not simply an AFS implementation. It is based on

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Coda is another CMU SCS project (as was AFS, which btw stands

Re: kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 at 05:18:05PM +0200, Martynas Domarkas wrote: Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? But if you are running a development system this pretty much breaks GDB (the way I understand it). -- Phil PGP/GPG Key:

Re: ptrace vulnerability?

2003-03-19 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 08:04, Giacomo Mulas wrote: Alan Cox apparently just made public a vulnerability in the stock kernel which would permit a local user to gain root privileges (see e.g. Linux Today, LWN, the LK mailing list...). Is a patched source package in the making already or

is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Jones
I am planning to replace a (dead) Windows 2000 computer that was used as a web server and email server with a Debian Linux solution. This machine is connected to the net via DSL and would run apache and exim/qpopper and sshd. Everything else would be turned off. It is a small church and

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Ian Garrison
Imo iptables is a reasonably good stateful firewall and is fine in most cases. However, a very wise person once said that the ideal setup is to layer more than one implementation of packet filter and firewall between the wild and a host/network you wish to protect. Ideally implementations on

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:45:48PM +0100, Janus N. T?ndering wrote: This should be more than enough. I have been running a mailserver on a Pentium 133MHz 96 RAM + SCSI for a few years. It can handle quite a lot mail --- never had a problem. Hah! Is nothing! I run a cablemodem firewall,

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Stefan Neufeind
What I find astonishing: Let's say you are running a webserver, maybe mailserver and a DNS on a server. What rules do you want to apply to the packets etc.? I would suggest to keep the open ports restricted, check for all current updates regularly (subscribe to several mailinglists etc.) and

Re: is iptables enough?

2003-03-19 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 22:58, Rick Moen wrote: You could do that with Linux Router Project floppy images -- but booting from floppy is really cramped. Through some miracle of economising on space, they finally migrated to libc6 and kernel 2.2.x, but God only knows how. Hehe... Using a

Re: kernel ptrace bug

2003-03-19 Thread xbud
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:18, Martynas Domarkas wrote: Grsecurity patch can limit ordinary user use ptrace. Can it help avoid ptrace exploit? Martynas yes for the most part limiting access to /proc/self/exe breaks the exploit.

Re: Ptrace patch for 2.4.x BREAKS kill() 2 interesting effects for .pid and dot locking? (was Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25)

2003-03-19 Thread Matthew Grant
I am eating my own shorts here kill() 2 does actually behave the way it is supposed to. BUT these are correct: - Debian netsaint does definitely have problems with its Web frond end NOT being able to some see the netsaint process running as netsaint user from the Web server running as

Re: Ptrace patch for 2.4.x BREAKS kill() 2 interesting effects for .pid and dot locking? (was Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25)

2003-03-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 22:43, Matthew Grant wrote: I have been just digging harder, and the vulnerability is only exploitable if you are using the kernel auto module loader, so compile Not the case in some situations Could I please say this to the kernel developers, please fix it properly! I

iptables help to forward ports please

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
been trying to get the following to work for sometime input is most appreciated internet =25= firewall iptablerule =port#x= internalSMTPhost how can the firewall be told to: take all incoming tcp port 25 traffic and send it to smtp host on port X take all outgoing