Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 02:00:48PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:07AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 07:52:26PM -0700, Tim Uckun wrote: > > > You really can not blame people for not hiring > > > "expensive unix

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
unning the next time they reboot. well people need to learn. you can't treat computers like toasters anymore. deal with it. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
gain after all of these years i think ill bring up another timeless quote: "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 02:00:48PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:07AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 07:52:26PM -0700, Tim Uckun wrote: > > > You really can not blame people for not hiring > > > "expensive unix

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
uch a mess security wise on the internet today. that is sort of like saying `you really cannot blame people for not hiring "expensive archetectural engineers" and letting some semi competant carpenter design your 10 story office building' -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenso

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Ethan Benson
uch a mess security wise on the internet today. that is sort of like saying `you really cannot blame people for not hiring "expensive archetectural engineers" and letting some semi competant carpenter design your 10 story office building' -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-20 Thread Ethan Benson
er day, no doubt looking for vulnerable rpc.statd. incompetant `morons with root password' (i won't call them sysadmins) who won't install security updates are really the worse problem. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpDDr9QPRj2q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-20 Thread Ethan Benson
er day, no doubt looking for vulnerable rpc.statd. incompetant `morons with root password' (i won't call them sysadmins) who won't install security updates are really the worse problem. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the > > anchient crappy crypt before.. > > > > now there just needs

Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the > > anchient crappy crypt before.. > > > > now there just needs

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Ethan Benson
he machine anyway. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdf5hwLFoNd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Ethan Benson
he machine anyway. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-13 Thread Ethan Benson
g these questions try reading the sudo and sudoers man pages. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp9Iv49kXrHf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-13 Thread Ethan Benson
g these questions try reading the sudo and sudoers man pages. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-12 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:40:41AM +0200, Tamas TEVESZ wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > ln -s / /place/chown/is/allowed/foo > > sudo chown /place/chown/is/allowed/foo/etc/passwd > > it doesn't follow symlinks define `it' --

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-12 Thread Ethan Benson
in that would solve it entirely though, how are you restricting them to only chown files in a certain directory? does that rule allow chown in subdirectories of that directory? if so consider: ln -s / /place/chown/is/allowed/foo sudo chown /place/chown/is/allowed/foo/etc/passwd -- E

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-12 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:40:41AM +0200, Tamas TEVESZ wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > ln -s / /place/chown/is/allowed/foo > > sudo chown /place/chown/is/allowed/foo/etc/passwd > > it doesn't follow symlinks define `it' --

Re: Sudo and Chown?

2001-07-12 Thread Ethan Benson
certain that would solve it entirely though, how are you restricting them to only chown files in a certain directory? does that rule allow chown in subdirectories of that directory? if so consider: ln -s / /place/chown/is/allowed/foo sudo chown /place/chown/is/allowed/foo/etc/passwd -- Ethan Be

Re: was I cracked? (rpc.statd, new version)

2001-07-11 Thread Ethan Benson
usually crashes before logging anything anyway. if your not using nfs you should remove the nfs-common package anyway. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpCJwzA8DzIc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: was I cracked? (rpc.statd, new version)

2001-07-11 Thread Ethan Benson
nd that statd usually crashes before logging anything anyway. if your not using nfs you should remove the nfs-common package anyway. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-10 Thread Ethan Benson
pted passwords. > == nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the anchient crappy crypt before.. now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpNQ1kIobzyQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-10 Thread Ethan Benson
pted passwords. > == nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the anchient crappy crypt before.. now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-10 Thread Ethan Benson
to perform a thorough audit (especially when you find the case broken and cut open...). compare this to your envolope idea where the machine need not even be shutdown and tell me which is more likely to go by unnoticed. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpzrTKKDWLMY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-10 Thread Ethan Benson
cause you to perform a thorough audit (especially when you find the case broken and cut open...). compare this to your envolope idea where the machine need not even be shutdown and tell me which is more likely to go by unnoticed. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-09 Thread Ethan Benson
d use the password. When you were done, you'd > change the password, write it down on a new piece of paper, and seal > in in an evelope. nice way to root a box without being detected, just bring along a new envelope and nobody will be the wiser. -- Ethan Benson http://www.a

Re: shared root account

2001-07-09 Thread Ethan Benson
e and use the password. When you were done, you'd > change the password, write it down on a new piece of paper, and seal > in in an evelope. nice way to root a box without being detected, just bring along a new envelope and nobody will be the wiser. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:31:56AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 01:56:56AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > which may not work if you always type the > > full path to /bin/su anyway. > > Hoping he doesn't: > > alias /bin/su='/var/tmp/hax

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
us and kept techs in > the box where they did the least damage. well thats different, if you write a well audited and secure script for adding users then those allowed to run that won't necessarily be root, still trusted to be sure, but not root. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alask

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
to compromise sooner or later. > Ethan> sudo is a very large cannon which is difficult to keep aimed > Ethan> away from the foot... > > That it is. But then, the root password is basically a very large > cannon built into your shoe. i would not go that far. -- Ethan Ben

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
mpromise before you su to root yourself, in which case you have saved yourself a root compromise. i have known people who have had root cracked due entirely to sudo. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpI9jkiG2H5X.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
work a criteria for employment would be that no manager, sales guy, or other morons would be permitted access to root for ANY REASON, period, end of story. as for sudo for my own purposes i don't see the point, i don't want my normal account to be a root account nor do i want my user

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:31:56AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 01:56:56AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > which may not work if you always type the > > full path to /bin/su anyway. > > Hoping he doesn't: > > alias /bin/su='/var/tmp/

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
us and kept techs in > the box where they did the least damage. well thats different, if you write a well audited and secure script for adding users then those allowed to run that won't necessarily be root, still trusted to be sure, but not root. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
to compromise sooner or later. > Ethan> sudo is a very large cannon which is difficult to keep aimed > Ethan> away from the foot... > > That it is. But then, the root password is basically a very large > cannon built into your shoe. i would not go that far. -- Ethan Ben

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
mpromise before you su to root yourself, in which case you have saved yourself a root compromise. i have known people who have had root cracked due entirely to sudo. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-07 Thread Ethan Benson
min work a criteria for employment would be that no manager, sales guy, or other morons would be permitted access to root for ANY REASON, period, end of story. as for sudo for my own purposes i don't see the point, i don't want my normal account to be a root account nor do i want my user

Re: shared root account

2001-07-06 Thread Ethan Benson
#x27; sudo is a very large cannon which is difficult to keep aimed away from the foot... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpZgdNZaFtrL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-06 Thread Ethan Benson
#x27; sudo is a very large cannon which is difficult to keep aimed away from the foot... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-06 Thread Ethan Benson
unprivleged user password into another root password. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpvZtKZdIlLD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: shared root account

2001-07-06 Thread Ethan Benson
unprivleged user password into another root password. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

w3m on security.debian.org broken

2001-07-04 Thread Ethan Benson
powerpc.deb Filename: dists/potato/main/binary-powerpc/text/w3m_0.1.6-4.deb -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHUoS6jMHY6.pgp Description: PGP signature

w3m on security.debian.org broken

2001-07-04 Thread Ethan Benson
powerpc.deb Filename: dists/potato/main/binary-powerpc/text/w3m_0.1.6-4.deb -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: auth.log

2001-06-20 Thread Ethan Benson
lscript and uses nobody to switch to the configured uid. (so protected directories are not listed in the locatedb). i think it should use start-stop-daemon --chuid instead so there is no log entry like this and we don't get these messages on the list every 2 days. -- Ethan Benson

Re: auth.log

2001-06-20 Thread Ethan Benson
lscript and uses nobody to switch to the configured uid. (so protected directories are not listed in the locatedb). i think it should use start-stop-daemon --chuid instead so there is no log entry like this and we don't get these messages on the list every 2 days. -- Ethan Benson

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:02:47AM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> echo 'eb::0:0:Ethan Benson:/home/eb:/bin/bash' > /etc/passwd.d/eb > > Ethan> login whe r00t

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:02:47AM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> echo 'eb::0:0:Ethan Benson:/home/eb:/bin/bash' > /etc/passwd.d/eb > > Ethan> login whe r00t

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:35:51PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> passwd not being able to update /etc/shadow would be a very bad > Ethan> thing since users would be unable to chan

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:13:36PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> yup, but only if it stops depending on pgp. (right now it > Ethan> depends on gnupg|pgp|pgp5) > > I could be

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:35:51PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> passwd not being able to update /etc/shadow would be a very bad > Ethan> thing since users would be unable to chan

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:13:36PM -0600, Hubert Chan wrote: > >>>>> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ethan> yup, but only if it stops depending on pgp. (right now it > Ethan> depends on gnupg|pgp|pgp5) > >

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
nupg fix ... > > Perhaps I'm confused. Please tell me what sources.list line I should > use to get proposed updates. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ note that trailing / is MANDATORY! -- E

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:40:42AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > it belongs in non-US/main since that is where gnupg lives. but since > > its not there its not part of debian. also for it to go into > >

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:09:51AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > At 2:17 Uhr +0200 19.6.2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > >what if the attacker can poisen your DNS, or routing tables? then he > >can trick apt into downloading his 37337 `security update' (more like > >unsec

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
they are still working on fork bomb protection. that would > be nice :) ulimit -u 20 thats all it takes. BTW your Mail-Followup-To header is broken. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpbS908ypmdf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
) to the 1.0.x tree anyway. probably also because gnupg is very complex and backporting could cause more trouble then it solves. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdQdHbSep6M.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
ain since that is where gnupg lives. but since its not there its not part of debian. also for it to go into non-US/main it must remove its dependency on non-free pgp, and exclusivly depend on gnupg. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpzxtJ7QeztM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
nupg fix ... > > Perhaps I'm confused. Please tell me what sources.list line I should > use to get proposed updates. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ note that trailing / is MANDATORY! -- Ethan Be

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:40:42AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > it belongs in non-US/main since that is where gnupg lives. but since > > its not there its not part of debian. also for it to go into > >

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:09:51AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > At 2:17 Uhr +0200 19.6.2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > >what if the attacker can poisen your DNS, or routing tables? then he > >can trick apt into downloading his 37337 `security update' (more like > >unsec

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
they are still working on fork bomb protection. that would > be nice :) ulimit -u 20 thats all it takes. BTW your Mail-Followup-To header is broken. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
) to the 1.0.x tree anyway. probably also because gnupg is very complex and backporting could cause more trouble then it solves. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
ain since that is where gnupg lives. but since its not there its not part of debian. also for it to go into non-US/main it must remove its dependency on non-free pgp, and exclusivly depend on gnupg. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
those > pesky other sections on the servers, in the bug system, and so forth. it is policy, just because they are on debian servers does not make them part of the debian distribution. non-free and contrib are NOT parts of debian. this is really fairly well known... -- Ethan Benson http://w

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
-free are part of debian. if gnupg broke deps on a another package in main i think you would have a point, but it broke something outside the distribution which is beyond the concerns of the security team, they only need to care about the distribution which is main and non-US/main. --

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
heard of an > exploit involving any of them. play a spoofing trick to attach the victims chargen port to its echo port. i don't know if that is still possible, in the olden days it was, had quite ammusing result too. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgphaIXBvdnPp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
Sebastiaan's. only if you insist on remaining ignorant. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpakFannjKd9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
probably all is lost... lids can, it adds new capabilities or else modifies one of the existing ones. (at least last i read the FAQ that seemed to be implyed). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp8Gm6ZuB6OS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
those > pesky other sections on the servers, in the bug system, and so forth. it is policy, just because they are on debian servers does not make them part of the debian distribution. non-free and contrib are NOT parts of debian. this is really fairly well known... -- Ethan Benson http://w

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
-free are part of debian. if gnupg broke deps on a another package in main i think you would have a point, but it broke something outside the distribution which is beyond the concerns of the security team, they only need to care about the distribution which is main and non-US/main. --

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
heard of an > exploit involving any of them. play a spoofing trick to attach the victims chargen port to its echo port. i don't know if that is still possible, in the olden days it was, had quite ammusing result too. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
Sebastiaan's. only if you insist on remaining ignorant. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
probably all is lost... lids can, it adds new capabilities or else modifies one of the existing ones. (at least last i read the FAQ that seemed to be implyed). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:43:41PM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:35:13AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > chattr +i and +a cannot be set or removed if CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is > > removed from the bounding set. however that does not prevent root >

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:43:41PM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:35:13AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > chattr +i and +a cannot be set or removed if CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is > > removed from the bounding set. however that does not prevent root >

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
rts, I still want to use ftp, smtp and telnet only for my local network. if you don't know why your running them you don't need them. simple as that. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp5Z9Fm0eHOU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
en and such. i don't think ive ever found anyone who actually did need all of those. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpEVAZUCzbSk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
s to put the new mailcrypt into security.debian.org. gnupg is installable, if you remove mailcrypt. ;-) not ideal but thats the way the way the cookie crumbles. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpz9tXjQfqnp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
such). iirc the 2.0 linux kernel had a securelevel which was about equivilent to BSD securelevels. 2.2 removed it since `capabilities make securelevel obsolete' well not quite heh. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHHDqyI50Su.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:56:03AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:42:17PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > you would need to fix filesystem immutability and block device access > > as well. currently lcap CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is useless since ther

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
veniently getting the statd port number, that doesn't stop them from finding it via nmap. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp53lHokZtT1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
tacker can just replace your kernel image and reboot (which is of course fairly noticable). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpvJEbYjdjjQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
rts, I still want to use ftp, smtp and telnet only for my local network. if you don't know why your running them you don't need them. simple as that. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: rlinetd security

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
en and such. i don't think ive ever found anyone who actually did need all of those. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: gnupg problem

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
s to put the new mailcrypt into security.debian.org. gnupg is installable, if you remove mailcrypt. ;-) not ideal but thats the way the way the cookie crumbles. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
and such). iirc the 2.0 linux kernel had a securelevel which was about equivilent to BSD securelevels. 2.2 removed it since `capabilities make securelevel obsolete' well not quite heh. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 08:56:03AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:42:17PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > you would need to fix filesystem immutability and block device access > > as well. currently lcap CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is useless since ther

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
veniently getting the statd port number, that doesn't stop them from finding it via nmap. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
tacker can just replace your kernel image and reboot (which is of course fairly noticable). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
ou have the nfs security updates installed since the exploit failed. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpZ30biU24im.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:27:37AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE > > > Fwiw, I have heard (th

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
the holes the attacker needs to trojan your system and to remove the additional obsticales you installed. system adminsitrator == root cracker == root you can't trust one without trusting the other. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdRJiJHkVy6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are these breakin attempts?

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
you have the nfs security updates installed since the exploit failed. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:27:37AM +, Jim Breton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 02:44:48AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > compiling without module support would be mostly the same as just > > > > lcap CAP_SYS_MODULE > > > Fwiw, I have heard (th

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
the holes the attacker needs to trojan your system and to remove the additional obsticales you installed. system adminsitrator == root cracker == root you can't trust one without trusting the other. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
t cannot > happen in the first place, a whole generation of exploits is eliminated at > once. in this case you must make very large sacrifices to accomplish this. including giving up kernel modules and X11. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpVxvBhtF5Jq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
t cannot > happen in the first place, a whole generation of exploits is eliminated at > once. in this case you must make very large sacrifices to accomplish this. including giving up kernel modules and X11. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
suggest installing all security updates immediatly when they arrive and vigilent sysadmin. those will keep your box uncompromised better then anything (except turning it off). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpXdAtbKcUlQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
ing. i suggest installing all security updates immediatly when they arrive and vigilent sysadmin. those will keep your box uncompromised better then anything (except turning it off). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-16 Thread Ethan Benson
h you could also add CAP_SYS_BOOT to that list, then if they reboot init will kill everything and the box will halt when the last initscript calls /sbin/reboot ;-) (annoying if you like remote administration, you have to hit the reset button after issuing shutdown -r now...) -- Ethan Benson http://www.

Re: A question about Knark and modules

2001-06-16 Thread Ethan Benson
h you could also add CAP_SYS_BOOT to that list, then if they reboot init will kill everything and the box will halt when the last initscript calls /sbin/reboot ;-) (annoying if you like remote administration, you have to hit the reset button after issuing shutdown -r now...) -- Ethan Benson http://www.

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