Re: MS BS

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Thomas Horsten disse: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. Mine too, i needed to move all my e-mails to a new account (this) 'cause i couldn't hand the flood }:-O And as i use

Re: MS BS

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Thomas Horsten disse: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. Mine too, i needed to move all my e-mails to a new account (this) 'cause i couldn't hand the flood }:-O And as i use web

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 02:14 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without > > having to fear it's a false positive, > umm... what makes you think so? Okay, it's not absolutely safe, but for

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 02:14 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without > > having to fear it's a false positive, > umm... what makes you think so? Okay, it's not absolutely safe, but for

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Michael Sullenszino
Don't underestimate clamav. Sure it does not have 75,000 virii in it's database, but it catches well over 98% of the viruses that cross my little ISP. (I run both NOD32 and ClamAV with MailScanner so I see all the ones that NOD gets and ClamAV does not, which is _very_ few). Plus the ClamAV commu

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Michael Sullenszino
Don't underestimate clamav. Sure it does not have 75,000 virii in it's database, but it catches well over 98% of the viruses that cross my little ISP. (I run both NOD32 and ClamAV with MailScanner so I see all the ones that NOD gets and ClamAV does not, which is _very_ few). Plus the ClamAV commu

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 1:54:42 +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > > Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the > open virus database [1] is still too small... but for _sorting_ mail, clamav > (it's in sid) is really good. It gives you [...] > [1] http://www.openant

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without having > to fear it's a false positive, umm... what makes you think so? Besides the typical case, that one wants to send a virus file (there are researches out there, you know) the

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 1:54:42 +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > > Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the > open virus database [1] is still too small... but for _sorting_ mail, clamav > (it's in sid) is really good. It gives you [...] > [1] http://www.openant

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without having > to fear it's a false positive, umm... what makes you think so? Besides the typical case, that one wants to send a virus file (there are researches out there, you know) the

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 at 08:43:46 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > > ClamAV is supported in Debian and it's very well integrated with > > amavisd-new (which, in turn, can be used also with spamassassin). > Yes, but where can I find clamav for woody? > Sid's package depends on whole lot of sid stuff,

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 at 08:43:46 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > > ClamAV is supported in Debian and it's very well integrated with > > amavisd-new (which, in turn, can be used also with spamassassin). > Yes, but where can I find clamav for woody? > Sid's package depends on whole lot of sid stuff,

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Dariush Pietrzak
> ClamAV is supported in Debian and it's very well integrated with > amavisd-new (which, in turn, can be used also with spamassassin). Yes, but where can I find clamav for woody? Sid's package depends on whole lot of sid stuff, so recompiling it on woody requires significant effort. Data from apt-

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-25 Thread Dariush Pietrzak
> ClamAV is supported in Debian and it's very well integrated with > amavisd-new (which, in turn, can be used also with spamassassin). Yes, but where can I find clamav for woody? Sid's package depends on whole lot of sid stuff, so recompiling it on woody requires significant effort. Data from apt-

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I am looking for a same solution. However, I am getting 40 to 70 of such > mails within 2 hours. There should be a possibility with > exim-4.1, but > nothing for exim-3.X i am using clamscan with exiscan on exim-3 and it works well, beside the fact that

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:14:43PM +0100, Thomas Horsten wrote: guess they are out there. Anyway, if you are truly security conscious you should consider switching to qmail in any case. Not. Postfix is just as good, but without an obnoxious license. Mike Stone

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Thomas Horsten
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of > these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer > it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead.

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I am looking for a same solution. However, I am getting 40 to 70 of such > mails within 2 hours. There should be a possibility with > exim-4.1, but > nothing for exim-3.X i am using clamscan with exiscan on exim-3 and it works well, beside the fact that

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:14:43PM +0100, Thomas Horsten wrote: guess they are out there. Anyway, if you are truly security conscious you should consider switching to qmail in any case. Not. Postfix is just as good, but without an obnoxious license. Mike Stone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: MS BS

2003-09-24 Thread Thomas Horsten
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of > these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer > it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead.

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Tomasz Papszun
[ I'm resending it because yesterday try didn't appear on the list. Thomas Ritter has already answered to the copy which I sent directly to him. ] On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 1:54:42 +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > > Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the > open

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Tomasz Papszun
[ I'm resending it because yesterday try didn't appear on the list. Thomas Ritter has already answered to the copy which I sent directly to him. ] On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 1:54:42 +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > > Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the > open

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:54:42AM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without having > to fear it's a false positive, against which a mail found to be Spam by > Spamassassin may be a real mail. This is not true. There's always the possi

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 03:23:35PM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > Yes, I don't know the name, but there's a reference standard virus list. I think you're talking about the Wildlist (www.wildlist.org). That's not a reference list, but simply a list of viruses reported as "currently active" by at le

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 02:34 schrieb Tomasz Papszun: > Sorry but I must say that this is an incorrect claim. okay, not exclusively > Currently ClamAV's own database is quite big and is updated even a > couple of times a day if needed. It's quite good at new viruses caught > "in the wild"

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:54:42AM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > And... a mail with a positive virus recognition can be deleted without having > to fear it's a false positive, against which a mail found to be Spam by > Spamassassin may be a real mail. This is not true. There's always the possi

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 03:23:35PM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > Yes, I don't know the name, but there's a reference standard virus list. I think you're talking about the Wildlist (www.wildlist.org). That's not a reference list, but simply a list of viruses reported as "currently active" by at le

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-24 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 02:34 schrieb Tomasz Papszun: > Sorry but I must say that this is an incorrect claim. okay, not exclusively > Currently ClamAV's own database is quite big and is updated even a > couple of times a day if needed. It's quite good at new viruses caught > "in the wild"

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 23:48 schrieb Joel HATSCH: > > > of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > > > The single part MIME filter doesn't seem to catch it though. What Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the open virus database [1] is still to

Re: MS BS

2003-09-23 Thread Joel HATSCH
> > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 > > of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would > > prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level > > instead. I am running Nigel Metheri

Re: MS BS + Sorting out the virii

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 23:48 schrieb Joel HATSCH: > > > of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > > > The single part MIME filter doesn't seem to catch it though. What Just a note: Open Antivirus programs like clamav are not perfect, because the open virus database [1] is still to

Re: MS BS

2003-09-23 Thread Joel HATSCH
> > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 > > of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would > > prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level > > instead. I am running Nigel Metheri

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Ted Roby
On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 16:22 US/Pacific, Josh Carroll wrote: One solution is to use spamassassin, and in your ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, do the following: Actually, I wish to stop the entire procedure at the SMTP level. However, I have found my answer. I had to increase message_body_v

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Ted Roby
On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 16:22 US/Pacific, Josh Carroll wrote: One solution is to use spamassassin, and in your ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, do the following: Actually, I wish to stop the entire procedure at the SMTP level. However, I have found my answer. I had to increase message_body_visible

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Josh Carroll
One solution is to use spamassassin, and in your ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, do the following: score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 6 Or whatever number you need to get over the default threshold. Effectively any mail with an identified .exe attachment would gain a bonus of +6 in spamassasin (in my case I

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Josh Carroll
One solution is to use spamassassin, and in your ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, do the following: score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 6 Or whatever number you need to get over the default threshold. Effectively any mail with an identified .exe attachment would gain a bonus of +6 in spamassasin (in my case I

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Eckhard Hoeffner
* Ted Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [22 09 03 20:56]: >My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of >these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. >My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer >it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Marc F. Neininger
Am Mon, 2003-09-22 um 20.56 schrieb Ted Roby: Hi Ted, > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of > these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer > it if my Exim filter would do the job at the ser

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Bob Snyder
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:56:04AM -0700, Ted Roby wrote: > The single part MIME filter doesn't seem to catch it though. What are > others on this list using or doing to blatently block this stuff? There > is no valid .exe I could receive, ever. I use postfix and this in my body_checks map (rea

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Rich Puhek
Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead. I am running Nigel Meth

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Eckhard Hoeffner
* Ted Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [22 09 03 20:56]: >My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of >these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. >My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer >it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Marc F. Neininger
Am Mon, 2003-09-22 um 20.56 schrieb Ted Roby: Hi Ted, > My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of > these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. > My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer > it if my Exim filter would do the job at the ser

MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Ted Roby
My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead. I am running Nigel Metheringham's system_fi

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Bob Snyder
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:56:04AM -0700, Ted Roby wrote: > The single part MIME filter doesn't seem to catch it though. What are > others on this list using or doing to blatently block this stuff? There > is no valid .exe I could receive, ever. I use postfix and this in my body_checks map (rea

Re: MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Rich Puhek
Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead. I am running Nigel Methe

MS BS

2003-09-22 Thread Ted Roby
My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. My filters on my client dump them to a Junk folder, but I would prefer it if my Exim filter would do the job at the server level instead. I am running Nigel Metheringham's system_fi