Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-26 Thread Mike Fisk
You solution just optimizes doing a dist-upgrade. I'd like something that doesn't require that I do a dist-upgrade so often. By time-consuming, I didn't particularly mean the amount of time it takes to download. That can clearly be done in the backround, by cron, etc. Going through the configuat

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-26 Thread Mike Fisk
You solution just optimizes doing a dist-upgrade. I'd like something that doesn't require that I do a dist-upgrade so often. By time-consuming, I didn't particularly mean the amount of time it takes to download. That can clearly be done in the backround, by cron, etc. Going through the configua

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: > There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable > packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either > have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages > yourself or do a fu

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: > There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable > packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either > have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages > yourself or do a f

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
a regular 'apt-get install > > > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > > > conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. > > Seems like a great idea to me. > > If the BTS had a "security" tag, then this c

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
a regular 'apt-get install > > > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > > > conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. > > Seems like a great idea to me. > > If the BTS had a "security" tag, then this c

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > > burden they should not run unstable. > > To me this sounds like: > > Every single unst

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > The answer is just to watch one single list - debian-security-announce. > > That's what it's for :) > > I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. If the answer is to > watch the debian-security-announce list, then what preven

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > task-unstable-security-updates'

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-11-19 Mike Fisk wrote: [big snip] > Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a > pseudo-package? Something very close to this kind of task package has been discussed recently on debian-devel and we come to the conclusion that it won't be helpful or easy to maint

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > > burden they should not run unstable. > > To me this sounds like: > > Every single uns

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > The answer is just to watch one single list - debian-security-announce. > > That's what it's for :) > > I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. If the answer is to > watch the debian-security-announce list, then what preve

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > task-unstable-security-updates'

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-11-19 Mike Fisk wrote: [big snip] > Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a > pseudo-package? Something very close to this kind of task package has been discussed recently on debian-devel and we come to the conclusion that it won't be helpful or easy to main

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
hat have been fixed in a > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. > > Is that possible? Would the security

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
hat have been fixed in a > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. > > Is that possible? Would the security

task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Fisk
dated in unstable, that can be prohibitibely bandwidth and time-consuming. It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install tas

task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Fisk
dated in unstable, that can be prohibitibely bandwidth and time-consuming. It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install tas