Re: Python & chess

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> but it could be grat for chess interfaces, for drawing boards, >> and similar things. > > Then I fail to see the problem unless he is unaware that Python > can call a C compiled lib and for computationally in

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Friday 25 August 2006 00:25, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:55, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in >>> Florida in 2000 >>> Don

Re: PostgreSQL 8 debs on Debian 3.1r2

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Shapiro
Alexander Farber wrote: thank you - as a Debian-newbie I wasn't aware of that repository. Unfortunately the doc there is sparse and I still have problems: I've enhanced my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debia

Re: Python & chess

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > but it could be grat for chess interfaces, for drawing boards, > and similar things. Then I fail to see the problem unless he is unaware that Python can call a C compiled lib and for computationally intensive tasks the author is encouraged to do just that. I fail

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > And what is the member status of those states again? Do they matter? Does > anybody on the UN give them more than token attention? NO! Why? Because > the UN realizes they're as nutty as they really are, too! However, the UN > does allow everybody to have their say. I

Makefile question -- one comoand makes two files.

2006-08-24 Thread hendrik
Let's say that the comoand chop onion makes two files, tears and pieces How do I describe this in a Makefile? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > That paragraph contradicts itself because the second sentence assumes third > parties don't exist, whereas in the EC, it doesn't matter how many votes > third parties get, the EC won't vote for them. They haven't voted for a > third party since last time we had a Whig pres

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > The impression of impropriety in politics is as bad as impropriety itself. > I'm not going to go into detail, since if you weren't following the news for > the last six years, going over it again won't help you. Oddly enough, Paul, I have followed the news. I have fol

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 25 August 2006 00:25, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in > > Florida in 2000 > > Don't be stupid. The Florida problem was that little old > > ladies

Re: Thread-aware MUAs

2006-08-24 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 24 August 2006 22:38, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 02:29, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 21:16, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > > >>> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Danie

Re: Asus sucks (Re: sata sucks)

2006-08-24 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 02:36:23PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-08-15 20:26:30, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Do you happen to know how screwed you are if the power fails during the > > BIOS update? Or is the BIOS update governed by another nonupdatable BIOS? > > Asus use Crash-Free

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 charles norwood wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 20:13 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:D >>> Gak! We agree!! >> We usually do, though this summer you seem to have gone temporarily insane. >> > Any chance the list is dealing with one schizophrenic? No. He li

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in Florida in > 2000 > Don't be stupid. The Florida problem was that little old ladies could not figur

Re: Odp: Re: just some thoughts

2006-08-24 Thread Matej Cepl
Paul Johnson wrote: >> IF games are good coded and static compiled they >> are working always and on any locations. > > So what's /usr/games? for games installed from .deb packages (/usr/ should be limited just to whatever was put there by dpkg). Matěj -- GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread charles norwood
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 20:13 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:D > > > > Gak! We agree!! > > We usually do, though this summer you seem to have gone temporarily insane. > Any chance the list is dealing with one schizophrenic? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-24 Thread s. keeling
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 2006-07-26 17:39:56, schrieb djhack: > > > > Balsa - Copies entire message at reply. I have tried the suggested "Ctrl > > Those are not MUA's but nightmares > > Try Mutt ;-) I'm a mutt user myself, but balsa's not bad if you insist on a GUI MUA.

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:57, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday 24 August 2006 05:06, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> With illegal immigration and with attempts to allow illegal > >> immigrants to vote, this trend may well be reversing. > > > > It may be, but as far as I am con

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 19:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in Florida in > >>> 2000 > > >> Don't be stupid. The Florida problem was that little old ladies > >> could not figure our how to use a paper ballot. > > > > Take your own advice: Don't

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 13:04, Chris Mattern wrote: > >> No. Paul has no idea what the hell he's talking about. Most electoral >> college members are bound by state law to vote for the presidential >> candidate they were ele

Re: problems after upgrade

2006-08-24 Thread s. keeling
[Top posted, because reply is a mess.] i) You're still posting in HTML. Please stop. See above. ii) Your network works. ping finds debian.org fine. iii) What's "emacs -nw somefile" say? iv) What was the result of "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? v) "dpkg-reconfigure xse

Re: rhythmbox won't open radio

2006-08-24 Thread Owen Heisler
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 22:35 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Rhythmbox (aka Music Player) won't open radio stations (Groove Salad, > Bluemars, or other stations from the internet). It tells me "couldn't > start playback (null)". Once in a blue moon, several minutes later, > it'll connect and sta

Re: Which package does hardware detection?

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 16:25, Kent West wrote: > I've installed "discover", but that hasn't helped. That's the old one. Try the "hal" package instead. :o) -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpWBSVjXRH2h.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 13:04, Chris Mattern wrote: > No. Paul has no idea what the hell he's talking about. Most electoral > college members are bound by state law to vote for the presidential > candidate they were elected to vote for. So "less than half" suddenly constitutes a majority? I

Re: remote access via ssh?

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 09:06, Ishwar Rattan wrote: > Remote system is debian derivative. When I access this system > using ssh, the connection does not execute $HOME/.bashrc > on remote system. I usually link .bashrc to .bash_profile or vice versa to avoid this problem. -- Paul Johnson Email

Re: Thread-aware MUAs

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 02:29, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 21:16, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: > Daniel Rose wrote: > [snip] > > > People who don't like o

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 14:29, Katipo wrote: > You're in the States, and therefore classified as American market source. > I'm in Australia, and it's all China and Korea here. > Very little from South America or EU. I used to get a *lot* from Korea, almost all of it from Kornet. I have to won

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 10:36, Nate Bargmann wrote: > A great number of the UN member states have an equally negative > view of such concepts as our Bill of Rights, government of the people, > by the people, for the people, and that all men are endowed by their > Creator with certain unalienabl

Re: dpkg --purge pkgs

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:48:44PM -0300, Iuri Sampaio wrote: > > > I try to uninstall the follow package running the command: > > > > desktop:~# dpkg --purge aolserver4 > > > > but I get this error message: > > > > desktop:~# dpkg --purge aolserver4 > > dpkg: dependency problems p

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 05:06, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> With illegal immigration and with attempts to allow illegal >> immigrants to vote, this trend may well be reversing. > > It may be, but as far as I am concerned they're

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 07:59, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 23:13, Mihira Fernando wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > Technically, yes. That's how the Constitution designed it. >>

dpkg --purge pkgs

2006-08-24 Thread Iuri Sampaio
  I try to uninstall the follow package running the command:   desktop:~# dpkg --purge aolserver4   but I get this error message:   desktop:~# dpkg --purge aolserver4 dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of aolserver4:  aolserver4-nsopenssl depends on aolserver4 (>= 4.0-1).

rhythmbox won't open radio

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Grieveson
Rhythmbox (aka Music Player) won't open radio stations (Groove Salad, Bluemars, or other stations from the internet). It tells me "couldn't start playback (null)". Once in a blue moon, several minutes later, it'll connect and start playing a station, without acknowledging that it's connected,

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 10:23, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Aug 23 23:00 -0500]: > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >Steve Lamb wrote: > > >>Nevermind that he was impeached for lying under oath in an > > >>investigation > > > > > >Er, sorry, "Faced Impea

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 05:06, Nate Bargmann wrote: > With illegal immigration and with attempts to allow illegal immigrants > to vote, this trend may well be reversing. It may be, but as far as I am concerned they're not people. They become people again around the time they go back to where

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 17:19, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in Florida in 2000 > > and by probable act of sabotage on Diebold's part in Ohio in 2004. > > Candidate B becomes president, people have no say. > > And where, ex

Re: Odp: Re: just some thoughts

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 06:01, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-07-25 08:03:34, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > > > That's what LSB is for. > > > > If it ony it were that simple :-) > > > > LSB *requires* RPM! Yuck! > > GAMES should be installed in /opt// or ~/bin// > > IF games are good coded a

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 07:59, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 23:13, Mihira Fernando wrote: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> Technically, yes. That's how the Constitution designed it. > >>> > >>> Practically, though, no. > >>> > >>> Citizens, dead people,

Re: Which package does hardware detection?

2006-08-24 Thread Kent West
Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:25:43PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > >> What's the proper Debian package nowadays for auto-detecting/setup of >> hardware? (I also tried udev, but it complains about needing a newer >> kernel; the kernel was not replaced in my tinkering as me

Re: Python & chess

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Paolo Pantaleo wrote: >> 2006/8/24, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> The 1st link in his email describes how when a python chess >>> player was (mechanically) converted to C++, the resulting app >>> ran 10x faster. > >> That's

Re: GTK Assertion

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 09:00:22AM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: > I use debian sid, when I start wxwindow application (boa-constructor) > the errror message is shown. Does anybody know the cause of it? > > > > ** (python:7498): CRITICAL **: get_label_from_notebook_page: assertion > `GTK_IS_W

GTK Assertion

2006-08-24 Thread Surachai Locharoen
I use debian sid, when I start wxwindow application (boa-constructor) the errror message is shown. Does anybody know the cause of it? ** (python:7498): CRITICAL **: get_label_from_notebook_page: assertion `GTK_IS_W IDGET (child)' failed ** (python:7498): CRITICAL **: get_label_from_notebook

Re: Rebuilding Corrupt Debian

2006-08-24 Thread John O'Hagan
On Friday 25 August 2006 02:59, Aaron Goodman wrote: [...] > > Any way to do this quickly and just reinstall the same packages I had > before? I have var, usr, home all on seperate partitions. If you are able to run #dpkg -l | awk '/ii/ {print $2}' > somefile in your existing system, which will

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > s/cold hard facts/rock-stupid morons/ and you would have a pretty good > summation of that thread. I quit because I got tired of the refusal for > others, like you, to see the bloody obvious. Just because you're sore you > pay more for less doesn't mean my logic is flawed

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Something similar to this happened due to pilot error in Florida in 2000 and > by probable act of sabotage on Diebold's part in Ohio in 2004. Candidate B > becomes president, people have no say. And where, exactly, is the proof? I mean the real proof, not Paul's made

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >>Yes, because Government has nothing better to do than fritter it's >> citizens money on something that probably nets them no gain. Sorry, that's a >> huge negative in my book. > That would seem to be somewhat inconsistent, coming from somebody that > suppos

Re: Which package does hardware detection?

2006-08-24 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:25:43PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > What's the proper Debian package nowadays for auto-detecting/setup of > hardware? (I also tried udev, but it complains about needing a newer > kernel; the kernel was not replaced in my tinkering as mentioned above.) How up-to-date i

Re: Python & chess

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > 2006/8/24, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The 1st link in his email describes how when a python chess player >> was (mechanically) converted to C++, the resulting app ran 10x faster. > That's it, compiled languages are fastar than interperted ones. This is true.

Re: Re: Install Etch from Sarge with debootstrap question

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Shapiro
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:34:59 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:37:33AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I am currently running Sarge and want to install Etch, using > debootstrap, so I can play around with it while I still have Sarge > to fall back on. I have set up and mo

Re: Asus sucks (Re: sata sucks)

2006-08-24 Thread Colin
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > So, in this same vein, does linux recognize events from a USB(i think) > connected UPS? I have some of my boxen on UPS with the monitors on > regular power to give me more uptime on them. THe idea is to recognize > that we've gone to UPS power and gracefully take the

Re: Which package does hardware detection?

2006-08-24 Thread Thierry Chatelet
Kent West wrote: I've had a, um, boo-boo with my Sid box today, and in trying to repair it did a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling. I've mostly got the box back together. However, hardware detection no longer works. Every time I reboot I have to modprobe my mouse, usb, nic, and sound devic

Which package does hardware detection?

2006-08-24 Thread Kent West
I've had a, um, boo-boo with my Sid box today, and in trying to repair it did a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling. I've mostly got the box back together. However, hardware detection no longer works. Every time I reboot I have to modprobe my mouse, usb, nic, and sound devices. I've install

Re: terminal true type fonts

2006-08-24 Thread cga2000
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 05:45:33AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: [..] > > In my opinion, Bitstream on Linux beats them all. Only Tahoma on Windows > (not shown) comes close for small font sizes. Verdana on Linux is quite > ok, too. But it is too wide (and screen space is precious on my > notebook) an

Re: preseeding debian installer over tftp

2006-08-24 Thread Joey Hess
Loke Berne wrote: > I just started to look in to netboot + preseeded settings for the > debian installer in order to automate installation of new servers > and from what I have found so far the preseed files can only be > served over http while I would like to serv them with tftp anyone >

Re: Apt-get upgrade: sendmail etc "kept back"

2006-08-24 Thread Account for Debian group mail
There is a bug report on this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384426 I suggest everyone not upgrade the sendmail till this is fixed. Ken On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Robert S wrote: > I have recently got the following output: > > # apt-get upgrade -s > Reading Package Lists...

RE : Re: [newbie]: own boot/root cd with grub : ide problem

2006-08-24 Thread Stephane Durieux
Andreas Rippl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:12:33PM +0200, Stephane Durieux wrote:>Hello,> >As a newbie (not really a developper) I want to make my own boot/root CD.>So I have made a custom kernel, an initrd to be loaded by the boot loader>and a root tree

Re: Python & chess

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > Well Python is not a good language for writing a chess engine (even if > a chess engine exists: > http://www.kolumbus.fi/jyrki.alakuijala/pychess.html), but it could be > grat for chess interfaces, for drawing boards, and similar things. I > foudn out a library for these th

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Katipo wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 03:22, Matt Johnson wrote: >> >>> - Original Message From: Paul Johnson >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: >>> Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32

Re: Program to draw chess boards

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > [Maybe a little offtopic] > > I need to draw some chess boards, starting let's say from the FEN > description of the board, in an automatic way (something like a > script, good for automating the drawing of many boards). Is there any > program that do that? I can't see any

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Steve Lamb wrote: >Paul Johnson wrote: > > >>That's not true. The UN has a similarly negative view of our electoral >>college. >> >> > >So? Any non-elected group which caters to terrorism, has been proven >corrupt time and again and is against free speech is a group I should care >abo

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Steve Lamb wrote: >Katipo wrote: > > >>Nothing, even remotely close to the volumes generated by Americans and >>their contracted bodies in Korea and China. >>They hire out entire ISPs for the purpose. >> >> > >Which would be China and Korea's problems respectively and does not excuse >Br

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Paul Johnson wrote: >On Wednesday 23 August 2006 03:22, Matt Johnson wrote: > > >>- Original Message >>From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >>Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32:52 AM >>Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden T

Re: this is plain weird - very slow access for non-microsoft browsers

2006-08-24 Thread kevin bailey
George Borisov wrote: > kevin bailey wrote: >> >> Everything works fine - except the browsers on the MAC and the Linux box >> are not getting some sites. > > It could be a DNS problem; I would start by comparing the DNS > server settings on all 3 machines. > > > Hope this helps, > I checke

Re: Music notation

2006-08-24 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 8/24/06, José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Does anyone know another open-source notation program that supports > advanced modern notation and will let me see the score while editing? > > Thanks. > -Chuckk > Have you looked at rosegarden (Saw this program a w

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Mattern
Paul Johnson wrote: ¹ For those not of US origin, the US has had an electoral college to decide it's soverign since it's inception, the popular vote for president is legally nonbinding in nearly all states: the electoral college can and does vote for whoever it wants. Out of a quarter billio

Re: uptimes > 50.0, dmesg says 'race' a lot...?

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 will trillich wrote: > Free pages:2716kB (0kB HighMem) > Active:60873 inactive:60733 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 free:679 > slab:4954 mapped:121541 pagetables:965 > DMA free:668kB min:20kB low:40kB high:60kB active:6028kB > inactive:5980kB p

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > Pet peeve: `dpkg -l foobar' may tell me that foobar doesn't exist, yet > `apt-get install foobar' will download and install it. Dpkg doesn't know anything about packages that have never been installed. > This is particularly annoying when you don't know the name of the >package,

Re: [solved] Debian & ATI Radeon X300 don't mix? (errata corrige)

2006-08-24 Thread Marco
Yu,Glen [Ontario] ha scritto: WOOT! It works! Thank you! Nothing... :-) Have a nice day! Bye Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PostgreSQL 8 debs on Debian 3.1r2

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:07:11PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Try running: > $ sudo apt-get -t sarge-backports update > $ sudo apt-get -t sarge-backports -u install postgresql > He just needs to use the correct package name. In this case, the package is called postgresql-8.1. Regards, -Rob

Re: Music notation

2006-08-24 Thread José Alburquerque
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: So Noteedit allows mouse control, but many advanced notation possibilities aren't supported; Lilypond supports all sorts of things, but I can't see my score and adjust positions of articulation symbols, etc, with the mouse. The noteedit mailing list suggested starting with

Re: how to tail w/o folding the output?

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> How do you run tail and not have it fold the output? > Since these apps treat the screen as a "glass teletype", that would > be a function of the console or xterm, not of tail. > As to how to modify the console, though... man con

Re: Apt-get upgrade: sendmail etc "kept back"

2006-08-24 Thread Account for Debian group mail
Alex, I do not subscribe to debian-security so could you pass on what it has to say? We have the same problem here as "Robert S" and our systems do not want to upgrade the sendmail-bin. Thanks, Ken On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Alexander Farber wrote: > There is a new mail about libsasl2 on debian-

Re: Install Etch from Sarge with debootstrap question

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:37:33AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I am currently running Sarge and want to install Etch, using > debootstrap, so I can play around with it while I still have Sarge to > fall back on. I have set up and mounted my filesystem under > /mnt/debinst, but when I run the f

Re: Asus sucks (Re: sata sucks)

2006-08-24 Thread Nick Lidakis
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:26:31AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long do they sustain operation if the power fails? -- hendrik It all depends on how power hungry your machine is. LCD is more efficient than

Re: Why l7-filter is not included on Debian Project?

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 04:47:46PM +, Kleber Leal wrote: > Hi all, > Why l7-filter is not included on Debian Project? > > The source code is distributed on GPL License. > Not every single piece of free software is in Debian (shocking, I know). The fact is, package maintenance takes time and

Re: how to tail w/o folding the output?

2006-08-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:50:50AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, How do you run tail and not have it fold the output? E.g. I run: tail -s 1 -n 40 -f kern.log But it folds the output so that what is messy is now messier... So you want the lines to be cut off at the

Re: PostgreSQL 8 debs on Debian 3.1r2

2006-08-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:02:01PM +0200, Alexander Farber wrote: > > thank you - as a Debian-newbie I wasn't aware of that repository. > Unfortunately the doc there is sparse and I still have problems: > > I've enhanced my /etc/apt/sources.list: > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable ma

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:21:24PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: } > This is the primary benefit I keep hearing about for aptitude over apt-get. } } Then why not add a "apt-get remove --deps" flag which does it like aptitude } (or at least, behaves similarly, maybe using something like deborphans)?

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-24 Thread Joseph Le-Phan
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Greetings > Michelle Konzack > Systemadministrator > Tamay Dogan Network > Debian GNU/Linux Consultant > As a friendly suggestion, would it be acceptable to you to move your shameless plug to at least the signature-level? I'd like to filter non-relevant por

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> This is the primary benefit I keep hearing about for aptitude over apt-get. Then why not add a "apt-get remove --deps" flag which does it like aptitude (or at least, behaves similarly, maybe using something like deborphans)? The main problem I have with Debian package management is the number o

Re: [sarge] devfs_mk_dir errors at boot

2006-08-24 Thread Joseph Le-Phan
Joseph Le-Phan wrote: > I recently completed a Sarge installation on lvm2 on raid. While the > system appears to be working fine after a reboot, i found the following > error message slightly distracting: > > devfs_mk_dir: invalid argument.<4>devfs_mk_dev: could not append to > parent for /disc > >

Install Etch from Sarge with debootstrap question

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Shapiro
I am currently running Sarge and want to install Etch, using debootstrap, so I can play around with it while I still have Sarge to fall back on. I have set up and mounted my filesystem under /mnt/debinst, but when I run the following command: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/debinst# /usr/sbin/debootst

diffing two files in konqueror

2006-08-24 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
I frequently do gvimdiff file1.txt file2.txt What is the most efficient way of doing this from konqueror? Is it possible? I ask because, selecting two files is more easy than typing two complete file names (even with tab and bash completion) at the CLI. Any related ideas/suggestions are also w

Re: how to modify context ("right-click") menus in KDE ?

2006-08-24 Thread Mumia W.
On 08/24/2006 09:17 AM, Zbigniew Wiech wrote: Hello, I would like to modify context menus in KDE. E.g. to add entry "scan with antivir" when right-click on the file or directory. Google didn't help much. How to ? pls regards Zbigniew In KDE, context menus are called service menus. http:/

Re: how to tail w/o folding the output?

2006-08-24 Thread Mumia W.
On 08/24/2006 08:50 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, How do you run tail and not have it fold the output? E.g. I run: tail -s 1 -n 40 -f kern.log But it folds the output so that what is messy is now messier... H In addition to using 'cut' as Dave Sherohman suggested, you can also use the

Re: Asus sucks (Re: sata sucks)

2006-08-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:26:31AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > >How long do they sustain operation if the power fails? > > > >-- hendrik > > > > > > > It all depends on how power hungry your machine is. LCD is more > efficient than CRT, a Cool 'n Quiet AM

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread Dimitar Vukman
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:45:49 -0400 Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the primary benefit I keep hearing about for aptitude over > apt-get. I just don't see it as particularly valuable. Let's talk use > cases: You can use aptitude the same way as apt-get; whats the difference be

[solved] Debian & ATI Radeon X300 don't mix? (errata corrige)

2006-08-24 Thread Yu,Glen [Ontario]
WOOT! It works! Thank you! -- Glen Yu, B.Eng | 416-739-4861 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Original Message- From: Marco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: W

Re: uptimes > 50.0, dmesg says 'race' a lot...?

2006-08-24 Thread Jochen Schulz
will trillich: > > Out of Memory: Killed process 24136 (rc). This line shows your problem. Either a process with the name 'rc' (whatever that is) has gone wild and eaten up all your memory, or it was another one, or you have a strange configuration issue. I had that a few times in the past because

Music notation

2006-08-24 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
So Noteedit allows mouse control, but many advanced notation possibilities aren't supported; Lilypond supports all sorts of things, but I can't see my score and adjust positions of articulation symbols, etc, with the mouse. The noteedit mailing list suggested starting with noteedit, and then addi

Why l7-filter is not included on Debian Project?

2006-08-24 Thread Kleber Leal
Hi all, Why l7-filter is not included on Debian Project? The source code is distributed on GPL License. Kléber Kléber Leal -- Não à pirataria. Sim ao Software Livre. Office 2003 Professional 1.599,00 Windows XP Professional749,00 Norton Antivírus 2006 78,00 __

Re: how to tail w/o folding the output?

2006-08-24 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:50:13PM EDT, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:50:50AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Hi, > > > > How do you run tail and not have it fold the output? > > > > E.g. I run: > > > > tail -s 1 -n 40 -f kern.log > > > > But it folds the output so that w

generate a iptables package with l7-filter support

2006-08-24 Thread Kleber Leal
Hi all, I am compiling a package with l7-filter support. I get the source code with apt-get source iptables, the kernel with apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 and download the patches on sourceforge. I apply the patch on kernel and OK. The kernel-image was generated successfully. I installed t

system hangs momentarily every 4 mins 2 secs

2006-08-24 Thread tom arnall
My system hangs momentarily every 4 mins 2 secs. The event coincides with a 'top' entry in which 'events/0' grabs 50-95% of cpu capacity. How can I determine what is causing the event? Thanks, Tom Arnall north spit, ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Aug 23 22:55 -0500]: > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 19:58, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > ¹ For those not of US origin, > > > > Ignore Paul as he slants his posts to cast the most negative light on > > any non-socialist administration. Given this is a Capita

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Aug 23 23:00 -0500]: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >>Nevermind that he was impeached for lying under oath in an > >>investigation > >> > > > >Er, sorry, "Faced Impeachment" is what I meant. > > > > point of fact, li

Re: [newbie]: own boot/root cd with grub : ide problem

2006-08-24 Thread Andreas Rippl
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:12:33PM +0200, Stephane Durieux wrote: >Hello, > >As a newbie (not really a developper) I want to make my own boot/root CD. >So I have made a custom kernel, an initrd to be loaded by the boot loader >and a root tree. >The ramdisk contains device /dev

Re: Hey, Steve! (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon)

2006-08-24 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 24 August 2006 04:24, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 22:26, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Uh, gas prices ring a bell? Of course you didn't reply to > > that, you blindly skipped over it. Just like you go amazingly > > silent any time someone nails you with cold hard fac

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Kent West wrote: I got bit the other day by unstable's xserver-xorg bug, and now I can't seem to recover from it. I've now got things so completely horked that I think it's best just to purge all of X11 from this box and do a clean install of X (not of Debian itself, just of the X Window System

Re: Troubles burning CD-ROMS [SOLVED]

2006-08-24 Thread Travis Crook
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:00:57 +0800 Lars Boegild Thomsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis Crook wrote: > > > It seems I would be able to burn a disc as root, but > > apparently I don't have enough free space on /tmp (and can't delete > > anything in /tmp, but that's an issue for another day). >

Re: How to Totally!! nuke X11?

2006-08-24 Thread Kent West
T wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:41:05 -0500, Kent West wrote: ... Problem is, nothing I do will completely purge it. aptitude ... apt-get and dselect have been similarly useless for this task. how did you do? Well, this was on a university lab machine that hadn't been updated

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