Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:24:46PM +0200, lee wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > > On Jo, 20 sep 12, 06:31:52, lee wrote: > >> Celejar writes: > >> > >> > If you have an OEM license, it can't be transferred to a different PC: > >> > > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 02:12:10 AM Ross Boylan wrote: > I wish you would be more civil instead of more clever about being > incivil. Never mind that Miss Manners would be utterly aghast that someone would try to claim the right to behave rudely, impolitely and/or barbarously simply becau

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 04:12:31PM +, Camaleón wrote: > Okay, I agree the user does not need to hold a MS in Computer Science as > a previous requirement for installing an OS and managing a computer. But an MS in Astronomy (Astrophysics?) won't help you build a telescope either. Remember, a c

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 00:19 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > I think most people know when I swing the cluebat that I'm not trying > to > belittle the person on the receiving end, but simply forcefully > driving > home a point. If I actually intended to hurt someone's feelings I'd > reply off list

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:21:10AM +0200, lee wrote: > Tom H writes: > > > You seem to have misunderstood that Christian's one of d-i's > > maintainers (he also seems to be a big fan of fonts!): > > Well, I didn't know any of this, and he didn't mention it. I could help > with translations if t

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 07:17:36PM +0200, lee wrote: > > That's perfect and wonderful, thank you! Sure the bug can be closed. Hopefully the submitter can close their own bugs? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the peop

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:34:47PM +0200, lee wrote: > need it. This requirement is ridiculous. It has come up only about 12 > years ago --- and aren't things nowadays supposed to be easier than they > were instead of being more difficult? Believe me, its a lot easier now than it was 12 or so ye

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 02:15:23PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > > On Mon, September 17, 2012 8:11 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > Unless you submit it against d-i as a patch, there *is* no onward. If it > > gets rejected, there should be an explanation as to why. > > > > Patches are still being accep

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/23/2012 9:20 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > Stan, I feel your question is sincere and I will answer it sincerely. > Below is your original post, quoted in its entirety: I'm going to snip a lot and try to respond to specific points as we've taken up so much list space with this tread already

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/23/2012 8:14 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Freitag, 21. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >> That's how it's supposed to work, but rarely does. Most people these >> days go straight for the mailing list hoping to save themselves the >> time/effort of doing research. This is what th

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 02:22:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:49:59 +0200 > lee wrote: > > > > > I've used it many times to watch / download media that I > > > couldn't access any other way. > > > > How did you do that? > The above was referencing gecko-mediaplayer and mozil

Re: Error message; "cannot fetch install sources"

2012-09-24 Thread Edward C. Jones
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:28:15 -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > I use up-to-date Debian testing, amd64 architecture. > > For the last few days, the following message is sometimes displayed, for > a few seconds: "cannot fetch install sources". Then it says something > like "ftp.us.debian.org wheezy i

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 24/09/12 18:50, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:33:52 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List: On 24/09/12 16:30, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS (Calendar) attachment. I

Re: Why /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh doesn't Required-Start mountnfs-bootclean too?

2012-09-24 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-09-24 20:58 +0200, Regid Ichira wrote: > $ grep Provides /etc/init.d/mountnfs-bootclean.sh > # Provides: mountnfs-bootclean > > $ grep Description /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh > # Short-Description: Miscellaneous things to be done during bootup. > # Description:

Why /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh doesn't Required-Start mountnfs-bootclean too?

2012-09-24 Thread Regid Ichira
$ grep Provides /etc/init.d/mountnfs-bootclean.sh # Provides: mountnfs-bootclean $ grep Description /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh # Short-Description: Miscellaneous things to be done during bootup. # Description: Some cleanup. Note, it need to run after mountnfs-boot

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:24:22 +0200 lee wrote: > Celejar writes: > > > You do not cite any sources for your various assertions, and I believe > > you are incorrect as a matter of US law. > > American law doesn't apply here. Letting that aside: What is a copy? > When you duplicate software, you

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:52:38 +0200 lee wrote: > Celejar writes: > > > Additionally, IIUC, Microsoft retains copyright, and only grants the > > OEM and you various rights to use and distribute the software. You, the > > end user, are granted by the OEM (in accordance with a right Microsoft > > h

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:22:28 +0200 lee wrote: > Celejar writes: > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:49:59 +0200 > > lee wrote: > > > >> Celejar writes: ... > >> like someone else would and it doesn't work, so I have no reason to > >> believe that it would work for someone else. And there was some

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Worrier Poet
On 09/24/2012 01:56 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:30:00PM +, Camale�n wrote: > >snip... >> >> P.S. Consider a replacement for IceOwl (Sunbird) because AFAICT is not >> being maintained upstream anymore. > > I've read that before. Ubuntu dumpe

Re: Current status for "wl" driver in Wheezy

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 24/09/12 19:13, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:14:52 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) so can anyone confirm the "wl" driver cannot be compiled right now in Wheezy? Are you dealing with broadcom-sta ( http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/broadcom-sta ) ? It works well on my Whe

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:30:00PM +, Camale�n wrote: snip... > > P.S. Consider a replacement for IceOwl (Sunbird) because AFAICT is not > being maintained upstream anymore. I've read that before. Ubuntu dumped it for that reason. I can't find a good *stand alone* rep

Re: Preseed for Wheezy - Sizes, Labels and Logicals

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:03:51 -0700, ray wrote: > The partman auto instructions say that with partition 'max' parameter > set to 10, all remaining space on the disk will be used. Then > it says that there is a partition size limit of 10 due to the > 32-bit shell integer limitation.

Re: Current status for "wl" driver in Wheezy

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:14:52 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) > so can anyone confirm the "wl" driver cannot be compiled right now in > Wheezy? (...) No one using the "wl" driver in wheezy? W-o-w >>:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:33:52 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List: > > On 24/09/12 16:30, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> >>> I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS >>> (Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: On 24/09/12 16:30, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS (Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This message contains an invitation to an event'' is printed.

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread Curt
On 2012-09-20, lee wrote: >> >> Hanlon's razor applies here as well. > > Huh? > I wish Gillette's razor could be applied to some of these threads. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arch

Re: let logrotate create an new empty file?

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:55:10 +0200, Meike Stone wrote: >> You simple place the log files in a different place where the user that >> creates the files has write perms or accomodate the "/var/log/ >> your_application/*" directory permissions. >> > Yes I did this, and changed the rights to the user

Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS > (Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This message > contains an invitation to an event'' is printed. But, amazingly, I can > not figure out a way

Re: [3/4OT] connect to SMTP server timeout

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:11:08 +0800, lina wrote: > I met the following issue just recent three days, > > sending of message failed. > The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server > pod51003.outlook.com timed out. Try again or contact your network > administrator. > > Is it

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:16:03 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: >>> Like I said, nothing to worry about. Do you have a plan B? >> >> Yes, of course; the same approach that I've used for DMCA-friendly >> services: avoiding those that require from me a component which is not >> available for my

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 01:54:39PM +, Camaleón wrote: > Okay, then please _describe in detail_ what's what you find that hard or > what is taking your time at the Windows OEM installation process. But kindly not on this list. This thread is increasingly becoming more and more OT. Thanks -

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:10:19 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:41:46 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Companies may have resources they could use to provide support. >>> Simply having them doesn't mean that they do. >> >> They do provide support as long as you pay for it,

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:58:29 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: For the lazy users who are not interested in what their systems are or run, a big _sure_. If there were nobody solving their issues (and I'm quite confident that Windows users have *a lot of* problems) they wil

Re: Error message; "cannot fetch install sources"

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:28:15 -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > I use up-to-date Debian testing, amd64 architecture. > > For the last few days, the following message is sometimes displayed, for > a few seconds: "cannot fetch install sources". Then it says something > like "ftp.us.debian.org wheezy i

Re: Add a PCI USB card

2012-09-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:29:12 +0200, Alex Padoly wrote: > Sir, Aye! But please, keep html turned off :-) > I have a server with Debian 6.0, I would like to put a card to have an > USB 2.0 ports. Have you considered USB 3.0? > I would like to know how Squeeze going to manage it at the first boot

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Celejar writes: > You do not cite any sources for your various assertions, and I believe > you are incorrect as a matter of US law. American law doesn't apply here. Letting that aside: What is a copy? When you duplicate software, you get an identical duplicate which is indistinguishable from ot

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Celejar writes: > Additionally, IIUC, Microsoft retains copyright, and only grants the > OEM and you various rights to use and distribute the software. You, the > end user, are granted by the OEM (in accordance with a right Microsoft > has granted *it*) the right to use the software, but not to r

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Celejar writes: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:49:59 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Celejar writes: >> > >> > Perhaps because they don't want people grabbing the videos and watching >> > them without browsing to their site, or reposting them elsewhere? >> >> People have to go to their website to get it eit

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:53:38 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >>> >>> For the lazy users who are not interested in what their systems are or >>> run, a big _sure_. If there were nobody solving their issues (and I'm >>> quite confident that Windows users have *a lot of*

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:20:20 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: > >>> Sadly, we can't be sure on what the future will provide, so worrying >>> know is useless and wasteful. The only we can do is having a "Plan B", >>> that's all. >> >> Like I said, nothing to worry about

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:41:46 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Companies may have resources they could use to provide support. Simply >> having them doesn't mean that they do. > > They do provide support as long as you pay for it, of course. Laziness > has a price. What does that have

icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List: I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS (Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This message contains an invitation to an event'' is printed. But, amazingly, I can not figure out a way to make IceOwl register the event: any idea ? Th

Re: Add a PCI USB card

2012-09-24 Thread lists
On Sep 24 2012, Alex Padoly wrote: Sir, I have a server with Debian 6.0, I would like to put a card to have an USB 2.0 ports. I would like to know how Squeeze going to manage it at the first boot. Thanks! Regards. Alex PADOLY Most if not all USB cards will be automatically detected and work

Re: let logrotate create an new empty file?

2012-09-24 Thread Meike Stone
> > You simple place the log files in a different place where the user that > creates the files has write perms or accomodate the "/var/log/ > your_application/*" directory permissions. > Yes I did this, and changed the rights to the user from the script: mkdir /var/log/script chown script.root /va

[3/4OT] connect to SMTP server timeout

2012-09-24 Thread lina
Hi, I met the following issue just recent three days, sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server pod51003.outlook.com timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. Is it something wrong from my side? How do I check the problem? T

Re: Sobre iscsi en la instalación de debian 6

2012-09-24 Thread Andrés Durán
Buenas Rubén, Perdona el retraso en mi respuesta, pero no he leído tu correo hasta que he entrado por la puerta de la oficina. Lo primero que necesitas es que tu tarjeta tenga soporte de ISCSI, normalmente entrando en la BIOS del sistema o en la ROM de la tarjeta de red puedes