Re: flakey wifi access

2014-06-30 Thread mett
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:39:29 -0400 ken wrote: > On 06/29/2014 10:50 PM tom arnall wrote: > > my wicd agent is unable to connect to wifi at mcDonald's, both in > > mexico and the states. it's fine with my home wifi and the coffee > > shop i go to. it also fails on the network at the campus where i

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:47:34 -0400 Tony Baldwin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100 > > >Tom Furie wrote: > > > > > >>On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > >> > > >>>Programming

Re: dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)

2014-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:08:54AM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > I really don't know, how to solve this problem. Does any of you have an > idea ?! > > > > root@babe3306:/home/tamer# apt-get install -f > Preparing to unpack .../libsope1_2.2.5-1_amd64.deb ... > Unpacking libsope1 (2.2.

Re: dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)

2014-06-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 01 Jul 2014, Tamer Higazi wrote: > root@babe3306:/home/tamer# apt-get install -f [...] > Preparing to unpack .../libsope1_2.2.5-1_amd64.deb ... > Unpacking libsope1 (2.2.5-1) ... > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/libsope1_2.2.5-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): > trying to

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Rusi Mody
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:40:02 AM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > >>> I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot). > >>> What do they do? W

dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)

2014-06-30 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people! I really don't know, how to solve this problem. Does any of you have an idea ?! root@babe3306:/home/tamer# apt-get install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages wi

Re: flakey wifi access

2014-06-30 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:43:14 -0700 Matt Ventura wrote: > In my case, the issue was with the underlying driver with the card > plus wicd's poor handling of failures. The connection would drop, > but wicd would continue to try to do DHCP on the connection, so it There may be something else (in sid

Re: flakey wifi access

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 5:20 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote: On 06/29/2014 07:50 PM, tom arnall wrote: my wicd agent is unable to connect to wifi at mcDonald's, both in mexico and the states. it's fine with my home wifi and the coffee shop i go to. it also fails on the network at the campus where i teach in mexi

Re: flakey wifi access

2014-06-30 Thread Brian Flaherty
On 06/29/2014 07:50 PM, tom arnall wrote: my wicd agent is unable to connect to wifi at mcDonald's, both in mexico and the states. it's fine with my home wifi and the coffee shop i go to. it also fails on the network at the campus where i teach in mexico. I had used wicd for months without pr

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 4:29 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 15:41:48 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: The card shows up as: 01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Rage XL PCI (rev 27) I'm hesitant to apt-get --purge autoremove since it wants to remove systemd. If I i

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 15:41:48 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > The card shows up as: > 01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > [AMD/ATI] Rage XL PCI (rev 27) > > I'm hesitant to apt-get --purge autoremove since it wants to remove systemd. > > If I install xorg and fvwm, it

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 2:54 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:12:01 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: On 6/30/2014 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: 6. Hopefully report success. :) ... Could be hardware, I suppose. Switch to a tty with CTL-ALT-F1. Login as a user and get the video card data from the command '

Re: Virtualized desktop

2014-06-30 Thread green
Jimmy Thrasibule wrote at 2014-06-28 06:52 -0500: > Then came the idea to virtualize everything. Make both computers a > hypervisor cluster (using Xen or KVM) and run all systems virtualized. > But at which point can this be done for desktop system? You may be interested in .

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: >>> >>> I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot). >>> What do they do? Where are they documented? >>> [I got the tips on usage on the g

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:12:01 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > On 6/30/2014 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >6. Hopefully report success. :) > > > > > Nope, installed lightdm after doing a dist-upgrade and rebooting, still > has the same issue. Starts X, displays a cursor for a couple seconds, > then cr

Re: OT: programming languages

2014-06-30 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Joe wrote: > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100 > >Tom Furie wrote: > > > >>On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > >>>Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of > >>>times you need

Re: No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:44:26 +0200 mad wrote: > pavucontrol does not fix the problem. In pavucontrol between 1 and > 100% the volume stays the same. It is muted when switched to zero > and it is getting louder over 100%. Which knob(s) did you act on? Play between application volume and general

Re: No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread mad
pavucontrol does not fix the problem. In pavucontrol between 1 and 100% the volume stays the same. It is muted when switched to zero and it is getting louder over 100%. On 30.06.2014 20:07, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad wrote: I can no longer change the volume on my de

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 10:23:38 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: Well, all I did was netinstall stable with xfce, log in once, add testing repos, and dist-upgrade. I could just try directly netinstalling testing, and if it's broken out of the box then it's almost ce

Heads-up: update microcode on all Intel Ivy Bridge/Haswell processors

2014-06-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Intel issued a high priority microcode update for all Intel processors with Ivy Bridge and Haswell microarchitectures (i.e. 4th gen and 5th gen Core processors, Xeon E3v2, Xeon E3v3, Xeon E5v2 and Xeon E7v2, plus several models of the Pentium and Celeron processors). Updated intel-microcode packag

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 16:06:32 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Thanks for the great suggestion. I had originally ruled out LILO (which > > I used back in the 20th century) because it can't deal with EFI boot, > > No, but there's a

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 11:53 AM, rob wrote: On 29/06/14 19:16, Matt Ventura wrote: I've got a pretty old machine (Celeron 2.8 GHz, ATI rage XL). It's been running Debian fine for years, but I reinstalled recently. Installed stable (chose XFCE as desktop environment), everything worked fine (lightdm worked

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread rob
On 29/06/14 19:16, Matt Ventura wrote: I've got a pretty old machine (Celeron 2.8 GHz, ATI rage XL). It's been running Debian fine for years, but I reinstalled recently. Installed stable (chose XFCE as desktop environment), everything worked fine (lightdm worked, xfce worked). Did a dist-upgrade

Re: No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:30:46 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > Problems of this sort would be much lessoned if pavucontrol was a > depend. RIc I wouldn't say 'depend' but much more 'recommend'; 'depend' should only be used for _mandatory_ dependencies IMHO. -- what means "lp0 on fire" ? that your pr

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > > > > I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot). > > What do they do? Where are they documented? > > [I got the tips on usage on the grub mailing list] > > I don't know whether confi

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/30/2014 06:24 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 28.06.2014 05:14, slitt a écrit : On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...] > Grub is a *boot loader*. Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more. > What d

Re: No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/30/2014 02:07 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad wrote: I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. May be your system has switched to pulseaudio, install pavucontrol and test it while audio playing. Problems of this sort would be much

Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:42:51 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> Removing "splash" disables the bootsplash but it doesn't disable >> plymouth. With upstart, plymouth is the interface for fscking or >> decrypting a partition. > > Oh! I've never used Ubuntu in

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> >> Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders. >> LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a >> single easy text file

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > > There used to be a grub wiki: grub.enbug.org. The link is now dead. > > It can however still be found in the webarchive: > https://web.archive.org/web/20100819173835/http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage The grub manual that I posted earlier was so

Re: No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:44:02 +0200 mad wrote: > I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian > testing. May be your system has switched to pulseaudio, install pavucontrol and test it while audio playing. -- Mel : Does guy's brain unscrambler exists? :'( Blondin : yep Blondin

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread davidson
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Matt Ventura wrote: On 6/30/2014 10:13 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 09:11:01 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: The system otherwise works completely fine. Packages operations work fine, so I don't think that's where the problem lies. There was no downgrading, just upgr

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: >>> On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its document

Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:42:51 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400 > >> Tom H wrote: > >> > >> functional, graphical boots, framebuffer boots, enforced GUI login ju

No volume change possible

2014-06-30 Thread mad
Hi, I can no longer change the volume on my desktop running Debian testing. In kmix or alsamixer (card: pulseaudio) I can lower the volume but nothing happens until the volume switches to zero. Then the sound is muted. Above zero the volume is always the same. On the command line with mplaye

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 10:23:38 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > Well, all I did was netinstall stable with xfce, log in once, > add testing repos, and dist-upgrade. I could just try directly > netinstalling testing, and if it's broken out of the box then > it's almost certainly a bug, right? You coul

Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400 >> Tom H wrote: >> >> functional, graphical boots, framebuffer boots, enforced GUI login just >> get in the way. >> >> Plymouth sux! > > Plymouth can be di

Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?

2014-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz >> wrote: >>> On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote: The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away f

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 10:13 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 09:11:01 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: The system otherwise works completely fine. Packages operations work fine, so I don't think that's where the problem lies. There was no downgrading, just upgraded to testing and it didn't work, figured

Debian Jessie Intel 915GM Suspend on Lid Close

2014-06-30 Thread Dylan Bass
I have an older Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop. It has an Intel 915 GM chipset. Sleep on lid close on Debian Wheezy works perfectly. I just uncomment "LID_SLEEP=true" in /etc/default/acpi-support to get suspend on lid close working. I recently upgraded to Debian Jessie for various reasons, and the s

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 09:11:01 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > The system otherwise works completely fine. Packages operations work > fine, so I don't think that's where the problem lies. There was no > downgrading, just upgraded to testing and it didn't work, figured I > might as well check if it wa

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Matt Ventura
On 6/30/2014 4:12 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:16:58AM -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: I've got a pretty old machine (Celeron 2.8 GHz, ATI rage XL). It's been running Debian fine for years, but I reinstalled recently. Installed stable (chose XFCE as desktop environment), ever

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:53:41 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Thanks for the great suggestion. I had originally ruled out LILO > (which I used back in the 20th century) because it can't deal with > EFI boot, as I remember. But (let's all take some time to laugh), > my boot disk is a 250 SSD with an MRB

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > > Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders. > > LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a > > single ea

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders. > LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a > single easy text file as configuration. > It's what I'm doing, excepted at work for

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-30 13:15:36 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: > > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-30 12:35:37 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I know that it probably needs more time than simply asking to softwares to > guess what you want, but I am a programmer, and I know that a program can > never guess what I have in mind, which solution I will prefer. Especially > s

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0 libaudit-common > libaudit1 libboost-date-time1.55.0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:49:36 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2014-06-29 12:52:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : > > > If that is what you really want to do you are not going about it in > > > the right way. > > > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-us

Re: GTK crashing X?

2014-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:16:58AM -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > I've got a pretty old machine (Celeron 2.8 GHz, ATI rage XL). It's been > running Debian fine for years, but I reinstalled recently. Installed stable > (chose XFCE as desktop environment), everything worked fine (lightdm worked, > xfce

Re: flakey wifi access

2014-06-30 Thread ken
On 06/29/2014 10:50 PM tom arnall wrote: my wicd agent is unable to connect to wifi at mcDonald's, both in mexico and the states. it's fine with my home wifi and the coffee shop i go to. it also fails on the network at the campus where i teach in mexico. "Unable to connect" can mean a lot of th

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.06.2014 00:25, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. I have learn a lot of things because I used apt

Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.06.2014 05:14, slitt a écrit : On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...] > Grub is a *boot loader*. Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more. > What do you expect it to do? Mind read? I'd almost say that's one o

Re: Linux replacement for Sony PMB?

2014-06-30 Thread Per Andersson
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Is there a good replacement for Sony's PMB software? I mean, something that > can import both photos and videos from a camera, and store & play them in > the order of date/time of recording. I use shotwell which has support for images as