On 8/15/14, Joel Rees wrote:
> Be careful where you see conspiracy.
> Look first in your own heart.
PS, I forgot my sig:
"Be careful where you fail to see comedy.
You heart may be in need of some."
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On 8/15/14, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM, AW
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:19 +0900
>> Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> > When you're grep- or sed-searching a textual log file, you don't care
>> > whether all the log entries fit any particular relation or structure
>> > de
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM, AW wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:19 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
> > When you're grep- or sed-searching a textual log file, you don't care
> > whether all the log entries fit any particular relation or structure
> > definition, and you don't have to think si
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:42 AM, AW wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:16:16 -0400
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> > It NEVER
> > contains just one table, even if that table has multiple columns (and
> > the database is properly normalized).
>
> See step 1... selecting the table = selecting the log
On 20140814_2247+0100, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:28 -0600
> Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Comments (opinion) supporting your position that SQL logging is silly.
> >
> > It is my understanding that SQL is a query language that is designed
> > to query (and update) a *relational
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:16:16 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> It NEVER
> contains just one table, even if that table has multiple columns (and
> the database is properly normalized).
See step 1... selecting the table = selecting the log file...
A multiple table database is precisely the same as
On 8/14/2014 8:47 PM, AW wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:19 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
> > When you're grep- or sed-searching a textual log file, you don't care
> > whether all the log entries fit any particular relation or structure
> > definition, and you don't have to think sideways to s
On 8/14/2014 6:45 PM, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:50:02 AM UTC+5:30, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>> Comments (opinion) supporting your position that SQL logging is silly.
>
>> It is my understanding that SQL is a query language that is designed
>> to query (and update) a *relationa
On 8/14/2014 5:47 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:28 -0600
> Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Comments (opinion) supporting your position that SQL logging is silly.
>>
>> It is my understanding that SQL is a query language that is designed
>> to query (and update) a *relational*database
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:19 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> When you're grep- or sed-searching a textual log file, you don't care
> whether all the log entries fit any particular relation or structure
> definition, and you don't have to think sideways to search on the
> keywords buried in the text
On 8/15/14, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:14:09 +0200
> sa...@eng.it wrote:
>> Zenaan Harkness writes:
>>
>> > ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
>>
>> Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
>> Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
>
> At this point, mightn't it be good to
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:05 AM, AW wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:28 -0600
> Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> > Andrew, are your cookies virtuous (lo-cal) or virtual? ;)
>
> Neither. I prefer homemade chocolate chip using 1/2 cup butter and 1/2 cup
> Crisco... Just like my grandmother used to make
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:50:02 AM UTC+5:30, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Comments (opinion) supporting your position that SQL logging is silly.
> It is my understanding that SQL is a query language that is designed
> to query (and update) a *relational*database* that has been designed
> according t
On Thursday 14 August 2014 22:21:06 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 20:40:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I have a USB wireless card that is a zd1211rw. It does not seem to
> > function.
>
> have you installed zd1211-firmware?
Thanks, Brian. :-) I can't test it now, but I haven't, so that i
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:28 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>
> Comments (opinion) supporting your position that SQL logging is silly.
>
> It is my understanding that SQL is a query language that is designed
> to query (and update) a *relational*database* that has been designed
> according to des
On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 20:40:24 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I have a USB wireless card that is a zd1211rw. It does not seem to function.
have you installed zd1211-firmware?
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:28 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
> Andrew, are your cookies virtuous (lo-cal) or virtual? ;)
Neither. I prefer homemade chocolate chip using 1/2 cup butter and 1/2 cup
Crisco... Just like my grandmother used to make...
> Comments (opinion) supporting your position tha
On 20140809_1647-0400, AW wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were:
> >
> > 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.
> >
> > 2) To get rid of gratu
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:40:24 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I have a USB wireless card that is a zd1211rw. It does not seem
> to function.
From what you sent, I'd say it's fully functional; you just
have to add a wireless connection in NM (U must know at least
the wifi network's name and the passwor
I have a USB wireless card that is a zd1211rw. It does not seem to function.
I installed wicd, which said that it could find no wireless networks, then
remembered that this system appears to have a functioning Network Manager (I
didn't know that there was such a thing!) and hastily uninstalled
On 08/14/2014 01:11 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I use a second monitor on my old Dell Inspiron, and have 3 monitors on
my main desktop.
Might as well use the last video out to use four. Works a charm with
nVidia. I turned off the onboard video in the bios, and installed two
PCIe nVidia cards th
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:14:09 +0200
sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness writes:
>
> > ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
>
> Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
> Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
>
At this point, mightn't it be good to change the subject, just in case
the o
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody:
> > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody:
> >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /de
I use a second monitor on my old Dell Inspiron, and have 3 monitors on my
main desktop.
Both have nVidia hardware, so I load up the nvidia-settings package and
find I can configure the monitors as I like. I generally like to extend
the desktop, so that each monitor shows different stuff. That me
On 14/08/2014, Brian wrote:
> Argumentum ab auctoritate. :)
>
Ah; does that mean that the stomach muscles of the argument, cause it
to autorotate?
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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody:
> > Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No
> > such file or directory
> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using
> udev
Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody:
> On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody:
>>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No
>>> such file or directory
>
>> Since you don't have the /dev
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
> > To add to my earlier report:
> > I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries.
> > So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' :
> > The following pack
On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 18:04:55 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> > We have come full circle. Which one of us goes to jail and does not
> > collect 200 GBP? :)
>
> May I have the 200 GBP? There's a LMS Garrat Model by Heljan at 199GBP...
Of course! I am easily persuaded by an argument from desire.
On 2014-08-14, Iain M Conochie wrote:
> Yet this is exactly what my 2 year old car does now. I halt at the
> lights and the engine powers off. Is this a bug?
Depends.
> Given enough usage, a bug can become a feature.
Some clever folks turn bugs into features, I reckon:
http://www.usatoday.co
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On 08/14/2014 10:35 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
> wrote:
>
>> In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
>> modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
>> noun phras
Brian writes:
> On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 17:29:22 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
>
> > Brian writes:
> > > *Your* use of .xinitrc is not the issue. Your advice, without
> > > qualification. that users of Debian follow in your footsteps is.
> > > The argument is set out in the earlier linked post
On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 17:29:22 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Brian writes:
> > *Your* use of .xinitrc is not the issue. Your advice, without
> > qualification. that users of Debian follow in your footsteps is.
> > The argument is set out in the earlier linked post.
>
> Can't check right now, bu
On 12/08/14 22:23, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 17:53:19 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
But if the english meaning of the words give
exact this difference, so well. In my understanding there never was much of
a difference between halt and poweroff.
I'm not quite clear what you are say
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote:
>
> To add to my earlier report:
>
> I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries.
>
> So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' :
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvin
- Original Message -
> From: "David Baron"
>
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:36:51 Rob Owens wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > > From: "David Baron"
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > >
> > > > > From
Brian writes:
> *Your* use of .xinitrc is not the issue. Your advice, without
> qualification. that users of Debian follow in your footsteps is.
> The argument is set out in the earlier linked post.
Can't check right now, but if I recall it well I cited both .xinitrc
and .xsession, whichever on
On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 17:00:08 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Brian writes:
> > On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 14:22:25 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> >
> > > Brian writes:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a reason to prefer .xinitrc over .xsession with startx?
> > >
> > > First of all, I used .xinitrc wh
On Wed, 8/13/14, Bret Busby wrote:
Subject: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 11:46 PM
I have just tried to install vlc on this laptop.
At first attempt, it kept prompting fo
Brian writes:
> On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 14:22:25 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
>
> > Brian writes:
> > >
> > > Is there a reason to prefer .xinitrc over .xsession with startx?
> >
> > First of all, I used .xinitrc when Linux kernel version was below 0,
> > my environment is more or less t
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:00:03 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using?
>
>
> Thanks Michael
To add to my earlier report:
I managed to remove graphviz a
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
wrote:
>
> In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
> modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
> noun phrase expressing a type of job, and must be some kind of geeky
> usage. OTOH, the noun phrase 'stopp
On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 14:22:25 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Brian writes:
> >
> > Is there a reason to prefer .xinitrc over .xsession with startx?
>
> First of all, I used .xinitrc when Linux kernel version was below 0,
> my environment is more or less the same I used on the Sun boxes when I
Zenaan Harkness writes:
> ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody:
> > Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No
> > such file or directory
> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using
> udev
On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:56 AM, AW wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:42:12 -0400
> John Bleichert wrote:
>
>> Apache on Debian
>
> Jessie = Apache 2.4
> Wheezy = Apache 2.2
>
> Apache 2.4 is very different than 2.2... Many things have changed including
> variable names, SSL cert configuration, an
On 8/14/14, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:03:31PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon wrote:
>> > I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
>> > just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
>>
>> That's "TM" for YOU son! It's formal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:03:31PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
> > just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
>
> That's "TM" for YOU son! It's formal english thank you very much. and
> "(t
Brian writes:
> On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 09:08:29 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
>
> [A nice xrandr howto snipped]
>
> > One last thing. Since you do not want to issue this command over and
> > over again, you can place it into the .xsession file (if you use
> > xdm/gdm/kdm) or .xinitrc file if y
On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
> just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
That's "TM" for YOU son! It's formal english thank you very much. and
"(tm)" is a very sloppy rendition!! I don't know that we can tolerate
this level
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:44:16 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> this is not a situation where we are worried about
> attackers
Crypto is crypto... and md5, sha1, sha256 are cryptographic hashes. And a
cryptographic hash is only as good as its slowness in reverse computation and
its uniqueness [collisio
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:18:21 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> Did you mean 3xiTB, by any chance?
There will be blood... err.. typos.
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:42:12 -0400
John Bleichert wrote:
> Apache on Debian
Jessie = Apache 2.4
Wheezy = Apache 2.2
Apache 2.4 is very different than 2.2... Many things have changed including
variable names, SSL cert configuration, and many others... this is not a Debian
thing.
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On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 09:08:29 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
[A nice xrandr howto snipped]
> One last thing. Since you do not want to issue this command over and
> over again, you can place it into the .xsession file (if you use
> xdm/gdm/kdm) or .xinitrc file if you log on in a text console and the
Elimar Riesebieter writes:
> https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
Cool page, thank you.
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* Bret Busby [2014-08-14 17:42 +0800]:
[...]
> After reading the thread, and the above response, it occurred to me,
> that this could be worthwhile to add to the debian.org web site, as a
> "HowTo", for whoever has the privileges.
>
> Or, if such a thing exists, a Debian "HowTo" wiki?
https://wi
Bret Busby writes:
> After reading the thread, and the above response, it occurred to me,
> that this could be worthwhile to add to the debian.org web site, as a
> "HowTo", for whoever has the privileges.
I share the part of my .xinitrc that deals with xrandr
# check if the tv I have home is c
Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody:
> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No
> such file or directory
Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using
udev 208-7?
Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using?
On 14/08/2014, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Robert D. Hilliard writes:
> > Reply To: bobhilli...@gmail.com
>
>> I have a new Dell Ispiron that dual boots Windows 7 and Debian 7.4.
> > The new machine uses the F1 key to connect to the second monitor, but
> > it only works in Windows - In Debian pressi
On Mi, 13 aug 14, 17:13:24, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> * From: Andrei POPESCU
> * Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:32:32 +0300
> > ... complete output from running apt-get ...
>
> root@armada:/home/peter# apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686-pae
...
> root@armada:/home/peter# apt-get install lin
On Jo, 14 aug 14, 09:48:45, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> A four-four draw in the technical committees should have been a call
> to open the discussion to a wider user base, not a call for one member
> of the committee to make an arbitrary decision. Things are not
> functioning correctly "up" there, even i
Robert D. Hilliard writes:
> Reply To: bobhilli...@gmail.com
> I have a new Dell Ispiron that dual boots Windows 7 and Debian 7.4.
> The new machine uses the F1 key to connect to the second monitor, but
> it only works in Windows - In Debian pressing F! is a noop.
I would advice to use xrandr
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