Re: Jessie netinstall CD on very limited internet connection.......

2014-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Charlie wrote: > > Just curious: > > I used a Jessie netinstall CD, downloaded some time ago, on a > computer belonging to a friend, who has a very limited internet > connection. It gave me an error message after reading the CD and I > think at the step of installi

audio bug

2014-10-04 Thread nanohard
Jessie and Wheezy Reproducible PulseAudio It should be noted that Audacious was set to use PulseAudio, and that when set to Alsa instead, Audacious lowers the system volume as well as increases it and this decibel bug as reported below does not happen. Circumstance: Audacious is open. When ad

Re: PHP memory limit upper bound

2014-10-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
Your posts are very hard to follow - perhaps Kmail is a little broken? I've re-edited this post accordingly - though it still incorrectly shows comment precedence. Perhaps you are not simply selecting a response from the list and choosing "reply to" as an option?? On 04/10/14 23:53, Grigor Kolev

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 06:24:18 +0200 Sven Hartge sent: > >> Knowing what was in your sources.list would save having to guess > >> what you have done incorrectly. > > > This is how it was, a single line in my /etc/apt/sources.list: > > > deb http://http.debian.net/jessie main non-free contrib

Re: Cannot boot when /sbin/init is linked to /lib/systemd/systemd, but works with ../lib/systemd/systemd [SOLVED]

2014-10-04 Thread Steve M. Robbins
> On September 21, 2014 10:45:44 PM Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > Is anyone else in the same boat (absolute symlink fails even though / is > > not nfs)? Final update: the issue vanished after updating to initramfs-tools 0.118. Thanks, Ben Hutchings!! -Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: systemd

2014-10-04 Thread Buntunub
John Hasler-3 wrote > There may be packages into > which the upstream authors have twisted Systemd dependencies > inextricably, but that is not anything Debian can change. > -- > John Hasler > jhasler@ > Elmwood, WI USA And sir, that is the problem with Systemd and Debians acceptance of it as

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Sven Hartge
Charlie wrote: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 23:13:51 +0100 Brian sent: >> On Sun 05 Oct 2014 at 08:46:12 +1100, Charlie wrote: >>> W: Failed to fetch >>> http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 >>> Not Found >> Knowing what was in your sources.list would save havin

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes: > A MAC is still a PC. PC is short for Personal Computer. Yes. Unfortunately, in common parlance a "peecee" is a desktop computer running Microsoft Windows. As in "Do you have a peecee?" "No. I have a Mac." The "Getting Debian" page refers specifically to "64 bit PC" a

Jessie netinstall CD on very limited internet connection.......

2014-10-04 Thread Charlie
Just curious: I used a Jessie netinstall CD, downloaded some time ago, on a computer belonging to a friend, who has a very limited internet connection. It gave me an error message after reading the CD and I think at the step of installing the base system or just before that. It was something abo

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 23:13:51 +0100 Brian sent: > On Sun 05 Oct 2014 at 08:46:12 +1100, Charlie wrote: > > > Just tried it to see how it worked, but it doesn't work for me. > > That's because you have done something incorrectly. > > > W: Failed to fetch > > http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/ma

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 04:22:21PM -0400, Doug wrote: > On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > Harry Putnam writes: > >> So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > >> different from `pc'. > > > > "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. > > > This is probably not mu

Re: Serial Port Problems

2014-10-04 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
On 10/03/2014 03:33 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:50AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I am trying to capture data from a serial port and write it to a file. ethan@meow:/var/www$ cat /dev/ttyS0 > scale_value.html cat: /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy lsof

RE: squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-10-04 Thread Tobias Weiß
Howdy, > A little concerning that one has to go through that. > :-( I feel releaved that I was not the only one with that problem :) I took another approach, which worked for me: I installed in a virtual maschine a fresh Squeeze version, added squeeze lts-repo and tar-zipped /etc/apt/ and repl

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Sven Hartge
Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/04/2014 05:46 PM, Charlie wrote: >> Just tried it to see how it worked, but it doesn't work for me. >> >> W: Failed to fetch >> http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 >> Not Found >> >> W: Failed to fetch >> http://http.debian.net/

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/04/2014 05:46 PM, Charlie wrote: Just tried it to see how it worked, but it doesn't work for me. W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/contrib/binary-amd64/Pack

Re: Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-04 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Alberto Salvia Novella: > Windows 10 has just been launched, so perhaps you'll want to make > sure some people gets educated by giving your insight: > > Felipe de Andrade Neves Lavratti: It seems to be fully flat graphics. I wonder if Lin

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 15:19:26 Lisi Reisz wrote: > There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular > found favour. But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me. > Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player > for me to take o

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sun 05 Oct 2014 at 08:46:12 +1100, Charlie wrote: > Just tried it to see how it worked, but it doesn't work for me. That's because you have done something incorrectly. > W: Failed to fetch > http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages > 404 Not Found There you a

Re: Expletives Deleted

2014-10-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM, David Baron wrote: > I come to this list for new, advice, discussion on Debian installation, > software, packages, problems, advice. It has help and saved my skin > (system) > times in the past. Do not read every word of every post but those of > interest > as this

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:21:40 +0100 Brian sent: > On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 08:05:26 -0500, John Aten wrote: > > > On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > Here's everything again, with some comments to explain what each > > > line does: > > > > > >

Re: Serial Port Problems

2014-10-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/4/2014 10:48 AM, Markos wrote: > Dear Ethan, > > Your scale has a DB9, DB25 or USB connector? > > It is important to make sure that the cable you are using has the > correct pinout. > > Your scale has come with a cable from manufacturer or you set up the > communication cable yourself? >

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/04/2014 04:52 PM, Intense Red wrote: Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off getting an cheap android phone/tablet. I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with you. What I have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with Debian".

Re: systemd

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Andrew McGlashan writes: > My view is that systemd is a forgone conclusion and no-one whom has > decided that it should be will be convinced otherwise. Systemd as *default* is decided. Systemd as *required* most certainly is not: quite the contrary. There will be alternatives as long as there ar

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Intense Red
> Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off > getting an cheap android phone/tablet. I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with you. What I have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with Debian". I use a Sansa Clip (e.g. http://www.

Re: Expletives Deleted

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/04/2014 04:16 PM, Curt wrote: On 2014-10-04, David Baron wrote: Comeon, folks, I take it we are at least pretending to be professionals. That Professionals? Yeah, or something like that! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world...

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-04 Thread PaulNM
On 10/04/2014 04:09 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:06PM +0200, lee wrote: >>> Can I create a snapshot over the network on disks an another >>> machine? >> >> No > > You can, but not trivially. Use nbd, iscsi or similar to s

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread PaulNM
On 10/04/2014 04:15 PM, John Holland wrote: > Its More Like 200$, But The fiio X3 is very nice.plays audiophile formats > like FLAC as well as mp3. Fiio is a Chinese company. > -- > John Holland > jholl...@vin-dit.org > gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D > Respectfully, once you're getting above $100

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-04 Thread John Holland
I think you can pipe output of dd on the source to netcat, going to a netcat on the destination machine which is piped to dd going to a device or file on that machine. -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D - Original Message - From: Don Armstrong Sent: 10/

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread John Holland
Its More Like 200$, But The fiio X3 is very nice.plays audiophile formats like FLAC as well as mp3. Fiio is a Chinese company. -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D - Original Message - From: Joe Sent: 10/04/2014 - 1:39 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Su

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Harry Putnam writes: >> So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture >> different from `pc'. > > "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. > This is probably not much help to the person who provoked the question. "PC" normally means

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-04 Thread John Holland
Zfsonlinux.org has info on using ZFS with debian. I create vm images and snapshot them and clone the snapshots all the time. The clones are writable and only use as much space as corresponds to the difference from the source. The volumes have to be ZVOL s, not regular files. I have found this v

Re: Expletives Deleted

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-04, David Baron wrote: > > Comeon, folks, I take it we are at least pretending to be professionals. That Professionals? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://l

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:06PM +0200, lee wrote: > > Can I create a snapshot over the network on disks an another > > machine? > > No You can, but not trivially. Use nbd, iscsi or similar to share a block device over the network, and then use lv

systemd

2014-10-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Do I want systemd ? - definitely and absolutely NO. Is there any point arguing here in debian-user ? - definitely NOT. My view is that systemd is a forgone conclusion and no-one whom has decided that it should be will be convinced otherwise. I

Re: Expletives Deleted

2014-10-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014, David Baron wrote: > Comeon, folks, I take it we are at least pretending to be > professionals. That means a modicum of decorum, common good taste, > self-restraint when called-for. As a side note, behavior which violates the Code of Conduct and the mailing list guidelines are

Re: (Song) About FK Sys___d. Link Enclosed

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 19:52:47 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 19:46:12 Brad Townshend wrote: > > Hey, Looks like I was banned from the mailing list for questioning sys___d! > > Cool, debate and such. > >   > > Here's a song I recorded earlier today. > > I was thinking negat

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/04/2014 11:12 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: My machine has nothing to do with amd Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's IA-64 never became really popular), so actually it does ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 That is interesting. I

Expletives Deleted

2014-10-04 Thread David Baron
I come to this list for new, advice, discussion on Debian installation, software, packages, problems, advice. It has help and saved my skin (system) times in the past. Do not read every word of every post but those of interest as this is a very active list. Some claim systemd has ruined Debian.

Re: (Song) About FK Sys___d. Link Enclosed

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 19:46:12 Brad Townshend wrote: > Hey, Looks like I was banned from the mailing list for questioning sys___d! > Cool, debate and such. >   > Here's a song I recorded earlier today. > I was thinking negative thoughts about "sys___D" when doing so: > http://youtu.be/JbRztcL

(Song) About FK Sys___d. Link Enclosed

2014-10-04 Thread Brad Townshend
Hey, Looks like I was banned from the mailing list for questioning sys___d! Cool, debate and such.   Here's a song I recorded earlier today. I was thinking negative thoughts about "sys___D" when doing so: http://youtu.be/JbRztcLaQa8   It is GPL v2 Licensed ofcourse. Fk your system. and Fk you those

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Buntunub
Tom Collins wrote > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. While many do agree with your sentiment, there is no need to post inflammatory comments such as this. In fact, you do a lot to detract from the cause of those who feel as you do by doing this, so stop, please. If you can't say

Re: (Song) Fk SystemD

2014-10-04 Thread Al Viro
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 06:49:30PM +0200, Tom Collins wrote: [snip masturbation] To quote Jordan Hubbard, Your brand of "advocacy" is akin to having the KKK show up at one's wedding to congradulate the happy couple on their choice of marrying within their race. Some kind

Re: Trolling (was Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System")

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 07:42:24 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I don't think most of the people who post things like that are "trolls" > in the classic sense. I think it's more likely that most of them are > just very, very angry, or possibly just outraged, to the point that it > overrides both polit

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sun 05 Oct 2014 at 00:34:33 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 04/10/14 20:44, Tom Collins wrote: > > Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System" > > ?? > > What site where you looking at? Not https://www.debian.org/ > Maybe "they" fixed it, or maybe you have a DNS problem to

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Mike McGinn
On Saturday, October 04, 2014 06:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System" > > On google searches debian pages still turn up like this: > Debian -- Mailing Lists - Debian -- The Universal Operating ... > > When you go to the page "The Universal Oper

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Joe
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:19:26 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in > particular found favour. But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have > all failed me. Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable > inexpensive MP3 player for me to take on

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 17:37:19 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 17:07:21 Steve Litt wrote: > > Why you don't redirect my email to /dev/null is a mystery to me. > > As you wish. But you have never descended to calling those you disagree > with "worthless trash". But, as th

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread David Gonzalez
I'm using Sansa Clip+ and it's been great. Additionally I also changed the firmware to Rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/) which has been a wonderful experience. On 10/04/2014 01:11 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On 4 Oct 2014, at 16:13, Kumar Appaiah wrote: The Sandisk Sansa family is quite

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-04, Harry Putnam wrote: > > So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > different from `pc'. PC stands for Personal Computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 16:13, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > The Sandisk Sansa family is quite good[1]. I personally use the Sansa > Clip+, but have used the old Fuze in the past. While they work out of > the box, many of them support the free alternative firmware Rockbox > for extra goodnessp[2]. Se

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 16:47, Steve Litt wrote: > > Yeah, go ahead. And then three more will pop up for each one you > silence. Are you endorsing the original message in this thread, or am I misinterpreting you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

(Song) Fk SystemD

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Collins
youtu.be/JbRztcLaQa8 Fuck Systemd. It is passionless static, worthless. Only here to force us in a direction. And Linus Trovalds agrees 100% with that direction. But he never claimed to be brilliant nor have good taste in women nor be uncorruptable (got to keep that RedHat stock valuable)   This

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-04, Brian wrote: > > Ok, http://http.debian.net won't write out a sources.list file for you > but one of its functions is to choose a fast mirror. Amongst the reasons for > choosing it instead of specifying a particular geographical mirror are > I guess everybody knows about this site:

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/10/14 17:07, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 12:31:43 +0100 > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> On 04/10/14 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. >>> >>> This sort of thing makes me so

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-04, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory Smith" by > another name? > It's a cocktail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 17:07:21 Steve Litt wrote: > Why you don't redirect my email to /dev/null is a mystery to me. As you wish. But you have never descended to calling those you disagree with "worthless trash". Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: How to install qt5 on Wheezy, and is that even a good idea?

2014-10-04 Thread Mark Carroll
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Sb, 04 oct 14, 16:44:17, Mark Carroll wrote: (snip) > The only time one could say stable is "catching up to testing" is the > moment of a stable release, but even then, it's not quite accurate since > the current testing *becomes* stable, the next testing is started

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 12:31:43 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 04/10/14 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > >> Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory > > Smit

Re: How to install qt5 on Wheezy, and is that even a good idea?

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 oct 14, 16:44:17, Mark Carroll wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > On Sb, 23 aug 14, 13:43:50, Mark Carroll wrote: > >> > >> Package: * > >> Pin: release a=testing > >> Pin-Priority: 50 > >> > >> Package: * > >> Pin: release a=unstable > >> Pin-Priority: 40 > > > > This will make bot

Re: Serial Port Problems

2014-10-04 Thread Markos
Dear Ethan, Your scale has a DB9, DB25 or USB connector? It is important to make sure that the cable you are using has the correct pinout. Your scale has come with a cable from manufacturer or you set up the communication cable yourself? The DB9 serial cable for communication use, in gener

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:14:41 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory > Smith" by another name? > > Please, ban anyone whose "discu

Re: How to install qt5 on Wheezy, and is that even a good idea?

2014-10-04 Thread Mark Carroll
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Sb, 23 aug 14, 13:43:50, Mark Carroll wrote: >> >> In my /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences I have, >> >> Package: * >> Pin: release a=stable >> Pin-Priority: 600 > > You are increasing priority of stable, from 500 to 600, why? I can't remember; it never seemed to b

Re: [Startubuntu] Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-04 Thread Felipe de Andrade Neves Lavratti
It seems to be fully flat graphics. I wonder if Linux distros should follow this trend. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Windows 10 has just been launched, so perhaps you'll want to make sure some > people gets educated by giving your insight: > >

gnome: cannot use the applets (power, network settings, etc)

2014-10-04 Thread H.S.
Folks, Since a few months now, I have not been able to use some settings from the applets (top right corner of screen, gnome). The log off button works, but reboot/shutdown doesn't. I am also not able to configure my wired network connection from the applet. Any change I make does not stick.

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 03:19:26PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular found > favour. But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me. Can any > kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player for me to

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Harry Putnam writes: > So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > different from `pc'. "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrei POPESCU writes: >> My machine has nothing to do with amd > > Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's > IA-64 never became really popular), so actually it does ;) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 That is interesting. I would not have guessed at that fact

apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread John Aten
Begin forwarded message: > From: John Aten > Date: October 4, 2014 10:10:02 AM CDT > To: Brian > Subject: Re: apt update problems > > > On Oct 4, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Brian wrote: > >> On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 08:05:26 -0500, John Aten wrote: >> >>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Andrei POPESCU wro

Re: wrong mount point after update

2014-10-04 Thread José Silva
On 04/10/14 06:00, Marko Randjelovic wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 00:20:19 +0100 José Silva wrote: On 03/10/14 23:44, José Silva wrote: Hello, On my Jessie x64, until today, I was used to my usb disks being mounted at /media/myuser/disklabel. After today's update, the first disk always get mou

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 09:47:46 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. > > What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? > > My machine has nothing to do with amd but that is the only thing > listed as 64 bit on the pages including jessie or

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 oct 14, 09:47:46, Harry Putnam wrote: > I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. > > What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? > > My machine has nothing to do with amd Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's IA-64 never became

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/10/14 20:44, Tom Collins wrote: > Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System" ?? What site where you looking at? Not https://www.debian.org/ Maybe "they" fixed it, or maybe you have a DNS problem too. ---8<->8-- HTH Kind regards -

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 08:05:26 -0500, John Aten wrote: > On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Here's everything again, with some comments to explain what each line > > does: > > > > --- > > > > # This is the

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 15:05:07 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 10/4/2014 9:33 AM, Jeff Bauer wrote: > > Either could be accurately used. To wit: > > Maybe in general/non computer terminology Not according to Wiktionary, with which I must day I agree: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/depreciate > , but

MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular found favour. But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me. Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player for me to take on holiday. I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with

Jigdo vs. BitTorrent vs. normal downloads [was: Re: portability of jigdo]

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[for the archives] On Du, 31 aug 14, 18:36:42, Rusi Mody wrote: > Context: > On the tex user group, someone was asking/complaining about the difficulties > of downloading texlive. > > - One has to download one (few?) large (in GBs) dvd image > - The user was on a slow/flaky line > > In response

Re: Re: PHP memory limit upper bound

2014-10-04 Thread Grigor Kolev
>> >> I need to set the PHP memory limit to more than 512 MB and found that I >> can't. Is this caused by the Suhosin patch (my guess), and how to get >> around it? >> >> (I tried to set suhosin.memory_limit to 1024M: no change. Was told that >> php5-suhosin

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/4/2014 9:33 AM, Jeff Bauer wrote: > Either could be accurately used. To wit: Maybe in general/non computer terminology, but not in with respect to computer software... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecation http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/45295/why-is-there-confusion-between-

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 14:47:46 Harry Putnam wrote: > is > amd64 what I should download for a 64 bit PC? Yes. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.

32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? My machine has nothing to do with amd but that is the only thing listed as 64 bit on the pages including jessie or testing. However, at https://www.debian.org/distrib/ the starting pag

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-04 Thread lee
"Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > Hi > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:06PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how can I create a LVM snapshot of a VM? >> >> >> root@heimdall:~# lvcreate -L 4G -s /dev/mapper/vg_guests-lv_jarl -n >> lv_snap_jarl /dev/mapper/vg_mydata >> Physical Volume "/dev/mapper/

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/04/2014 08:44 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/4/2014 6:44 AM, Tom Collins wrote: and "depreciating" (as if they have the right to do that) many programs that rely on gtk2 and non-syst__d. It is 'deprecating', not 'depreciating' (an accounting term). Either could be accurately used. To w

Re: How to install qt5 on Wheezy, and is that even a good idea?

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[for the archives] On Sb, 23 aug 14, 13:43:50, Mark Carroll wrote: > > In my /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences I have, > > Package: * > Pin: release a=stable > Pin-Priority: 600 You are increasing priority of stable, from 500 to 600, why? > and also, > > Package: * > Pin: release a=testing >

Re: Removing unwanted language files from texlive.

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
You probably want to remove the texlive package (which pulls in most texlive packages) and install texlive-lang-european . -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread John Aten
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 03 oct 14, 22:17:42, Maureen L Thomas wrote: >> On 10/03/2014 03:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> >>> It's important you attach them since your mailer seems to be a little >>> bit too help

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/4/2014 6:44 AM, Tom Collins wrote: > and "depreciating" (as if they have the right to do that) many > programs that rely on gtk2 and non-syst__d. It is 'deprecating', not 'depreciating' (an accounting term). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Trolling (was Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System")

2014-10-04 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/04/2014 at 07:31 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 04/10/14 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: >> >>> Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. >> >> This sort of thing makes me so

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/10/14 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: >> Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory Smith" by > another name? > > Please, ban anyone whose "discussion" descends t

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 oct 14, 12:14:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory Smith" by > another name? > > Please, ban anyone whose "discussion"

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Terence
I'll second that! Saki On 4 October 2014 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory Smith" by > another name? > > Please, ban anyon

Removing unwanted language files from texlive.

2014-10-04 Thread Sharon Kimble
I've installed texlive getting *everything* which also includes getting many language files that I am never going to use, such as cjk [japanese I think], etc. How do I go about removing them in a sane way please? Is it as simple as `sudo apt-get remove texlive-lang-*', and then just adding back th

Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory Smith" by another name? Please, ban anyone whose "discussion" descends to this low level. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/04 17:30 "Curt" : > > On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org < berenger.mo...@neutralite.org> wrote: > > > > > > I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares > > with "play on words" (this translation sounds strange... is it the > > correct one?) > > It's the

Pieces placed in juxtaposition.

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Collins
Pieces placed in juxtaposition: "Opensource is going mainstream in 2014" -RedHat CEO Syst__d presents a large attack surface (where as there are few ways to communicate with init etc), needlessly manages disc cryptography (amongst everything else, normal inits never cared one way or the other),

(Video) Discussion on lennart poettering, syst__d, sysv

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Collins
Discussion on lennart poettering, syst__d, sysv: youtu.be/2toVPMHRo8M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/trinity-8111a0c0-3501-45ee-9023-f0b9fde3e8a1-14

Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Collins
Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System" On google searches debian pages still turn up like this: Debian -- Mailing Lists - Debian -- The Universal Operating ... When you go to the page "The Universal Operating System" part is gone. A reflection of the problem with the scumba

Re: apt update problems

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 03 oct 14, 22:17:42, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > On 10/03/2014 03:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >It's important you attach them since your mailer seems to be a little > >bit too helpful in formating your mails and it's important to for us to > >see the same files as apt sees them. > > I t

Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares > with "play on words" (this translation sounds strange... is it the > correct one?) It's the correct one (jeu de mots). > Oh, and apart from that, for people (if t

Creating forlders in Gnome Shell 3.12 without Gnome Software

2014-10-04 Thread filorin
Hi there ! I spent too much time on the Internet to find how to create folders in Gnome Shell. At the beginning, there was a simple methode, using the gsettings option, by creating some folders with the name of categories (appeared in GS 3.8). But, it seems that since Gnome Software exists, and al