Kernel failure

2014-12-12 Thread golinux
On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/12/2014 06:30 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:07:03 -0500 Ric Moore wrote: So maybe we could consider a standard for "home computer" that it "runs on 110V with less than X amount of watts"? Except that for the greater part of the world it would be 220 Volts...

Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/12/2014 09:34 PM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Ric Moore Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:37:09 -0500 Is this in a desktop machine? Can you remove the board? If so, is there a window nearby? Then, open the window and throw that board out. :) Will aim for a recycling bin about 2 km distant.

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014, Brian wrote: > On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 22:04:56 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > On 20141211_1332+, Brian wrote: > > > > > > Multiply your experience by 10,000 or 100,000 similar accounts > > > and a picture begins to emerge and you can decide on how much > > > confidence

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/13 1:29 : > > Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : >> >> I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [5], >> didn't I? ;-/ > > > Indeed. > > >> My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from >> scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man

Re: Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/13 3:44 "Miles Fidelman" : > > So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus. > > I mean, 9p has been in the Linux Kernal for years (as compared to, say, kdbus), and it is actually used in som

Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-12 Thread peter
From: Ric Moore Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:37:09 -0500 > Is this in a desktop machine? > Can you remove the board? > If so, is there a window nearby? > Then, open the window and throw that board out. :) Will aim for a recycling bin about 2 km distant. > Older nVidia boards, ten times as capable a

Re: change subject of emails on ISP's IMAP server

2014-12-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/12/2014 at 08:53 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > When my ISP encounters an email that it cannot scan for viruses, it > prepends ***UNCHECKED*** to the subject. This occurs on every > encrypted email I receive. It's highly annoying, and the ISP refuses > to fix this. > > What tools can I use to det

Re: fsck on boot in Jessie

2014-12-12 Thread Jape Person
On 12/12/2014 09:08 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: After contributing some comments to the thread on aborting fsck during boot, I thought to try Andrei's /etc/rc.local suggestion. While rebooting, I discovered something quite unexpected (to me at least): The computer on which I did my test is running

fsck on boot in Jessie

2014-12-12 Thread Paul E Condon
After contributing some comments to the thread on aborting fsck during boot, I thought to try Andrei's /etc/rc.local suggestion. While rebooting, I discovered something quite unexpected (to me at least): The computer on which I did my test is running Jessie. Jessie was installed on it on Sept 26,

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/12/2014 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 22:04:56 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > >> On 20141211_1332+, Brian wrote: >>> >>> Multiply your experience by 10,000 or 100,000 similar accounts and a >>> picture begins to emerge and you can decide on how much confidence you >>> can

change subject of emails on ISP's IMAP server

2014-12-12 Thread Rob Owens
When my ISP encounters an email that it cannot scan for viruses, it prepends ***UNCHECKED*** to the subject. This occurs on every encrypted email I receive. It's highly annoying, and the ISP refuses to fix this. What tools can I use to detect this tag and delete it? I'd prefer to modify the sub

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread John Hasler
Also -4, -11, and +10. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/877fxwgyv0@thumper.dhh.gt.org

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: > You beat me to it! So by this definition, home computers only exist at -5 > GMT > (Eastern USA?) or -6 GMT. Or -7 or -8 or -9 or -10 or +9. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 22:04:56 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20141211_1332+, Brian wrote: > > > > Multiply your experience by 10,000 or 100,000 similar accounts and a > > picture begins to emerge and you can decide on how much confidence you > > can place in a conclusion based on the accum

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 December 2014 23:30:08 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:07:03 -0500 > > Ric Moore wrote: > > So maybe we could consider a standard for "home computer" that it "runs > > on 110V with less than X amount of watts"? > > Except that for the greater part of the world it would

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Ron
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:07:03 -0500 Ric Moore wrote: > So maybe we could consider a standard for "home computer" that it "runs > on 110V with less than X amount of watts"? Except that for the greater part of the world it would be 220 Volts... Cheers, Ron. -- History is t

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/12/2014 07:28 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 11.12.2014 20:38, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: So much metaphorical male ovine faeces. And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose their dubious opinions and classific

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/12/2014 07:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say : "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this typical use, or

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 December 2014 21:54:12 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Lisi Reisz [2014-12-12 10:00 +]: > > On Friday 12 December 2014 09:21:31 Jeffrey Needle wrote: > > > Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and > > > have just installed it. I have a question about th

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Lisi Reisz [2014-12-12 10:00 +]: > On Friday 12 December 2014 09:21:31 Jeffrey Needle wrote: > > Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and > > have just installed it. I have a question about the date display on the > > top panel. > > > > My understanding is that

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/12/2014 2:34 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 13:54:39 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 12/12/2014 12:07 PM, Brian wrote: >>> >>> The ^C method only postpones the fsck to another time. The issue of when >>> to run one remains. >> >> Which is fine. I can run it during the day when

Re: Bridging and VLANs?

2014-12-12 Thread Tim Nelson
>> The use case is that I need to bridge eth0 with eth0.2, allowing layer >> two traffic to pass seamlessly between interfaces, yet still leave >> eth0.3 in a usable state. The switch this system is connected to is >> for all intents and purposes outside of my control, which is the >> reason fo

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 13:54:39 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/12/2014 12:07 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > The ^C method only postpones the fsck to another time. The issue of when > > to run one remains. > > Which is fine. I can run it during the day when I'm not under a > deadline. The problem

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/12/2014 12:07 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 09:36:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 12/12/2014 6:02 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>> >>> > This means fsck will never run because I don't use >>> > the laptop outside of those times. >>> >>> Plan to u

Re: KDE's Dolphin too slow, with wheezy and NFS mounted home

2014-12-12 Thread Burhan Hanoglu
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Joao Roscoe wrote: > > I'm not a big dolphin user, so this is not day-after-day annoying issue., > but... > Whenever I launch dolphin, the machine collapses to a crawl. After closing > dolphin, everything gets back to normal. While dolphin is running, System > Moni

Re: Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus. I mean, 9p has been in the Linux Kernal for years (as compared to, say, kdbus), and it is actually used in some interesting places (erlang-on-xen, l

KDE's Dolphin too slow, with wheezy and NFS mounted home

2014-12-12 Thread Joao Roscoe
I'm not a big dolphin user, so this is not day-after-day annoying issue., but... Whenever I launch dolphin, the machine collapses to a crawl. After closing dolphin, everything gets back to normal. While dolphin is running, System Monitor show both CPU cores at 100% load. As soon as I close dolphin,

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-12 Thread Jape Person
On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Jape Person writes: On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top le

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 09:36:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/12/2014 6:02 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Jerry Stuckle writes: > > > > > This means fsck will never run because I don't use > > > the laptop outside of those times. > > > > Plan to use it outside of these times as a mainte

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 10:11:53 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 07:48:16PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 14:02:52 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > > > On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > For less work to set up than the previous method you wan

Re: Migrating GTK+ project to windows

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.11.2014 07:35, Kevin O'Gorman a écrit : On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: Le Mar 18 novembre 2014 16:51, Kevin O'Gorman a écrit : > I have a project that I'd like to migrate to Windows.  I'll likely be > using Windows 8.1. GTK+ is portable, or at least that what

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [5], didn't I? ;-/ Indeed. My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man's sockets largely left out, I think. I

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20141211_1257+0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: > > > > But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot > > and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. > > I just thought of a different approach, using the fact t

KVM guest display

2014-12-12 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, I have created a Jessie guest on my Wheezy box, in accordance with various howtos found on the web. So far, it seems to be working satisfactorily, except for the display. My wheezy host has a 1920x1080 DVI display, but the guest seems to insist that it's a 1280x1024 VGA. Running randr on the

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Atomic in the original word meaning can't be cut, and stopping is a form of > cutting. Rolling back is a strategy to permit stopping an atomic operation, > but I am unsure thi can be done always. The fact that *some* actions need to be atomic doesn't prevent interrupting various (other) long-ru

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/12 23:30 : > Le 12.12.2014 14:55, Joel Rees a écrit : >> 2014/12/12 21:08 : >> > Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : >> >> On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Plus, it's not portable >> >>> (anyone have seen dbus on windows? n

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread detwyad7
> ... clicking on the date on the top panel should display my > appointments from Evolution... Is this documented? Please provide a reference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Jape Person writes: > On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU writes: >> >>> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: > So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon > in the top left corner of its wi

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:58, claude juif a écrit : 2014-12-12 13:47 GMT+01:00 : Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say :  "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:00, Martin Read a écrit : Notably, there is neither a billing framework, nor a place to put one. True. But it would not be that hard to adapt it. Let's try a basic algo: #echo my.paying.repo >> /etc/apt/sources.list #apt-get update #mybillingscrip PackageIWantToPayFor -> ask

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/12/2014 6:02 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > > > This means fsck will never run because I don't use > > the laptop outside of those times. > > Plan to use it outside of these times as a maintenance call. Or check > the discussion for a nice suggestion to make the "f

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.12.2014 17:49, Marty a écrit : As for what is growing, cloud computing, so they can look at our data and keep us safe. Cloud computing was here before the buzz-word. Cloud computing is composed by: _ mail server + web MUA _ FTP server + web interf

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 dec 14, 12:41:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Oh, sorry, I just forgot that... linux is not desktop ready, right :) (day of troll here ;) ) but more seriously, currently, the apt/rpm/etc idea is being adopted by other desktop systems, the ones which have

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:55, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/12/12 21:08 : > > > > Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > >> On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] wrote: >>> >>> Plus, it's not portable >>> (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : I.E. "Who is responsible for the integrity of *MY* system?" The correct answer is the proverbial "Me, Myself, and I." It is most definitely not an individual nor group whom I've never met. There is most definitely a need for such systems as the va

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 December 2014 11:43:41 Ric Moore wrote: > Is it just me or on an ext4 file system when was the last time anyone > had an fsck? 2 days ago. Automatic. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

multihomed server with ipv6

2014-12-12 Thread lists
Hi all, I’m trying to setup a multi-homed server with dual stack networking. I’ve setup static adressing for both NICs for ipv4 and ipv6 like this: # The primary LAN network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 network

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/12 21:08 : > > > > Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > >> On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> >>> Plus, it's not portable >>> (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too) >>> unlike sockets. >> >> >> From http://www

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 11.12.2014 18:21, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not *BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactO

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/11 19:39 "Andrei POPESCU" : > > On Jo, 11 dec 14, 18:16:05, Joel Rees wrote: > > > > Odd. The last time I booted my wheezy-by-install system, it did an > > automatic fsck. > > > > I did nothing in particular to enable that. > > > > I think you are reading things into the documentation that

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Read
On 12/12/14 11:41, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: The app store concept exists in Debian since ages! Not really. Notably, there is neither a billing framework, nor a place to put one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread claude juif
2014-12-12 13:47 GMT+01:00 : > > > Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : > >> If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say >> : >> >> "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. >> >> This is how i understand typical home computer today. >> > > Is this typical use, or averag

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:14, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 11:35:03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: So, you have to choose between: _ having a daemon running everytime, and an application which needs to listen at it's socket everytime (I guess it's how dbus works? If someone have

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
claude juif wrote: If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say : "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say :  "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this typical use, or average use? :p Because I would add, to typical, office suit

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:37, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 13:32:56, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Plus, there is also the history: everyone knows what Windows looks like, even if they do not knows what is Windows. So, things are a little more complicated than the current pre-

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 13:32:56, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Plus, there is also the history: everyone knows what Windows looks like, > even if they do not knows what is Windows. > > So, things are a little more complicated than the current pre-install thing. > Also, there was an effort f

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:19, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 12:41:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Oh, sorry, I just forgot that... linux is not desktop ready, right :) (day of troll here ;) ) but more seriously, currently, the apt/rpm/etc idea is being adopted by other desktop sy

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 15:18:12, Bob Proulx wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > When Testing is released as Stable a new name will be chosen for the > > > next release and that new name will become Testing. > > > > Minor nitpick: the names are already known, the release after Jes

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 20:38, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: So much metaphorical male ovine faeces. And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is, and, what has been, and, of what should

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 12:41:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Oh, sorry, I just forgot that... linux is not desktop ready, right :) (day > of troll here ;) ) but more seriously, currently, the apt/rpm/etc idea is > being adopted by other desktop systems, the ones which have users saying > that

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 11:35:03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > So, you have to choose between: > _ having a daemon running everytime, and an application which needs to > listen at it's socket everytime (I guess it's how dbus works? If someone > have any clue about this part of internal, I wo

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 19:16:03, Reco wrote: > > Note that Ubuntu limits sudo-allows-all configuration to the first > created user by default. As does Debian (if a root password isn't set). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Plus, it's not portable (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too) unlike sockets. From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ D-Bus

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Plus, it's not portable > (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too) > unlike sockets. From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ D-Bus is very portable to any Linux or UNIX flavor, an

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
Is it just me or on an ext4 file system when was the last time anyone had an fsck? It's been ages since I last had one. Inquiring minds, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former m

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 05:05, Marty a écrit : On 12/10/2014 10:16 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: My wife, daughter and I each login to a separate vt. It makes no real difference who logs on to which vt, but usually we each log in to a particular vt. Space is the reason for a single computer. If I can ge

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.12.2014 09:59, Curt a écrit : On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby wrote: So, what "up to date" operating system is, now? You cut his link to plan9; maybe that's it. Can plan9 fully use 64 bit archs, modern GPUs and other things like that? By modern, I mean, less than 5 years old... On wiki

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.12.2014 17:49, Marty a écrit : As for what is growing, cloud computing, so they can look at our data and keep us safe. Cloud computing was here before the buzz-word. Cloud computing is composed by: _ mail server + web MUA _ FTP server + web interface _ wtf server + wtf web interface

Re: C++ compiler g++-4.9

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.12.2014 13:23, Nick Mpallas a écrit : Hi guys, I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will the g++ compiler wi

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Jerry Stuckle writes: > This means fsck will never run because I don't use > the laptop outside of those times. Plan to use it outside of these times as a maintenance call. Or check the discussion for a nice suggestion to make the "fsck on max mount or time exceeded" work to do what you want an

RE: C++ compiler g++-4.9

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 13:20, Bonno Bloksma a écrit : Hi, On 12/10/2014 01:23 PM, Nick Mpallas wrote: I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by

Re: automation of xrandr

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.11.2014 15:58, pe...@easthope.ca a écrit : https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 helped to establish a usable multi-screen configuration. Now what is the recommendation to automate? Put the xrandr command in .profile? Sorry for delay, lot of mails btw. Personally, I use .x

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 11:00, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Friday 12 December 2014 09:21:31 Jeffrey Needle wrote: Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and have just installed it. I have a question about the date display on the top panel. My understanding is that clicking on

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread claude juif
If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say : "Browsers, Mails" and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. 2014-12-12 10:10 GMT+01:00 Lisi Reisz : > On Friday 12 December 2014 08:35:35 Richard Owlett wrote: > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > On 1

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 06:13, seeker5528 a écrit : On 12/11/2014 8:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit : If this proves feasible, that's what I hope to do. I just want to know if anyone thinks it's a good idea, before I commit time and resources. My kno

Re: [Preseed] Partman expert recipe Error

2014-12-12 Thread claude juif
2014-12-12 2:58 GMT+01:00 Bob Proulx : > claude juif wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I've read this doc > > http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt > where it > > says : > > > > is the maximal size for the partition, i.e. a limit > > size such that there is no sense to

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 07:48:16PM +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 14:02:52 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > > For less work to set up than the previous method you want to take a look > > > at > > > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 December 2014 09:21:31 Jeffrey Needle wrote: > Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and > have just installed it. I have a question about the date display on the > top panel. > > My understanding is that clicking on the date on the top panel should > displ

New user question

2014-12-12 Thread Jeffrey Needle
Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and have just installed it. I have a question about the date display on the top panel. My understanding is that clicking on the date on the top panel should display my appointments from Evolution, but it's not working. I have lots

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 20:27, Martin Read a écrit : On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote: There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer and OS. It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g. Samsung, LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite enthusiasti

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 18:21, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not *BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build a single us

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-12 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: >> users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot >> time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination. > > The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt > various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event) > d

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 December 2014 08:35:35 Richard Owlett wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: > > On 12/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote: > The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home > computer used

Re: VPN IPSec (Cisco vpnc)

2014-12-12 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Thursday 11 December 2014 19:38:52, Hajder Rabiee wrote : > Ok thank you for your reply. > > I'll have a second round with the IT admins. The question remains if the > pre shared key is the same as the group password? If not, how is it > specified in vpnc? My answer was unclear. The group nam

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
Bret Busby wrote: On 12/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote: The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home computer used today?" As I'm the OP, I should know. If we had trouble understanding it, then yo