Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 20:29:04 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Does this server take 2.5 megabyte pictures? I'll take them with my > Nikon L100 camera as I go. Thats the size of its usual jpeg output, > per picture. Gene, Please don't post a number of 2.5M pictures here if you can avoid it, even if

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/03/2015 10:52 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote: /home is just a directory on / here since the broken installer will not do it any other way. I

was firefox-37, where to put now moving home partition

2015-04-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/03/2015 10:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Is booting with the single option on the kernels command line insufficient for this scenario? Gene, when you first boot, boot into rescue mode and login as root. now /home is nicely idle, after you have installed the 3rd new drive and have partitione

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): >> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader >> > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debi

Re: md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150403_2316+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where > to > find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I > just can't find them. > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? > > Thanks > Lis

Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting David Wright (deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk): > > I'm one of the many who use .home > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home-00 > and this paper points out that there's an awful lot of leakage onto > the Internet. > > I think I/we ought to be using .local > http://tools.ie

Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 14:29:49 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Brian wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > The debian-installer will set things up right with an entry such as > > > > this one. > > > > > > > > 127.0.1.1 foo.example.com foo > > > > > > If

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > On Friday 03 April 2015 18:09:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 22:39:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Sorry Brian, that is ***generally*** shorthand for "equivalent" (my > > > stars) > > > > No - it is another Gene special. > > > > Lisi > > T

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 20:22:18 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Usually less than 4 megabytes of free space left at the end of the > > disk with a used 4k per sector disk on the cable, but could be zero > > for a 512 byte per sector used

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 18:38:06 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 17:39:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 16:37:51 Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 15:37:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: > > > > > Either there

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 05:39:32PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Usually less than 4 megabytes of free space left at the end of the disk > with a used 4k per sector disk on the cable, but could be zero for a 512 > byte per sector used disk since there is not normally an alignment > problem with t

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > > installed on a system, and,

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Gene Heskett writes: > The abbreviation 'equ' has been in common use on this side of the pond > in technical literature such as service manuals for at least 65 years > that I personally know of. I've been reading technical literature on this side of the pond for at least 50 years and I've never se

Re: Purge by Default

2015-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > Is there a way to "--purge" by default when using apt-get or aptitude? You can put the command in /etc/apt/apt.conf. The syntax is really ugly, though. man apt.conf -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 18:19:09 Bob Proulx wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Brian wrote: > > > > > Either there is FREE SPACE or there isn't. If there is none > > > > > you cannot install anything to that disk. What did you get? > > > > > You didn't

Re: wget vs curl (was ... Re: debian 8)

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 12:37:56 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > > Come on guys, what's so difficult about trimming your posts. > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 08:22:11PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > If it does not help - download the page with wget or curl (last one is > > preferrable for this) > > Wha

wget vs curl (was ... Re: debian 8)

2015-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
Come on guys, what's so difficult about trimming your posts. On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 08:22:11PM +0300, Reco wrote: > If it does not help - download the page with wget or curl (last one is > preferrable for this) What can curl do that wget can't do? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers wil

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 18:09:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 22:39:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Sorry Brian, that is ***generally*** shorthand for "equivalent" (my > > stars) > > No - it is another Gene special. > > Lisi Two great countries, Lisi, separated by a common language. The

Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 14:29:49 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > The debian-installer will set things up right with an entry such as > > > this one. > > > > > > 127.0.1.1 foo.example.com foo > > > > If 'Domain name' is blank you get '127.0.1.1 foo'. > > Ah, y

Re: Purge by Default

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 23:50:19 Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to "--purge" by default when using apt-get or aptitude? > I often browse the apt repo and install various things I find (mostly > games) to discover it, then remove them in a few hours/days/weeks. I'm > afraid

Re: Purge by Default

2015-04-03 Thread Glenn English
On Apr 3, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > Is there a way to "--purge" by default when using apt-get or aptitude? How about a little shell script? -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 23:35:56 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:16:45 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me > > where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would > > be great. I just can't find the

Purge by Default

2015-04-03 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
Hi all, Is there a way to "--purge" by default when using apt-get or aptitude? I often browse the apt repo and install various things I find (mostly games) to discover it, then remove them in a few hours/days/weeks. I'm afraid of leaving tons of config files laying on my system. Thanks, Steve p

Re: md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 23:27:06 Bob Proulx wrote: > Here is how I arrived there.  I know the sums are stored next to the > isos in the same directory.  I right-clicked on the link.  Then I > pasted it into the location bar of the browser.  Then I removed the > filename portion backing up to the di

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 17:39:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 16:37:51 Brian wrote: > > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 15:37:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: > > > > Either there is FREE SPACE or there isn't. If there is none you > > >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/03/2015 at 06:32 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > If you want to have multiple partitions, and you don't have free > space to create them in, then - as Brian said - you need to specify > which existing partitions to delete, and then create the needed > partitions (or let let the installer create th

Re: md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:16:45 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where > to > find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I > just can't find them. > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/03/2015 at 05:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 16:37:51 Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 15:37:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>> On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: If it were me and there was no free space, I would delete that partition a

Re: md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi Reisz wrote: > Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell > me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL > would be great. I just can't find them. > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? That is a little difficult! But here they a

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Gene Heskett wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Brian wrote: > > > > Either there is FREE SPACE or there isn't. If there is none you > > > > cannot install anything to that disk. What did you get? You didn't > > > > say, so now we are left wondering how you dealt with that > > > >

md5sums and shasums

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 22:39:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > Sorry Brian, that is ***generally*** shorthand for "equivalent" (my stars) No - it is another Gene special. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 16:42:56 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 20:41:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > but this now leaves me wondering just > > what it was that I did wrong, at least 10 times in a row with 2 > > different wheezy install images. > > Now that is progress. If you really wan

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 16:37:51 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 15:37:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: > > > Either there is FREE SPACE or there isn't. If there is none you > > > cannot install anything to that disk. What did you get? You didn't

Re: LVM/btrfs - Was: Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Petter Adsen wrote: > > > Resizing just works, as long as you don't forget the correct order for > > > changing the filesystem and the volume. I.e. > > > > > > 1) Enlarge - volume first, filesystem last. > > > 2) Reduce - filesystem first, volume last. I am compelled to note that re

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > installed on a system, and, to be selectable options for the > bootloader? > > --

Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
David Wright wrote: > I must investigate nice/renice to prevent its taking over. And also check out 'ionice' too in addition to nice/renice. It is useful in this problem space when dealing with I/O bandwidth and priority. And in the problem space of 'nice' there is another very interesting progr

Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > I'm not so unlucky as Bob appears to be (he says, touching wood), but > > I think Bob came to his conclusion during a previous period of > instability in Debian, It could also be that I was unlucky in my purchase of cheap USB disk enclosures. Which

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 20:41:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > but this now leaves me wondering just > what it was that I did wrong, at least 10 times in a row with 2 > different wheezy install images. Now that is progress. If you really want another go we could perhaps get somewhere from there. Lisi

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com): > > But the page contains mostly correct (as of jessie) details about kernel > version, libc6 and other important libraries and programs. > > Do you know, by chance, what's the correct way to report a bug against > a Debian website? This page is apparently mi

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 15:37:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: > > > > Either there is FREE SPACE or there isn't. If there is none you cannot > > install anything to that disk. What did you get? You didn't say, so > > now we are left wondering how you dea

Re: Debian and FQDN lookup

2015-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > The debian-installer will set things up right with an entry such as > > this one. > > > > 127.0.1.1 foo.example.com foo > > If 'Domain name' is blank you get '127.0.1.1 foo'. Ah, yes, I had left that out. We had discussed that point in a previous email. H

Re: zfs, autofs dependencies

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Mimiko (vbv...@gmail.com): > On 01.04.2015 17:55, Reco wrote: > > No, the problem is related to the Debian indeed. As ZFS is used as an > > LVM here, so you might as well replace those fancy/dev/zvol/* with > > something conventional, and the problem will still remain. I'm as yet unconvinc

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-03, Bret Busby wrote: > >> I guess the sharpness and brightness, have dulled for me, over the >> years (too many years). >> > > And Cloris Leachman never got on Lassie. Sheesh. > I did not claim that she did. I merely cited a published passage of text tha

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 15:19:26 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 14:49:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 13:26:32 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:41:05 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > If that isn't broken, its a matter for you and me to argue about > >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 15:14:51 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 19:51:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 13:30:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:58:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > The installer IS NOT BROKEN. And someone did give you step by > > >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 14:50:04 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 13:52:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 11:01:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Go ahead Brian, I'll wait right here while you do that. > > > > > > I

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 14:30:05 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:39:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:25:01 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Is there a local Linux User Group in your area? You could mention > > > this, and I bet there would be someone wh

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 14:49:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 13:26:32 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:41:05 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > If that isn't broken, its a matter for you and me to argue about > > > over a couple hand coolers, on me of course. :)

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 19:51:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 13:30:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:58:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > The installer IS NOT BROKEN. And someone did give you step by > > > > step instructions, which you ignored. > > > > > > No, the

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 14:29:37 The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/03/2015 at 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: > >> 1. Choose 'Manual' on the 'Partition disks' page. > >> > >> 2. Choose a disk and hightlight 'FREE SPACE'. Press the ENTER key. > >> > >> 3.

Re: free cloud

2015-04-03 Thread Dan Purgert
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 15:12:34 +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 12:55:12 + (UTC) > Dan Purgert wrote: > > Buy an extra disk and start playing :) > > Petter now that you mention it ... /dev/sdc is 200G and pretty empty ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 13:30:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:58:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > The installer IS NOT BROKEN. And someone did give you step by > > > step instructions, which you ignored. > > > > No, they were printed and followed to the letter, at least twice. > >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 13:52:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: > > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 11:01:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Go ahead Brian, I'll wait right here while you do that. > > > > It is only the partitioning which is giving a problem. > > >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 13:26:32 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:41:05 Gene Heskett wrote: > > If that isn't broken, its a matter for you and me to argue about > > over a couple hand coolers, on me of course. :) > > No, it isn't broken. You have trouble with it. So you need help.

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 13:05:31 Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 17:41:44 +0800 > > > > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 03/04/2015, Pol Hallen wrote: > >> > I read that at 25 april > >> > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016. >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:39:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:25:01 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > Is there a local Linux User Group in your area? You could mention > > this, and I bet there would be someone who would be keen to see what > > the trouble is, i.e. sort it

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/03/2015 at 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: >> 1. Choose 'Manual' on the 'Partition disks' page. >> >> 2. Choose a disk and hightlight 'FREE SPACE'. Press the ENTER key. >> >> 3. Create a new partition. ENTER. Specify size. ENTER. Choose >> 'L

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 11:01:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Go ahead Brian, I'll wait right here while you do that. > > It is only the partitioning which is giving a problem. > Re-reading this again... > 1. Choose 'Manual' on the 'Partition disks'

Re: re-set time/date

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 07:02:05 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:35PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:24:42PM +0200, Racla Grillyz wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, it worked like a charme. > > > Just want to point out that I checked on t

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-03, Bret Busby wrote: > I guess the sharpness and brightness, have dulled for me, over the > years (too many years). > And Cloris Leachman never got on Lassie. Sheesh. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: re-set time/date

2015-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:35PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:24:42PM +0200, Racla Grillyz wrote: > > > > Thanks, it worked like a charme. > > Just want to point out that I checked on the > > official debian manual/reference from the official website, > > and I

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:32:47 Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 11:01:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Go ahead Brian, I'll wait right here while you do that. > > It is only the partitioning which is giving a problem. > > 1. Choose 'Manual' on the 'Partition disks' page. Check > 2. Choose a

Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be installed on a system, and, to be selectable options for the bootloader? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know wh

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Michael Biebl (em...@michaelbiebl.de): > Am 03.04.2015 um 19:16 schrieb Michael Biebl: > > Am 03.04.2015 um 19:09 schrieb Erwan David: > > >> "systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 8" > >> > >> What does this mean ? If we want stable, and no tech preview, no part > >> of it

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 01:10:21 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> > > > On 03/04/2015, Pol Hallen wrote: >> >> > > > > I read that at 25 april >> >> > > > > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html) >> >> > > > > should be available l

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Apr 2015 at 01:26:35 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/04/2015, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 17:41:44 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> What are the expected differences between Debian 7 and Debian 8? > >> > >> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interface

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:25:01 Chris Bannister wrote: [...] > > > > > > > > I know that it has been said before, but there may be people new > > > > to the list reading this. I used the same "broken" installer, > > > > and my /home is separate from /. > > > > > > > > Lisi > > > > > > I appreciat

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > I knew it would degenerate to this. Back then I asked for howto's, got > and printed several, all of which failed to produce the desired results, > I assume because steps done were not all recorded. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg0015

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 01:05:31 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > > https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/ppc64el/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html > > > >> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interface? > > > > From the above: > > > > "If you want to keep an interface closer to

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 17:58:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > > The installer IS NOT BROKEN. And someone did give you step by step > > instructions, which you ignored. > > No, they were printed and followed to the letter, at least twice. > > > Also ask you for step by step > > information on what you had

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 17:41:05 Gene Heskett wrote: > If that isn't broken, its a matter for you and me to argue about over a > couple hand coolers, on me of course. :) No, it isn't broken. You have trouble with it. So you need help. I have no problem with that. But accept help. Answer ques

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/04/2015, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 17:41:44 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> What are the expected differences between Debian 7 and Debian 8? >> >> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interface? > > Would gnome-session-flashback suit you? > I have no idea. In

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 19:16:30 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 03.04.2015 um 19:09 schrieb Erwan David: > > Le 03/04/2015 11:58, Pol Hallen a écrit : > >>> What are the expected differences between Debian 7 and Debian 8? > >>> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interfac

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.04.2015 um 19:16 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 03.04.2015 um 19:09 schrieb Erwan David: >> "systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 8" >> >> What does this mean ? If we want stable, and no tech preview, no part >> of it is installed ? > > It means, that you were pointed at the w

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 01:10:21 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > >> > > > On 03/04/2015, Pol Hallen wrote: > >> > > > > I read that at 25 april > >> > > > > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html) > >> > > > > should be available latest debian version. > >> > > > > > >>

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.04.2015 um 19:09 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 03/04/2015 11:58, Pol Hallen a écrit : >>> What are the expected differences between Debian 7 and Debian 8? >>> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interface? >> >> no problems about differences (but I hate systemd). >> >> I've

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/04/2015, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:17:37PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 13:08:29 +0300 >>> Reco wrote: >>> >>> > Hi. >>> > >>> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 11:49:30AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> > > On Fri,

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Erwan David
Le 03/04/2015 11:58, Pol Hallen a écrit : >> What are the expected differences between Debian 7 and Debian 8? >> Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic" interface? > > no problems about differences (but I hate systemd). > > I've many (and many and many) productions server (with co

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/04/2015, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:17:37PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 13:08:29 +0300 >> Reco wrote: >> >> > Hi. >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 11:49:30AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >> > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 17:41:44 +0800 >> > > Bret Busby

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 17:41:44 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 03/04/2015, Pol Hallen wrote: >> > I read that at 25 april >> > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html) >> > should be available latest debian version. >> > >> >> >> W

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:16:33 Lisi Reisz wrote: [...]> > The installer IS NOT BROKEN. And someone did give you step by step > instructions, which you ignored. No, they were printed and followed to the letter, at least twice. > Also ask you for step by step > information on what you had done

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/04/2015, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 11:49:30AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 17:41:44 +0800 >> Bret Busby wrote: >> >> > On 03/04/2015, Pol Hallen wrote: >> > > I read that at 25 april >> > > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg0

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:03:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 15:35:37 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > It's not quite this simple if /home isn't a separate partition to > > > begin with, but is just a directory under the root partition, > > > which I believe Gene stated is the case he's de

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Apr 2015 at 11:01:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Go ahead Brian, I'll wait right here while you do that. It is only the partitioning which is giving a problem. 1. Choose 'Manual' on the 'Partition disks' page. 2. Choose a disk and hightlight 'FREE SPACE'. Press the ENTER key. 3. Cre

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/03/2015 at 10:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 09:36:33 The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 04/03/2015 at 09:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> /home is a mount point, not a partition. You don't mount >>> anything over it, you mount something on it. So you mount your >>> new home p

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:28:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 Apr 2015 at 20:37:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > /home is just a directory on / here since the broken >

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 16:31:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > And I > cannot understand why that is not possible with this installer. It is. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 16:01:05 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 10:23:58 Brian wrote: > [...] > > Here we go again... > > > Why bother? The ISO from LinuxCNC installs within 15 minutes and will > > provide separate / and /home partitions and a swap partition of any > > chosen size.

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 12:01:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 15:31:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And don't forget, that when > > the cp is done, to look at it with an ls -l to make sure I still own > > my stuff. > > That is the point of the p in -Rpu. It preserves permissions. > I'l

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 16:53:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 11:38:02 David Wright wrote: > > Quoting The Wanderer (wande...@fastmail.fm): > > > On 04/03/2015 at 09:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:03:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >> But you mentioned cle

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 15:35:37 Gene Heskett wrote: > > It's not quite this simple if /home isn't a separate partition to > > begin with, but is just a directory under the root partition, which I > > believe Gene stated is the case he's dealing with. > > That is correct, the installers partitioner

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 April 2015 15:31:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > And don't forget, that when > the cp is done, to look at it with an ls -l to make sure I still own my > stuff.   That is the point of the p in -Rpu. It preserves permissions. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: debian 8

2015-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-03, Petter Adsen wrote: > It will bring you an improved version of the traditional panel. You can > still edit the panel to add more applets, by using the hidden alt+right > click combination. " > The alt+right click combination is hidden? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 11:38:02 David Wright wrote: > Quoting The Wanderer (wande...@fastmail.fm): > > On 04/03/2015 at 09:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:03:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> But you mentioned cleaning out /home when mounting another > > >> partition over i

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting The Wanderer (wande...@fastmail.fm): > On 04/03/2015 at 09:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 03 April 2015 14:03:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >> But you mentioned cleaning out /home when mounting another > >> partition over it, but I'd need a tutorial on how to do that since > >> t

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 10:52:06 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > /home is just a directory on / here since the broken > > > > installer wi

Re: re-set time/date

2015-04-03 Thread Racla Grillyz
> Nothing is missing. But we all miss things at some time or the other. :) > 9.4.5. System and hardware time My fault :) Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debi

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 April 2015 10:23:58 Brian wrote: [...] Here we go again... > Why bother? The ISO from LinuxCNC installs within 15 minutes and will > provide separate / and /home partitions and a swap partition of any > chosen size. That's when done properly, of course. Compare that with > the convo

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): > > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > /home is just a directory on / here since the broken > > > installer will not do it any other way. > > > > I know that it has been

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