Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 07:39:58PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > > What fellow users think? He did ask to be CC'd, your post has fallen on deaf ears. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are be

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the corrections. To be honest, the install to test this was the first install using tasks I've done in a very, very long time. /peter Am 27.10.2015 um 22:51 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote:

Re: Installer partitioning problem (was: System Dorked -- Help! (Interim solution!))

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 07:34:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2015 05:55:10 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > In article Gene Heskett > wrote: > > > On Monday 26 October 2015 02:29:04 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > > I don't understand why you can't. I can create (and did) > >

Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume

On 10/28/2015 12:39 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/27/2015 06:10 PM, David Christensen wrote: You are free to study the source code and help the OP solve his problem. Sorry -- that sounds harsh. I say "study the source code" because the source code is the canonical definition of what

Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume

On 10/27/2015 06:10 PM, David Christensen wrote: You are free to study the source code and help the OP solve his problem. Sorry -- that sounds harsh. I say "study the source code" because the source code is the canonical definition of what is actually going on. If I can understand the sourc

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:48:06 +0100 Sven Arvidsson wrote: >On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test >> within the confines of a VM I can say that >> 1) I can still access the TTYs and >> 2) the OO

Re: RealTek RTL8192EU drivers

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:24:07 -0400 (EDT), Jose Martinez wrote: > > I recently purchased a USB wifi adapter which has a RealTek RTL8192EU > chip (ID 0bda:818b) in it. A CD came with the wifi adapter which had > drivers for Windows (which worked properly) and purports to have linux > drivers as we

Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume

On 10/27/2015 03:50 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Lots of replies on a subject you don't know the answer for My view is that of an independent consultant who must deal with the harsh realities of time and money via contracts. I responded because the OP made it sound like he was in a similar si

RealTek RTL8192EU drivers

I recently purchased a USB wifi adapter which has a RealTek RTL8192EU chip (ID 0bda:818b) in it. A CD came with the wifi adapter which had drivers for Windows (which worked properly) and purports to have linux drivers as well. Of course the linux driver has to be compiled. Following their instru

Re: switch back to gnome 3.16

On 10/27/2015 04:56 PM, Floris wrote: Yes, unfortunately is the combination of Nvidia, Gnome 3.18 and a multi seat setup not working. So I try to figure out where the problem is. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802335 I'd suggest you separate the Gnome problem from the nVidia

Release-Critical Bugs Graph for the Past Year

Hi all, I am now in a habit of checking the release-critical graph before doing upgrade (I don't upgrade very often) along with apt-list-bugs. We have a bug graphs for the past month, all history and the default. Do we also have one for the past year? Inferring from the month link then trying sim

Re: systemd gpsd does not start on boot

On 10/26/2015 01:09 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 26.10.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Philippe Clérié: On 10/25/2015 01:52 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 25.10.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Philippe Clérié: On 10/23/2015 05:33 PM, Philippe Clérié wrote: I'm running raspbian jessy on a rpi2 with an Adafruit GPS bo

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

On 15-10-27 14:01:09, Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > > Hi, > Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most security and > the best privacy and which You recommned for debian users? (KDE, XFCE, GNOME > etc.)? > What is your threat model? -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 12:59 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, > > Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your > computer. Have you tried XFCE or K

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 18:59:59 Glenn English wrote: > And thanks, Lisi, for forwarding things for me before I noticed that Abou > wasn't subscribed. You're welcome - I have been left rather noticing such things after that latest thread. ;-) I have been remiss in the past. Lisi

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

Forwarded to unsubscribed OP Lisi On Tuesday 27 October 2015 17:07:47 Curt wrote: > On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's > > a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20 > > > > Before filing a bug, you, or a

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:01:09 Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > Hi, > Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most security and > the best privacy and which You recommned for debian users? (KDE, XFCE, > GNOME etc.)? Speaking personally, and we will all do that, and you will get a

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

Forwarded to unsubscribed OP Lisi On Tuesday 27 October 2015 19:53:11 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +, Curt wrote: > > Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th. > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380 > > > > Sounds similar to the OP's problem

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > (Iceweasel is the > default for Debian for example) It's not. It's desktop dependant. Lisi

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > as Debian by default installs > Iceweasel, not Epiphany. Do oyu mean "Gnome by default" etc.? Debian certainly doesn't. Lisi

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

I agree with several other comments with regards to security not being necessarily related to a specific desktop environment. In my opinion I think the best security comes from using both a Linux distribution and a desktop environment that you (or the admin) is very familiar with and understand

Re: switch back to gnome 3.16

Op Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:12:16 +0100 schreef moxalt : On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:39:06 +0100, Floris wrote: Op Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:20:11 +0100 schreef Floris : > What is the easiest way to switch back to gnome 3.16, now both testing > and unstable have 3.18? > I know I can add all the dependencie

Re: Regarding Hotspot configuration

On 10/24/2015 01:26 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 14:38 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: I'm not sure about that, I just told n-m to create a new network, and it did ad-hoc even though my card supports AP mode. Can you check in iwconfig to confirm it's actually an AP? iwconfig does

Re: Regarding Hotspot configuration

On 10/23/2015 08:56 PM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: Got it! My wireless driver is "wl", and "iw list" shows that it doesn't supports "ap" mode. Also, I have browsed Linux_Drivers_page and Wikipedia_article

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +, Curt wrote: > Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380 > > Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's > a specific article on reuters.com--go figure). > > Nvidia video card

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test > within the confines of a VM I can say that > 1) I can still access the TTYs and > 2) the OOM killer removes the offending process as soon as both RAM > and S

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your computer. Have you tried XFCE or KDE? Or, just to check, lynx from a genuine command line terminal?

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:01 +0100, Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > Hi, > Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most > security and the best privacy and which You recommned for debian > users? (KDE, XFCE, GNOME etc.)? Hand picking components and evaluating them on their own is probab

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's > a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20 > > Before filing a bug, you, or anyone else who can reproduce the bug need > to investigate. Somebody filed a bug report on

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

Security and privacy are not products. No software provides them as a finished product ready for consumption. Software is just a tool used in achieving either. One must also ask and answer: security against _what_?. The habits of the user are just as important, and very often they are the weake

Re: Backup solutions without reinventig the wheel these days

Jonathan Dowland [2015-10-27 10:53:25Z] wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 09:10:54PM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> I suggest "rsync --link-dest" too. Symbolic links are a nice way to >> store the previous (and currently newest) backup destination >> directory. So maybe like this in the backup dest

Re: aptitude loses the lists after "update"ing while offline

On 10/27/15, Stefan Monnier wrote: > If I do > >aptitude update > > while my proxy is down (or when I'm offline), the previous package lists > are apparently gone, so after that, any aptitude command will tell me > things like: > ># aptitude install foo >E: The value 'testing' is inval

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015, Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > > Hi, > Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most > security and the best privacy and which You recommned for debian > users? (KDE, XFCE, GNOME etc.)? My opinion is that no one desktop environment is any more secure than the ne

aptitude loses the lists after "update"ing while offline

If I do aptitude update while my proxy is down (or when I'm offline), the previous package lists are apparently gone, so after that, any aptitude command will tell me things like: # aptitude install foo E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

I hope this discussion should continue, rather than conclude, as more views means more purity in idea. As far as security is concerned, it is the Debian OS which determines policies more than the DE. Also, I would like to categorize them as under: KDE : Heavy, high-end graphics, consumes resources

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

I prefer xfce but why just comes down to preference, it feels cleaner, faster and simpler, but that's just me Only way to find out is to give them all a go (at least on livecd) Privacy is the same across all, although gnome3 has some extra gui for some preferences for wiping temp files i think, (

Debian Desktop Environment

Hi, Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most security and the best privacy and which You recommned for debian users? (KDE, XFCE, GNOME etc.)?

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test within the confines of a VM I can say that 1) I can still access the TTYs and 2) the OOM killer removes the offending process as soon as both RAM and Swap is full. Since your Sw

Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 08:48:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > I don't know -- a sufficiently skilled person (or group) might be able to do > it. I'm not such a person, and don't know of any. Try STFW for an LVM > project or community. Lots of replies on a subject you don't know the answer

Re: Backup solutions without reinventig the wheel these days

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 09:10:54PM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > I suggest "rsync --link-dest" too. Symbolic links are a nice way to > store the previous (and currently newest) backup destination directory. > So maybe like this in the backup destination machine: --link-dest doesn't create symbolic

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

Hi, > epiphany browser [...] makes my hole system crash. It should not. > My problem is how it happens that a user program make a Linux system freeze. First thing to test is whether it is a crash or a freeze of the desktop. If you have a network with a second computer then log into the proble

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 09:27 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, I don't > care about > epiphany, I can use an other browser as you said, but just care about > a stable > OS! Debian, and Linux in general, does handle buggy programs. But wit

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 09:38 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > This is not a bug with Debian in particular, but with Epiphany in > general. I could reproduce a similar behaviour, but managed to kill > the browser process before the system became completely unresponsive. > > I suggest you

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

To me, w3m seems to be the best way to check whether there is a connection problem or not. Bugs if any should be reported at the earliest. Regards, Himanshu Shekhar

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, This is not a bug with Debian in particular, but with Epiphany in general. I could reproduce a similar behaviour, but managed to kill the browser process before the system became completely unresponsive. I suggest you file a bug report with th

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 07:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > --  Forwarded Message  -- > > Subject: Re: System craches when browsing a web site > Date: Tuesday 27 October 2015, 01:39:58 > From: Glenn English > To: debianUsers > > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 08:15 +0300, moxalt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:40:10 +0100, Abou Al Montacir > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany browser, > > and each time it makes my hole system crash. Only poweroff/poweron can > > reco

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 01:43:14 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. > > Both of them are non-free (Chromium has at least unclearly licensed > code). We have many free as in freedom browsers. I have used Iceweasel > since I use

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 01:39:58 Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > What fellow users think? > > Toss the sucker and get one that works. There are billions and billions of > browsers around. Even some that aren't Microsoft or Mozilla :-) > > And, no

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 06:39:42 Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. > > > > Both of them are non-free > > Good point, well taken. But OP doesn't like Mozilla for some reas