Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

2016-06-16 Thread Borden Rhodes
First, a huge shout out to /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz for telling me that appending systemd.debug-shell to the linux line in grub would let me run a shell even whilst the main boot couldn't drop into an emergency shell. I think this should be writ in large friendly letters at the start

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

2016-06-16 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 03:12, Borden Rhodes wrote: > Thank you for getting back to me, Sven, > > I normally run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade immediately after > my computer boots. According to the messages log, I turned the > computer on about 5 minutes before running that command and the

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Dan Purgert
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 16/06/2016 18:18, Dan Purgert a écrit : > 1) >> So, the fact that HTTPS doesn't ~actually~ provide you with any security >> when a "malicious party" has root accesss to the webserver, > > >> AND that it >> adds overhead to the transmission > > Does it really add network

Re: Functional Difference of dpkg --get-selections vs --get-selections "*"

2016-06-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2016-06-16 18:36 +, Bruce Gates wrote: > What is the functional difference between dpkg --get-selections and dpkg > --get-selections "*"? >From the manpage: , | --get-selections [package-name-pattern...] | Get list of package selections, and write it to stdout. |

Re: Apt periodic doesn't work

2016-06-16 Thread Jayson Willson
There is only one empty file named unattended-upgrades-shutdown.log in this directory. unattended-upgrades: Initial blacklisted packages: Initial whitelisted packages: Starting unattended upgrades script Allowed origins are: ['origin=Debian,codename=jessie,label=Debian-Security'] No packages foun

Re: Apt periodic doesn't work

2016-06-16 Thread Teemu Likonen
Jayson Willson [2016-06-16 20:54:12+03] wrote: > Hello! I use Debian Stable. Recently I have installed > unattended-upgrades package, so as to have apt lists updated and > possible upgrades downloaded automatically (while I do not want them > to be installed automatically). However, though I think

Re: open - resource temporarily unavailable

2016-06-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2016-06-16 21:46 +0600, Andrew P. Cherepenko wrote: > Hello list, > 'open()' for creating file sometimes returns an error: > couldn't open "myfile.txt": resource temporarily unavailable > either in background process or interactively (ex: in Emacs when > trying to save a file). Are y

Functional Difference of dpkg --get-selections vs --get-selections "*"

2016-06-16 Thread Bruce Gates
Hello, Noob question for y'all... What is the functional difference between dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --get-selections "*"? It seems to me that the first command would find all packages anyway, making the wildcard erroneous...perhaps I'm mistaken? Thanks guys and gals! Bruce

Re: Missing signatures for installer checksums

2016-06-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Jun 2016 at 13:04:35 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Sarah writes: > > Figuring out how to file the bug report isn't a problem. The problem > > is I don't know what component is responsible for generating either > > the existing checksum files or the .sign files for the ISOs. > > Then file

Re: boot times out after dist-upgrade on Stretch

2016-06-16 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you for getting back to me, Sven, I normally run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade immediately after my computer boots. According to the messages log, I turned the computer on about 5 minutes before running that command and the last log entry was about 3.5 hours later at 22:59. I hadn't f

Re: Missing signatures for installer checksums

2016-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Sarah writes: > Figuring out how to file the bug report isn't a problem. The problem > is I don't know what component is responsible for generating either > the existing checksum files or the .sign files for the ISOs. Then file the bug against your best guess as to the culprit. The maintainer wil

Apt periodic doesn't work

2016-06-16 Thread Jayson Willson
Hello! I use Debian Stable. Recently I have installed unattended-upgrades package, so as to have apt lists updated and possible upgrades downloaded automatically (while I do not want them to be installed automatically). However, though I think I have configured everything correctly, apt doesn't

Re: error trying to launch the first firefox window on Debian Jessie

2016-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 June 2016 12:48:42 Dalios wrote: > Hi list, > > my system is Debian 8 Jessie (stable) with XFCE Desktop Environment > and just a few days back my Iceweasel browser transformed to Firefox. > After that my keyboard shortcut for launching Firefox isn't working if > Firefox isn't runnin

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 16/06/2016 18:18, Dan Purgert a écrit : 1) So, the fact that HTTPS doesn't ~actually~ provide you with any security when a "malicious party" has root accesss to the webserver, AND that it adds overhead to the transmission Does it really add network overhead of just CPU overhead on the se

Re: Missing signatures for installer checksums

2016-06-16 Thread Sarah Newman
On 06/16/2016 07:44 AM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 16 Jun 2016 at 08:18:18 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> maybe an easier way if Sarah has smtp working on her debian box. Install >> report-bug and run it. If everything gets filled in correctly and >> report-bug can actually send an e-mail, the bug

error trying to launch the first firefox window on Debian Jessie

2016-06-16 Thread Dalios
Hi list, my system is Debian 8 Jessie (stable) with XFCE Desktop Environment and just a few days back my Iceweasel browser transformed to Firefox. After that my keyboard shortcut for launching Firefox isn't working if Firefox isn't running! In other words: if a Firefox Window is open then I can la

open - resource temporarily unavailable

2016-06-16 Thread Andrew P. Cherepenko
Hello list, 'open()' for creating file sometimes returns an error: couldn't open "myfile.txt": resource temporarily unavailable either in background process or interactively (ex: in Emacs when trying to save a file). system: Debian 8.5 with kernel: linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 and syst

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Dan Purgert
matthew wrote: > [snip] > > There are MD5 and SHA sums in that same directory. However I can only > access those checksums through unencrypted connections. Therefore they > cannot be used to check against 3rd party tampering. (Since someone > who has the ability to tamper with the .iso can also tam

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 June 2016 16:31:21 Dan Purgert wrote: > > In the end, however, we are all at each others' mercy. :-/ > > Indeed we are.  The people who send HTML messages often create "fun" > issues (as my client expects text alone).  But, "text only" is now > seemingly the "alternate" rather than t

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Dan Purgert
Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 16 June 2016 13:47:54 Dan Purgert wrote: >> In addition, I feel that both parties in the original problem >> (apparently Lisi and Nicolas -- please correct me if I'm wrong) each >> have some fault in the matter.  Mainly, this seems to stem from each of >> you assumin

Re: testing, rhythmbox err msg "Failed to open output device: Unable to prepare device"

2016-06-16 Thread songbird
Sven Arvidsson wrote: ... > Most likely a problem with Gstreamer, is=C2=A0gstreamer1.0-alsa installed? pulseaudio was too noisy, took it out again, left gstreamer alone. things now work like before with alsa. thanks again, :) songbird

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 June 2016 14:41:22 Matthew Davis wrote: > (Sorry about the lack of pleasantries in my previous email. I haven't used > these sorts of mailing lists before, so I just assumed it was all about > going straight to business like on Stack Exchange.) Both your emails seemed fine to me. :-

Re: Missing signatures for installer checksums

2016-06-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Jun 2016 at 08:18:18 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > maybe an easier way if Sarah has smtp working on her debian box. Install > report-bug and run it. If everything gets filled in correctly and > report-bug can actually send an e-mail, the bug report will be filed > correctly with everyth

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 June 2016 13:47:54 Dan Purgert wrote: > In addition, I feel that both parties in the original problem > (apparently Lisi and Nicolas -- please correct me if I'm wrong) each > have some fault in the matter.  Mainly, this seems to stem from each of > you assuming that the other's MUA b

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Matthew Davis
> Did you take a look here: https://www.debian.org/CD/verify , "Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs"? Yes I did. It's incredibly confusing. It's written with assumed knowledge that a lot of users don't have. There are lots of hex strings with mysterious 3 letter abbreviations and no commands in

Re: Samba 4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3 and group specific policies

2016-06-16 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:58:44 + (UTC), Virgo Pärna wrote: > > Those computers are part of special groups and groups have permission > for that policy. But those computers get "Access denied" when trying to > read that policy (GPT.INI). It worked before last update. > Or maybe I'm wron

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Did you take a look here: https://www.debian.org/CD/verify , "Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs"? The https protocol would add quite some overhead to the download of the iso-files which are already big by them self. Regards, jvp.

Re: How to download over https

2016-06-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > There are MD5 and SHA sums in that same directory. However I can only access > those checksums through unencrypted connections. Therefore they cannot be > used to check against 3rd party tampering. The chain of trust begins by the public keys as decribed at https://www.debian.org/CD/verif

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 08:20:11AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: [...] > Really? Whatever... to claim Mozilla was 'not free' based solely on the > one little issue with the trademarked logo was just plain silly. *plonk* -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Samba 4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3 and group specific policies

2016-06-16 Thread Virgo Pärna
Just checking if anyone else has problems with group specific Group Policies with Samba Active Directory domain controller with latest samba update (from 5th of June)? I have one policy that is only allowed for specific computers. Those computers are part of special groups and gro

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Dan Purgert
Nicolas George wrote: > Now, finally, how do we achieve automation? > > The ideal solution would be to have a real header telling us what to do: > "List-Reply-To: list" or "List-Reply-To: sender, list". Unfortunately, the > people in charge of that messed it up, they invented these useless headers

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 6/16/2016 7:45 AM, < wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 07:26:37AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 6/15/2016 4:23 PM, Rodary Jacques wrote: >>> Mozilla isn't free >> What a ridiculous claim this has always been by debianites... > This is an unnecessary slur. Were it not for Hanlon's razor[1], I'

Re: Missing signatures for installer checksums

2016-06-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
maybe an easier way if Sarah has smtp working on her debian box. Install report-bug and run it. If everything gets filled in correctly and report-bug can actually send an e-mail, the bug report will be filed correctly with everything debian expects. On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Leon.37428 wrote: Da

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Tanstaafl
My last reply to the spammer aka 'Nicolas George'... On 6/16/2016 5:28 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > With that in mind, you realize that the reply-to-list feature is bad UI > design: No, but I did take a minute to test and discovered my MUA of choice (Thunderbird) does have a bug with respect to i

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 07:26:37AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 6/15/2016 4:23 PM, Rodary Jacques wrote: > > Not using any MUA, just a browser (Opera, which is BTW in the official > > Debian list: https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers, non-free but I do

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 6/15/2016 4:23 PM, Rodary Jacques wrote: > Not using any MUA, just a browser (Opera, which is BTW in the official > Debian list: https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers, non-free but I don't > know why as it is a Mozilla clone; Mozilla isn't free What a ridiculous claim this has always been by deb

[SOLVED (sort of)]Re: apt-get update fails with sourceforge repo

2016-06-16 Thread Michael Lange
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:13:43 +0200 Michael Lange wrote: > Ok, looks like it's a bug in Jessie's apt version. Just for the record, in case anyone reads this: I filed a bug report for apt about this issue ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827365 ), however it showed that a new fe

Re: Mailing-list configuration

2016-06-16 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 29 prairial, an CCXXIV, Andrew McGlashan a écrit : > If you see no reply-to header, then only do reply to list as already > instructed with L for mutt, which I don't use. > > Always do reply to list, it's simple. IF someone says they are not > subscribed, please CC me, then take that in