Re: ssh doesn't work.

2016-12-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:33:07PM +0900, EenyMeenyMinyMoa wrote: > But when I execute either of these commands > $ ssh -p testac@192.168.0.5 > $ ssh -p -l testac -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa_test 192.168.0.5 > , the terminal doesn't resopnd for minutes and finally gives this message. > ssh: con

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 12/05/2016 07:06 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/05/2016 06:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm re

ssh doesn't work.

2016-12-05 Thread EenyMeenyMinyMoa
Hi. I'm using jessie and trying to connect from one jessie machine to another jessie machine by ssh. I succeeded the following commands at the server machine. $ ssh -p testac@localhost $ ssh -p -l testac -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa_test localhost But when I execute either of these commands $ ssh -p

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/05/2016 06:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread be

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2016 01:50 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 16:14:45 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 11/19/2016 02:47 PM, Brian wrote: You have this one definite requirement and will have to firm up what else you definitely want. I'll mention the HP OfficeJet Pro 8720 All-in-One Printer. It is re

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2016 09:55 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 04, 2016 06:50:17 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: I have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. Yes, sorry. :-( I have a horrible time with archives be

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase >>/etc/network/interfaces Should handle encrypted keys and put them where they're needed. On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Seeker wrote: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 15:00:44 From: Seeker To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: WiFi after initial install Resent-Date: Mon, 5

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Rainer Dorsch: > I think this then results in errors during an apt-get upgrade: It does indeed. It is systemd-journald that resides at the server end of /dev/log on a systemd operating system. Quite a lot of other stuff will break for you if you don't have a running systemd-journald, because

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 6 Dec 2016 5:14 am, "Nicholas Geovanis" wrote: > > I'd like to make sure I'm taking away the right thing from this conversation. > It seems we have high-level recommendations _not_ to use LVM RAID1. > Not just over MD, simply don't use it at all. Do I get that right? > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye --

Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Greg Wooledge: Neither of those links talks about jessie's specific default script that waits for network interfaces to start. They do, however, explain what LSB has to do with things, which was what you wondered about. Greg Wooledge: Neither do they mention this "van Smoorenburg". Miguel

Re: OT: Read-Only NFS-mounted Debian System for Library Kiosk PCs, using KACE K2000 as PXE?

2016-12-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:33:31PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Yes, that explains *what* to do in a general sort of way, but not *why* > it's being done, so when a particular generalized step doesn't work, I'm > having difficulty sorting out what that step is supposed to do, and how to > do it in

djbwares version 4

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
In celebration of the forthcoming leap second, djbwares is now at version 4. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ I've added in the rest of M. Bernstein's public domain libtai library, parts of which were already included by some of the tools. This ha

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 12:28:24PM -0800, Seeker wrote: > On 12/5/2016 12:00 PM, Seeker wrote: > > > Thanks all for the replies. Looking at the options suggested, it looks like I have the following options: 1) systemd-networkd, it didn't provoke the vitriol I was half-expecting. 2) ifupdown --

Re: OT: Read-Only NFS-mounted Debian System for Library Kiosk PCs, using KACE K2000 as PXE?

2016-12-05 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 02:07:44PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > But I have no real experience in PXE booting, and only vaguely understand > > the depths of Debian booting, and know very little about setting up a > KACE > > (now Quest) K2000 Syste

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Connect_to_network_with_secret_on_boot Am 5. Dezember 2016 16:31:41 MEZ, schrieb Mark Fletcher : >Hello the list! > >I have a Mini-ITX PC, a few months old, running KDE on Stretch. > >When I installed it, I used a Stretch netinst image burned to a USB

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Roman Tsisyk wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Dan Ritter wrote: >>> If you want LVM on top of RAID, use LVM on top of mdadm, but >>> consider whether you might actually want ZFS instead. >> Side note: With ZFS you don't want to use MD (or any other RAID) >> below

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Seeker
On 12/5/2016 12:00 PM, Seeker wrote: On 12/5/2016 7:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: All my past Debian experience of setting up WiFi is pre-systemd / pre-stretch, and a long time in my past so I have forgotten more than I ever knew :) Outside Debian, I've done it on LFS using systemd-networkd --

Re: OT: Read-Only NFS-mounted Debian System for Library Kiosk PCs, using KACE K2000 as PXE?

2016-12-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 02:07:44PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > But I have no real experience in PXE booting, and only vaguely understand > the depths of Debian booting, and know very little about setting up a KACE > (now Quest) K2000 Systems Deployment Appliance for network-booting a > computer, and

OT: Read-Only NFS-mounted Debian System for Library Kiosk PCs, using KACE K2000 as PXE?

2016-12-05 Thread Kent West
I've been tasked with replacing a few library kiosks in a university library. They currently run Windows with a kiosk-product named SiteKiosk to restrict them to just a few apps (web-browser, printing, MS-Word) and prevent tampering. It works pretty well. But I have a philosophical distaste of Win

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Seeker
On 12/5/2016 7:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: All my past Debian experience of setting up WiFi is pre-systemd / pre-stretch, and a long time in my past so I have forgotten more than I ever knew :) Outside Debian, I've done it on LFS using systemd-networkd -- I know that can be made to work but it

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Roman Tsisyk
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > >> If you want LVM on top of RAID, use LVM on top of mdadm, but consider >> whether you might actually want ZFS instead. > > Side note: With ZFS you don't want to use MD (or any other RAID) below > ZFS but instead put all d

Re: Resolved already: No ffmpeg?, howto convert/extract audio from webmd ,write to ogg?

2016-12-05 Thread maderios
On 12/05/2016 03:19 PM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 03:29:00PM +0100, maderios wrote: Yes, in the past, Marillat repository name *was* 'debian-multimedia', then he changed his site in 'deb-multimedia'. He was asked by Debian to change the domain name so people wou

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Dan Ritter wrote: > If you want LVM on top of RAID, use LVM on top of mdadm, but consider > whether you might actually want ZFS instead. Side note: With ZFS you don't want to use MD (or any other RAID) below ZFS but instead put all disk directly into a (or multiple) VDEV. S° -- Sigmentation f

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I'd like to make sure I'm taking away the right thing from this > conversation. > It seems we have high-level recommendations _not_ to use LVM RAID1. Yes. > Not just over MD, simply don't use it at all. Do I get that right? Yes. With MD lower in the stack, you don't

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread emetib
hey rainer yeah i wouldn't go with sid, it's fun to play around with yet not for a server install. sysinit vs systemd is up to you. i haven't had a problem with systemd, it's just another thing that you have to read about to get the hang of it. you will have to forgive me for not reading all

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 01:14:14PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I'd like to make sure I'm taking away the right thing from this > conversation. > It seems we have high-level recommendations _not_ to use LVM RAID1. > Not just over MD, simply don't use it at all. Do I get that right? > Yes. I

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I'd like to make sure I'm taking away the right thing from this conversation. It seems we have high-level recommendations _not_ to use LVM RAID1. Not just over MD, simply don't use it at all. Do I get that right? On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 0

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > take a look at this forum for all of the discussions on sysinit vs systemd. > > > > Hmm...do you suggest to go to sysvinit? Hmmm... http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_install

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Jessie is also using systemd (?). Yes, jessie is the first release to use systemd by default. (It was available in wheezy as a "technology preview" only.) You're also allowed to run jessie using sysvinit, but this is not the defaul

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi emetib, On Monday 05 December 2016 08:47:55 emetib wrote: > quick question for you. > > if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade > instead of just installing stretch? > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ scaleway offered jessie and sid as read

Setting ad-hoc connection that survives sleep

2016-12-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
I have a headless machine connected to an ad-hoc network here. I have the network setup in /etc/network/interface and it is brought up fine at boot, but after suspend/resume the connection is lost until I manually do ifdown+ifup. I guess I could add the ifdown+ifup to /etc/pm/sleep.d, but I was wo

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 08:47:55AM -0800, emetib wrote: > if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade > instead of just installing stretch? Because until the stretch installer is ready for prime time, that is the safest way to get stretch. > https://www.debian.org/

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Dec 2016 at 12:29:17 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 12:31:41AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Hello the list! > > > > > > I'm somewhat aware of systemd-networkd, and I know that it is super-easy > > to set up a DHCP-based wired ethernet connection that way,

Re: WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 12:31:41AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello the list! > > > I'm somewhat aware of systemd-networkd, and I know that it is super-easy > to set up a DHCP-based wired ethernet connection that way, and I also > know it is possible to do so with a WiFi connection too -- bu

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread emetib
quick question for you. if you wanted to have stretch, why did you install jessie and then upgrade instead of just installing stretch? https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ i've personally found it's better to just install the testing image right away instead of doing a dist-upgrade.

WiFi after initial install

2016-12-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello the list! I have a Mini-ITX PC, a few months old, running KDE on Stretch. When I installed it, I used a Stretch netinst image burned to a USB stick and had the wired ethernet plugged in, for speed during the installation. (and also because I didn't know what fun and games I'd end up hav

Re: packages from http://snapshot.debian.org/ would not install (then did with dpkg)

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Using Jessie, as I was unable to discover how to install a pair of > interdependent .debs Put them both on your local machine, and install them using a single dpkg -i command: [sudo if needed] dpkg -i thing1.deb thing2.deb

Re: Document and LBC (Was: Debian *not very good)

2016-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 05:34:13PM +, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Anonymous: > >The error message:"A start job is running for LSB: Raise > >network interface (xx sec/no limit)". Where xx is a count up in > >seconds that never ends. > > Greg Wooledge: > >"LSB" stands for Linux Standard

Re: ISO9660 creator in Debian Jessie

2016-12-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:16:23 +0100 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > terryc wrote: > > Unfortuantely, all that both machines have is Xfburn, which it gives > > you an option of creating an ISO, it only does so if the burner is in > > that machine. Major bummer. > (...) > Did you already tr

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 07:39:37PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > So far I used lvm with raid1 device as PV. > > Recently I have to extend my VG > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00909.html) > > and I read some about lvm. > If I understand correctly, LVM have builtin RAID1 functiona

Re: ISO9660 creator in Debian Jessie

2016-12-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:46:55AM +, Brian wrote: > genisoimage -o out.iso file1 file2 . I'd echo this, use genisoimage, but read the man page first, you will almost certainly want to also use the -J and -r arguments too. -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the l

Re: systemd-journald fails

2016-12-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Sunday 04 December 2016 16:47:48 emetib wrote: > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:10:04 PM UTC-6, deloptes wrote: > > > /dev/log > ? > > try and take a look at 'journalctl -b 0' > that might give some info or you can look at '/var/log/messages' and/or > '/var/log/syslog'. those last two kind

Re: ISO9660 creator in Debian Jessie

2016-12-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Dec 2016 at 17:03:27 +1100, terryc wrote: > I need a prog to create an ISO image of files to transfer to a second > machine for burning, but I've suddenly found that my rich collection of > tools is noew depreciated and D'd in Debian Jessie. > > Unfortuantely, all that both machines hav

Re: ISO9660 creator in Debian Jessie

2016-12-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, terryc wrote: > Unfortuantely, all that both machines have is Xfburn, which it gives > you an option of creating an ISO, it only does so if the burner is in > that machine. Major bummer. Sounds like an unfortunate design. I have on my todo list to test CDEmu ( http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ )