Re: anybody maintaining lxc and lxd in Debian?

2018-07-10 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 7/10/18 12:36 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 09:56:58AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> is anybody maintaining lxc in Debian? I have the impression that >> it has been orphaned. And I don't dare to hope for #768073 anymore. > > Ah yes I'd forgotten about that (I was involv

Re: How to"apt update" from an USB key ?

2018-07-10 Thread john doe
On 7/11/2018 7:55 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: On 07/11/2018 07:27 AM, john doe wrote: On 7/11/2018 7:10 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: On an ultraslim (ACER swift 3) I have no CDROM no Ethernet, only an USB key. I have installed stretch (without GUI) from the USB key, and now I want to install connma

Re: How to"apt update" from an USB key ?

2018-07-10 Thread john doe
On 7/11/2018 7:10 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: On an ultraslim (ACER swift 3) I have no CDROM no Ethernet, only an USB key. I have installed stretch (without GUI) from the USB key, and now I want to install connman, but I do not success to apt-cdrom on an USB. I have googled but did not find a cor

How to"apt update" from an USB key ?

2018-07-10 Thread Pierre Couderc
On an ultraslim (ACER swift 3) I have no CDROM no Ethernet, only an USB key. I have installed stretch (without GUI) from the USB key, and now I want to install connman, but I do not success to apt-cdrom on an USB. I have googled but did not find a correct howto to do that... Thanks in advance P

Re: No full upgrade to Nvidia 390.67 from bpo

2018-07-10 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/10/18 5:14 AM, mlnl wrote: > Hi, > > i'm using stretch-backports but i can't get the full upgrade to Nvidia > 390.67. The aptitude log shows: > > Aptitude 0.8.7: log report > Mon, Jul 9 2018 14:04:18 +0200 > Will install 9 packages, and remove 0 packages. > =

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-10 Thread Matthew Crews
On 7/10/18 3:28 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 04:54:53PM -0400, Matthew Crews wrote: >> Separate partitions >> Pros: if your / partition drive fails, it does not take /home with it > > You are conflating drives and partitions, here. Both partitions could be > on the same ph

Re: Required help on local Debain mirror

2018-07-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:31:06PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 30 Aug 2017 at 17:27:31 (+0200), Christian Seiler wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Am 2017-08-29 11:57, schrieb Kala Techies: > > >I am using (Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.10 (squeeze)) in my environment and I > > >want to update all syste

Re: VPN suggestions?

2018-07-10 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Dennis Wicks writes: > Greetings; > > I want to set up a VPN for several computers in my house > that are all on a local network. > > And suggestions, hints, warnings? Your question as stated doesn't really explain why you want a VPN, and what you're planning to do with it. All you've mentioned

Re: VPN suggestions?

2018-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 July 2018 19:26:17 Ben Finney wrote: > Dennis Wicks writes: > > I want to set up a VPN for several computers in my house that are > > all on a local network. > > What do you mean by “set up a VPN”? > > Is it sufficient to pay someone else to host the VPN, and your > computers connec

Re: VPN suggestions?

2018-07-10 Thread Ben Finney
Dennis Wicks writes: > I want to set up a VPN for several computers in my house that are all > on a local network. What do you mean by “set up a VPN”? Is it sufficient to pay someone else to host the VPN, and your computers connect to that VPN managed by someone else? Do you expect to manage t

VPN suggestions?

2018-07-10 Thread Dennis Wicks
Greetings; I want to set up a VPN for several computers in my house that are all on a local network. And suggestions, hints, warnings? TIA!! Dennis

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 06 Jul 2018 at 08:41:58 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-07-06, David Wright wrote: > > > Hmm, I struggle to see the connection between what I asked for and > > what you wrote. From your later post, I guess the answer is that > > editing /etc/debian_version risks provoking expletives from ot

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/10/2018 01:40 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 06 Jul 2018 at 06:25:43 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. I will run identical test scripts on each. I want to store the results in a common logging file. If you're going to compare you

THANKYOU**Googleplex - was (Re: Separate /home directories etc?)

2018-07-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/10/2018 01:28 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] Is it a big enough topic to deserve a whole article? I would expect articles on partitioning to mention it in passing, as for example: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning That, with the benefit of article it references, is exactly

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
sgarrulo: > > I had an installation of debian stable (stretch) which was fully upgraded > something > like a couple of months ago. Then I passed it to testing (buster). There should not be that many changes, but I generally would only upgrade to a newer release when the current system is up-to-da

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Jul 2018 at 12:53:20 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 09 Jul 2018 at 19:05:52 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > You're both missing the main point, whi

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-10 Thread john doe
On 7/10/2018 8:40 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 06 Jul 2018 at 06:25:43 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. I will run identical test scripts on each. I want to store the results in a common logging file. If you're going to compare your

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Jul 2018 at 14:20:50 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:53:20PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 09 Jul 2018 at 19:05:52 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -040

Re: More on locale

2018-07-10 Thread jpff
I have those files except the last htl one. I should have added that I have been running this macine for years and this started recently, a month or two I think. On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:37:19PM +0100, John wrote: A short time ago I sought your

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 06 Jul 2018 at 06:25:43 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. > I will run identical test scripts on each. > I want to store the results in a common logging file. If you're going to compare your test runs, you might be better off stori

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 Jul 2018 at 07:47:48 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/06/2018 03:47 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >In response to a unrelated post to a LUG, I was asked if I had a > >separate /home directory. Short answer -- no. > > > >I abandoned WinXP when Jessie had become stable. > >The installer

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:53:20PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 09 Jul 2018 at 19:05:52 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > You're both missing the main point,

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Jul 2018 at 19:05:52 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > You're both missing the main point, which is that a Brother > > > printer with BRscript/3 is essentially a

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/10/18, The Wanderer wrote: > > (I'm really surprised to see someone with an @debian.org address > advising people to run unstable for any other reason than helping with > developing Debian. Cherry-picking a single package from unstable for > new-version reasons may be one thing, but tracking

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 04:10:22PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > Most users I am supporting are using stable, but some are using testing. > Should I advise them to upgrade tu unstable? > For non-production use, unstable or testing should be fine. Both will be broken from time-to-time. The question is

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:27:19AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > (I'm really surprised to see someone with an @debian.org address > advising people to run unstable for any other reason than helping with > developing Debian. I say that because testing gets "stuck" in various ways. In particular,

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 July 2018 10:09:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 11:38:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 07:05:52PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400,

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Hans
> > For myself, I track stable+testing, dist-upgrade on at least a weekly > basis, and deal with occasional breakage when it happens. So do I. But in the past I (some years agho) I ran unstable but never got iun big trouble (I believe, I wa just luicky, wasn't I?) Best Hans

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread Hans
Please also note, tzhat there is a difference, between using apt (apt-get) and aptitude. The way, I prefewr, is using apt-get upgrade (which installs only newer packages, and let the problematic ones uninstalled), then using apt-get full- upgrade. When there are packages deinstalled, reinstall

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-10 at 10:10, Hans wrote: > Hi Robert, > > thanks for your quick response. So, doi I see this correct and can I > say: There is an automatismn for a package removal, which will be > interrupted, when the maintainer is responding within a period of > time and the reason for the removal w

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-10 at 06:55, sgarrulo wrote: > Hello everyone! > I had an installation of debian stable (stretch) which was fully > upgraded something like a couple of months ago. Then I passed it to > testing (buster). > > Now I'm facing this situation: > * 5031 installed packages > * 1292 upgradabl

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Hans
Hi Robert, thanks for your quick response. So, doi I see this correct and can I say: There is an automatismn for a package removal, which will be interrupted, when the maintainer is responding within a period of time and the reason for the removal was eliminated (i.e. fixed a bug or uploaded a

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 11:38:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 07:05:52PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > You're both missing the main poin

Re: debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 03:31:09PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I know, I had discussed a similar question ago, but testing is still a > miracle > for me. > > Is there an automatism, why or when packages got removed from testing or ist > this always done manually by the developers? > >

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:39:44AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > Hi.. Been there, done that, filed a bug, got fussed at, vented here at > Debian-User. Moral of the Story: I don't file ANY BUGS anymore. I > spend that time advocating important subjects related to #Life > instead. lol! > Sadly

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/10/18, sgarrulo wrote: > Hello everyone! > I had an installation of debian stable (stretch) which was fully upgraded > something > like a couple of months ago. Then I passed it to testing (buster). > > Now I'm facing this situation: > * 5031 installed packages > * 1292 upgradable packages > >

debian/testing repo question

2018-07-10 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I know, I had discussed a similar question ago, but testing is still a miracle for me. Is there an automatism, why or when packages got removed from testing or ist this always done manually by the developers? This time I struggled about "cqrlog", which was accepted in testing, then

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-10 Thread john doe
On 7/10/2018 2:16 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2018-07-08 17:41, John Darrah wrote: On 7/8/2018 7:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Until this thread I didn't have concept of "stream editor", much less the existence of "sed". I had heard of "AWK", but had an image of it being a regex parser. Awk is

Re: Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread Joe
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 12:55:26 +0200 sgarrulo wrote: > Hello everyone! > I had an installation of debian stable (stretch) which was fully > upgraded something like a couple of months ago. Then I passed it to > testing (buster). > > Now I'm facing this situation: > * 5031 installed packages > * 129

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-10 Thread mick crane
On 2018-07-10 13:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:16:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I'd like to learn some awk having found it handy once. apt says mawk is installed in /usr/bin I have lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Apr 2 22:29 awk -> /etc/alternatives/awk -rwxr-xr-x 1

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-10 Thread mick crane
On 2018-07-08 12:18, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 07:39:07AM +0200, john doe wrote: The issue here is that we don't know what the OP wants A situation sadly familiar when dealing with this particular poster's threads. Also in the general case, if you ever find yourself pa

PAM-CGFS[xxx]: Failed to get list of controllers

2018-07-10 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, I'm getting messages like this in auth.log: PAM-CGFS[xxx]: Failed to get list of controllers Web searches generally hint at a link with LXC, and this is on an LXC host, but doesn't seem to directly relate to the containers - it shows up when anyone logs in, starts a cron session, or simi

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:16:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > I'd like to learn some awk having found it handy once. > apt says mawk is installed > > in /usr/bin I have > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Apr 2 22:29 awk -> /etc/alternatives/awk > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 658072 Jan 25 12:55

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-10 Thread mick crane
On 2018-07-08 17:41, John Darrah wrote: On 7/8/2018 7:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Until this thread I didn't have concept of "stream editor", much less the existence of "sed". I had heard of "AWK", but had an image of it being a regex parser. Awk is easy to learn because it is a minimal la

No full upgrade to Nvidia 390.67 from bpo

2018-07-10 Thread mlnl
Hi, i'm using stretch-backports but i can't get the full upgrade to Nvidia 390.67. The aptitude log shows: Aptitude 0.8.7: log report Mon, Jul 9 2018 14:04:18 +0200 Will install 9 packages, and remove 0 packages. [HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libegl1-mesa:amd64 13

Buster and apt wanting to remove tons of packages...

2018-07-10 Thread sgarrulo
Hello everyone! I had an installation of debian stable (stretch) which was fully upgraded something like a couple of months ago. Then I passed it to testing (buster). Now I'm facing this situation: * 5031 installed packages * 1292 upgradable packages If I do a normal upgrade, 676 packages are to

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 04:54:53PM -0400, Matthew Crews wrote: Separate partitions Pros: if your / partition drive fails, it does not take /home with it You are conflating drives and partitions, here. Both partitions could be on the same physical drive, and a drive failure would affect both in

Re: anybody maintaining lxc and lxd in Debian?

2018-07-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 09:56:58AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: is anybody maintaining lxc in Debian? I have the impression that it has been orphaned. And I don't dare to hope for #768073 anymore. Ah yes I'd forgotten about that (I was involved for a while). But looking at the current status it'

Re: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-10 Thread Joe
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:14:11 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 05:27:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 20:32:03 +0100 > > Joe wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:24:59 -0400 > > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > The majority of machines