Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 11:07:28 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/01/2019 10:15 AM, David Wright wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Interesting. I thought Tcl/Tk was for writing GUIs. ... > > *CAVEAT* LECTOR > It is more like Tk being a GUI interface for Tcl. Sure, and for several other languages, bu

Re: logout kills X

2019-02-01 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 10:54:32 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-31, Brian wrote: > > > > Thank you for looking at this. I tried 'clear && reset' on unstable and > > have no complaints. Back to tty2 on after logging in and out and mouse > > and keyboard normal operation on X in tty1. > > > > So - i

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 13:10:19 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 06:06:18PM +, Joe wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 07:59:42 -0600 Richard Owlett > > wrote: > > > > > ... a major deficiency of the man page format -- > > > [/begin_rant almost total lack of examples /end

Re: Thunderbird + Enigmail + saving draft with encryption

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Sutton
On 01/02/2019 21:24, Étienne Mollier wrote: > On 2/1/19 7:26 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: >> If you save the message,  close the compose window,  then go to Drafts,  >> then reopen the message for more editing before sending the subject >> remains as "Encrypted message" and you lose the original subject

Re: Thunderbird + Enigmail + saving draft with encryption

2019-02-01 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 2/1/19 7:26 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > If you save the message,  close the compose window,  then go to Drafts,  > then reopen the message for more editing before sending the subject > remains as "Encrypted message" and you lose the original subject header. > > I just wondered if this is what is m

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 07:30:31PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 01/02/2019 à 16:23, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/mapper/trotzki-home > > /dev/mapper/trotzki-home: symbolic link to ../dm-4 > > > >Ah. > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/dm-4 > > /dev/dm-4

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 01/02/2019 à 16:23, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/mapper/trotzki-home /dev/mapper/trotzki-home: symbolic link to ../dm-4 Ah. tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/dm-4 /dev/dm-4: block special (254/4) Not yet what we wanted. But: tomas@trotzki:~$ sudo file -s /

Thunderbird + Enigmail + saving draft with encryption

2019-02-01 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Thunderbird + Enigmail has an option in "account settings" OpenPGP Security to save a draft of a message with encryption, as expected this saves the draft but with a new subject as "Encrypted message" and it appears in drafts as this. If you s

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 06:06:18PM +, Joe wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 07:59:42 -0600 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > ... a major deficiency of the man page format -- > > > [/begin_rant almost total lack of examples /end_rant ;] > > > > That's what's expected

Re: Windows 10 & Debian 9: Win 10 not updating

2019-02-01 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 16:08 Scarletdown wrote: > On 1/31/2019 2:02 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > > Problem: Neither Win 10 OS has been able to successfully update since > > about last April. I have tried all the things I have found in an ... >> Has anyone had the same problem (no Win 10 updates) with

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Joe
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 07:59:42 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > ... a major deficiency of the man page format -- > [/begin_rant almost total lack of examples /end_rant ;] > That's what's expected of man pages. If you want examples, poke around the Net for tutorials, and be prepared to find a wid

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 06:06:18PM +, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 07:59:42 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > ... a major deficiency of the man page format -- > > [/begin_rant almost total lack of examples /end_rant ;] > > That's what's expected of man pages. If you want examples, p

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/01/2019 10:15 AM, David Wright wrote: [snip] Interesting. I thought Tcl/Tk was for writing GUIs. ... *CAVEAT* LECTOR It is more like Tk being a GUI interface for Tcl.

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 11:14:11 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Richard Owlett composed on 2019-02-01 07:59 (UTC-0600): > > Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > >> It's what Gparted does and what Richard mentioned as example of the desired > >> information. > > > I'd make that statement stronger. > > My starti

[solved] Re: logout kills X

2019-02-01 Thread Holger Herrlich
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:36:58 + Brian wrote: > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:56:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > tty1 became special with the introduction of systemd. Do not use > > tty1 for X. Instead use tty2 and/or tty3 and/or tty4 and/or tty5 > > and/or tty6. Buster may have this fixed, as

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 09:00:06 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/01/2019 08:22 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > [Gparted] PROVED that what I wanted was possible. > > > > Regrettably it does not retrieve the information by some universal info > > program or library, bu

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2019-02-01 07:59 (UTC-0600): > Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> It's what Gparted does and what Richard mentioned as example of the desired >> information. > I'd make that statement stronger. > My starting point was Gparted displays *ALL* the desired information for > *ALL* m

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 16:23:04 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Not yet what we wanted. But: > > tomas@trotzki:~$ sudo file -s /dev/dm-4 > /dev/dm-4: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, > UUID=c5d1ae98-df63-4c04-913d-661b82d38075 (needs journal recovery) (extents) > (64bit) (large files)

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 01, 2019 10:27:05 AM Curt wrote: > Maybe inconclusive. What's a gnome application, anyway? I'd like to try to answer that: * I would say that a GNOME application is one that is in some sense supported by the GNOME (I guess GNU?) organization -- it is probably hosted (i.e.

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 07:59:42 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/31/2019 02:03 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > What bugs me is Gparted [though it does not output text] reports > > > > > used/unused space on each partition/file system. > > > > i wrot

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 01, 2019 09:22:10 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If you refer to Gparted's man page, then the answer is obviously that > nobody expects hard info from the manual of a clicky-colorful GUI program. > (I.e. not "RTFM" but "RTSL" = "Read The Source, Luke.") I hope that's not the case (

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-01, Kenneth Parker wrote: > --1724fb0580ce49f7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > > >> ... NM is a Gnome application. ... >> > > > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package > Manager

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 09:00:06AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/01/2019 08:22 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > >So you need one or more scripts ... Then the script[s] would put out > >the retrieved numbers in the text format which you desire. > > The need for *ME* to write a script was

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/01/2019 08:22 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: [Gparted] PROVED that what I wanted was possible. Regrettably it does not retrieve the information by some universal info program or library, but rather has particular info sources for each of the supported filesystems. (

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 00:19:09 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > > > > ... NM is a Gnome application. ... > > > > > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package > Manager) and, even though no Gnome, Network Manager was

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > [Gparted] PROVED that what I wanted was possible. Regrettably it does not retrieve the information by some universal info program or library, but rather has particular info sources for each of the supported filesystems. (There are more filesystems around than i can see

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-02-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2019 02:03 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: What bugs me is Gparted [though it does not output text] reports used/unused space on each partition/file system. i wrote: [...] Gparted runs external programs, which a simple shell script could do too. David Wright w

Re: logout kills X

2019-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-01-31, Brian wrote: > > Thank you for looking at this. I tried 'clear && reset' on unstable and > have no complaints. Back to tty2 on after logging in and out and mouse > and keyboard normal operation on X in tty1. > > So - is bash the culprit, or are the interactions between it and other