Re: putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread Peter Wiersig
mick crane writes: > > the PCs are physically adjacent connected with the RJ45 ( isn't it ) > cables through what is supposed to be a switch I got in B&Q several > years ago. Almost, RJ-45 is the specification for the plug and jacks, what you're having here is ethernet wiring in twisted pairs be

Re: putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread lev
Hey Mick, On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 11:31:26PM +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2019-04-08 23:03, l...@levlaz.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:38:48PM +0100, mick crane wrote: This is probably something to do with the network connection. Any idea to find out what might cause this sluggardly beh

Re: OpenSSH not closing idle sessions.

2019-04-08 Thread Richard Hector
On 9/04/19 12:14 PM, timothylegg wrote: > I have two residences and one > has a port forwarding issue. I want to make an SSH tunnel to the > other site. If I am at one place for multiple weeks, it's asking too > much for the SSH tunnel to stay live that long (I've seen many > complaints of SSH co

Re: OpenSSH not closing idle sessions.

2019-04-08 Thread Kushal Kumaran
timothylegg writes: > I'm the only user that will be angry at being disconnected. There is > no easy way to explain the reasoning; I've rewritten this paragraph > three times because it was too long. I have two residences and one > has a port forwarding issue. I want to make an SSH tunnel to t

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.04.19 17:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Hello all > > > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > > me go back and e

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 21:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I've created a very simple script that is capable of parsing the > output of "ip addr" and comparing the returned ip address for the > relevant interface to a stored ip address, and thus being able to > tell if the IP address has changed. Wh

Re: OpenSSH not closing idle sessions.

2019-04-08 Thread timothylegg
I'm the only user that will be angry at being disconnected. There is no easy way to explain the reasoning; I've rewritten this paragraph three times because it was too long. I have two residences and one has a port forwarding issue. I want to make an SSH tunnel to the other site. If I am at one

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:14:33 +0100 Thomas Pircher wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. > > Hi Mark, > > FYI, mutt does allow you to change the Subject line, in the Compose > Menu, just before sending the mail. > > > Short version: Is it reasonab

Re: putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-08 23:03, l...@levlaz.org wrote: Hey Mick, On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:38:48PM +0100, mick crane wrote: hello, It may not be mail list specific but maybe somebody knows ? If I connect windows 10 to debian Buster with putty and edit a file. Usually the little cursor beetles across the

Re: How to change GDM3 login screen background

2019-04-08 Thread Andrew Clark
Thanks curt, that works for me. So the commentary in the comments in the source file supplied by the gdm3 package don't work, along with the instructions in the wiki page pointing to them, should I log a bug? On Sun., 7 Apr. 2019, 18:35 Curt, wrote: > On 2019-04-07, Andrew Clark wrote: > > > >

Re: putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread lev
Hey Mick, On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:38:48PM +0100, mick crane wrote: hello, It may not be mail list specific but maybe somebody knows ? If I connect windows 10 to debian Buster with putty and edit a file. Usually the little cursor beetles across the screen over the characters but then sometime

Re: Tracking the next Stable release

2019-04-08 Thread Peter Wiersig
Francisco M Neto writes: > Sometimes people ask me when is Debian going to release its next Stable; > that is not an easy answer, since it is not time-based but rather based on the > number of Release-Critical bugs. It's done when it's done and https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/ get

Re: putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread Peter Wiersig
You'd at least have to explain the type of connection from the putty client to the server. But your symptoms don't ring a bell over here aside from a saturated uplink. Peter

Tracking the next Stable release

2019-04-08 Thread Francisco M Neto
Greetings! Sometimes people ask me when is Debian going to release its next Stable; that is not an easy answer, since it is not time-based but rather based on the number of Release-Critical bugs. So I started thinking it would be nice to have a convenient way of knowing how far a

putty go slow

2019-04-08 Thread mick crane
hello, It may not be mail list specific but maybe somebody knows ? If I connect windows 10 to debian Buster with putty and edit a file. Usually the little cursor beetles across the screen over the characters but then sometimes it is noticeably sluggish. This is probably something to do with the ne

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread rlharris
On 2019.04.08 14:25, Dan Ritter wrote: IBM Buckling Spring: nobody knows, but there are a lot of keyboards still working 25-30 years later. Cherry: 50 million. https://www.cherrymx.de/_Resources/Persistent/e005dff11a2e406babe9e8718fec9fc8835bb9ce/EN_CHERRY_MX_BLUE_RGB.pdf Kailh: 50 - 80 millio

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
I managed to build a locale with a customized LC_TIME setting under buster. It's not documented in a straightforward manner anywhere I could find, so I'm going to spell it all out here. Step 1: Start with an existing locale definition. In my case, I am starting with Debian buster's en_US locale

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Dan Ritter
rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On 2019.04.08 05:29, Martin wrote: > > since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single > > press. I have to press twice. > > The problem most likely is oxidation of the electrical contacts of the key > switch. The silver or gold plating of the contact

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread rlharris
On 2019.04.08 05:29, Martin wrote: since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have to press twice. The problem most likely is oxidation of the electrical contacts of the key switch. The silver or gold plating of the contact surfaces may be compromised by mechani

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Étienne Mollier
Cindy-Sue Causey, on 2019-04-08 : > Found this over at Tecmint: > > https://www.tecmint.com/set-system-locales-in-linux/ > > locale -k LC_TIME > > Very coo AND further implies *WHAT ELSE can that little puppy do*, but > my brain's already cognitively sundowning so am passing the baton on > for some

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 07:10:50PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: > > My question is - can anyone suggest me appropriate LC_TIME setting that > > can show buster's date in stretch's format? > > $ LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 TZ=UTC date > Mon 08 Apr 2019 05:07:44 PM UTC > > $

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > I'd like mine to be in the '2009.04.08' format. $ date +'%Y.%m.%d' 2019.04.08 Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: OpenSSH not closing idle sessions.

2019-04-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 12:25:28PM -0500, timothylegg wrote: > I need to have the session expire and the ssh client terminate after > an idle time. Most people want the exact opposite of that. Basically, what you're asking for is directly hostile to any kind of sane operation of a computer. > Cl

OpenSSH not closing idle sessions.

2019-04-08 Thread timothylegg
Debian 9 - Installed yesterday on two 64-bit VMs In /etc/ssh/ssh_config there are two parameters, of which I am citing sshd_config(5) man page: ClientAliveInterval - Sets a timeout interval in seconds after which if no data has been received from the client, sshd(8) will send a message through t

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/8/19, Étienne Mollier wrote: > On 4/8/19 5:26 PM, Reco wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> the following thing got my attention recently: >> >> stretch$ TZ=UTC date >> Mon Apr 8 15:22:02 UTC 2019 >> buster$ TZ=UTC date >> Mon 08 Apr 2019 03:22:04 PM UTC >> >> It's not that I depend on certain da

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 08.04.2019 19:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 08, 2019 10:18:28 AM Curt wrote: >> On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >>> And someone would (or should) ask what does "frequently" mean, and that >>> is what I am trying to quantify. >> Sure. But below a certain level of gran

Re: date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 4/8/19 5:26 PM, Reco wrote: > Dear list, > > the following thing got my attention recently: > > stretch$ TZ=UTC date > Mon Apr 8 15:22:02 UTC 2019 > buster$ TZ=UTC date > Mon 08 Apr 2019 03:22:04 PM UTC > > It's not that I depend on certain date format in scripts, but I got used > to t

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > As mentioned in another post, I am starting to fear for the reilability of an > HDD (DOAs, early failures, unwilingness of the vendor / manufacturer to > provide a warranty), and, therefore, I am trying to determine if an SSD could > be a better choi

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 10:56:33 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 08, 2019 10:18:28 AM Curt wrote: > > On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > And someone would (or should) ask what does "frequently" mean, and > > > that is what I am trying to quantify. > > > > Sure. But below

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 08, 2019 09:41:10 AM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > There are NVMe drives and SSDs intended to be used in servers with high > workloads like cache storage. These server grade drives must be rated > for at least 3 DWPD (Drive Writes Per Day) or more. Thanks! I really hadn't encou

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello all > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > me go back and edit the subject line. Mutt can do that, too. To send v

date(1) in stretch and buster

2019-04-08 Thread Reco
Dear list, the following thing got my attention recently: stretch$ TZ=UTC date Mon Apr 8 15:22:02 UTC 2019 buster$ TZ=UTC date Mon 08 Apr 2019 03:22:04 PM UTC It's not that I depend on certain date format in scripts, but I got used to this 24-hour time format after all these years. And

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 08, 2019 10:18:28 AM Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > And someone would (or should) ask what does "frequently" mean, and that > > is what I am trying to quantify. > > Sure. But below a certain level of granularity it becomes an exercise > for which the b

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread David
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 22:38, wrote: > On Sunday, April 07, 2019 04:22:41 PM Reco wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > In my SSDs I have: > > > /sys/fs/ext4/dm-0/lifetime_write_kbytes > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is specific for SSD? > > > > N

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:39:35PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 21:33:03 +0900 > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > > My image of an ideal solution is a piece of software that can present > > email to a remote MTA (ie an MTA not on the local machine) for > > delivery, but is not itself a

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > And someone would (or should) ask what does "frequently" mean, and that is > what I am trying to quantify. Sure. But below a certain level of granularity it becomes an exercise for which the benefits remain to be established. Large files and freque

Re: Openvpn with brainpoolP256r1 works for debian clients only

2019-04-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Dominik wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using openvpn with certificates based on elliptic curves form the > brainpoolP256r1 group. This works fine if the server and the clients run > with debian as operating system. > > If I try to connect with a client based on windows or centos using the > same clien

Re: - will the speed drop when wi-fi?,

2019-04-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Gdsi wrote: > Good evening. > I about the wireless Internet. USB modem in the tight car in the parking lot > suits, but on the go there is inconvenience, he stick out from laptop in 8 > cm, it can be in the car break it off. His manual says that if plugged he to > AC adapter, he can distribut

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 08, 2019 09:32:48 AM Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, April 08, 2019 03:40:54 AM Curt wrote: > >> Maybe an SSD is not the most appropriate > >> storage device for frequent editing of large files. > > > > That is what I'm trying to decide / det

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 08.04.2019 17:39, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 08, 2019 03:40:54 AM Curt wrote: >> Maybe an SSD is not the most appropriate >> storage device for frequent editing of large files. > That is what I'm trying to decide / determine. There are NVMe drives and SSDs intended to be used

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 02:14:33PM +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. > > Hi Mark, > > Yes, have a look at the dma or nullmailer packages. There used to be > more of these programs in Debian (ssmtp, for example), but on my

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Joe
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 21:33:03 +0900 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > My image of an ideal solution is a piece of software that can present > email to a remote MTA (ie an MTA not on the local machine) for > delivery, but is not itself an MTA, and certainly has no capability > to listen for incoming mail.

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 08, 2019 08:39:58 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 08, 2019 03:40:54 AM Curt wrote: > > Maybe an SSD is not the most appropriate > > storage device for frequent editing of large files. > > That is what I'm trying to decide / determine. I guess I'll amplify that a l

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 07:54:30AM -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > You might check out sSMTP[1] > > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP > Thanks, looks like sSMTP will do the job. As was pointed out elsewhere in the thread, it seems to have been dropped from Buster, but that is no barrier for me

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-08, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 08, 2019 03:40:54 AM Curt wrote: >> Maybe an SSD is not the most appropriate >> storage device for frequent editing of large files. > > That is what I'm trying to decide / determine. It is? Sorry. I guess I was tragically thrown off the

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
You might check out sSMTP[1] [1] https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:33:03PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Hello all > > As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; > my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let > me go

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Thomas Pircher
Mark Fletcher wrote: > mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. Hi Mark, FYI, mutt does allow you to change the Subject line, in the Compose Menu, just before sending the mail. > Short version: Is it reasonable to expect a piece of software to exist > that establishes a direct connec

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 08, 2019 03:40:54 AM Curt wrote: > Maybe an SSD is not the most appropriate > storage device for frequent editing of large files. That is what I'm trying to decide / determine. > (arriving as I am now at the chocolate-covered banana > response to Euro Zone monetary integration)

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 07, 2019 04:22:41 PM Reco wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > In my SSDs I have: > > /sys/fs/ext4/dm-0/lifetime_write_kbytes > > > > I'm not sure if this is specific for SSD? > > No, it's not. It's filesystem-specific though. > Mean

Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

2019-04-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello all As I wrote this I began to consider this is slightly OT for this list; my apologies for not putting OT in the subject line but mutt won't let me go back and edit the subject line. Short version: Is it reasonable to expect a piece of software to exist that establishes a direct connect

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 07:56:22PM +1100, David wrote: > I have seen this in IRC. People join there to ask questions > about Gnome for example, but no-one providing support in the > channel is actually using Gnome themselves, because they prefer more > sophisticatedenvironments, even though it's th

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Martin
Am 08.04.19 um 14:05 schrieb Eike Lantzsch: > On Monday, April 8, 2019 12:29:44 PM -04 Martin wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have >> to press twice. Who can tell me why? >> And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? >> Sorry

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Monday, April 8, 2019 12:29:44 PM -04 Martin wrote: > Hi list, > > since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have > to press twice. Who can tell me why? > And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? > Sorry I don't get this keyboard magic in this life... >

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Martin
Am 08.04.19 um 12:43 schrieb Markus Schönhaber: > Martin, 8.4.2019 12:29 +0200: > >> since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have >> to press twice. >> Who can tell me why? >> And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? >> Sorry I don't get this keyboard ma

Re: May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Martin, 8.4.2019 12:29 +0200: > since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have > to press twice. > Who can tell me why? > And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? > Sorry I don't get this keyboard magic in this life... > > 1) On a German keyboard, it is t

May be silly question, but: Lost my qq(´) and qq(´) key

2019-04-08 Thread Martin
Hi list, since a few days, my qq(´) and qq(´)¹ don't work with a single press. I have to press twice. Who can tell me why? And, ho do I get my old single press behavior back? Sorry I don't get this keyboard magic in this life... 1) On a German keyboard, it is the key left of the backspace. Tha

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-07, Reco wrote: >> >> I'm not sure if this is specific for SSD? > > No, it's not. It's filesystem-specific though. > Meaning - you have to use ext4 to see this attribute, but the device > where the ext4 filesystem resides does not matter. > > Reco > Maybe an SSD (arriving as I am now

Openvpn with brainpoolP256r1 works for debian clients only

2019-04-08 Thread Dominik
Hi all, I'm using openvpn with certificates based on elliptic curves form the brainpoolP256r1 group. This works fine if the server and the clients run with debian as operating system. If I try to connect with a client based on windows or centos using the same client.conf, the handshake fails and