Re: A call to drop gnome

2019-04-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
On April 18, 2019 7:56:06 PM Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 4/17/19 5:57 AM, songbird wrote: what? synaptic is a GUI interface to package installation and removal. why should this block anything? dpkg and apt do those tasks just fine in a terminal. i only used synaptic in the past to get a qu

Re: A call to drop gnome

2019-04-18 Thread songbird
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > songbird wrote: > >>what? synaptic is a GUI interface to package installation >> and removal. why should this block anything? dpkg and apt >> do those tasks just fine in a terminal. i only used synaptic >> in the past to get a quick access to lists of files installed

Re: A call to drop gnome

2019-04-18 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 4/17/19 5:57 AM, songbird wrote: what? synaptic is a GUI interface to package installation and removal. why should this block anything? dpkg and apt do those tasks just fine in a terminal. i only used synaptic in the past to get a quick access to lists of files installed and locations

Re: [OT] IP address collisions

2019-04-18 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Dan Purgert writes: > Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:57 AM Michael Stone wrote: >> >>> >>> No, the ULA is the IPv6 equivalent of RFC1918 space--you can use it >>> internally without central registration by choosing a subnet from >>> fd00::/8. The space is so much larger th

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 8:29 AM Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 08:12:04AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >But isn't it irrelevant whether they pick the same prefix or not? Routers > that > >respect ULA and RFC1918 shouldn't route any traffic destined to them off > the > >logical

Re: Presentation : Debian Languages

2019-04-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Apr 2019 at 13:36:12 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > The Debian Installer translation status page reports 86 languages (besides > english): > > https://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/translation-status.html As far as the buster installer is concerned: * 76 languages are supported in th

Re: [OT] IP address collisions

2019-04-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 18/04/2019 à 14:52, Michael Stone a écrit : On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 09:37:36PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: A properly generated IPv6 ULA (Unique Local Address) prefix is unlikely to have collisions. A randomly selected subnet from 10/8 is also *unlikely* to have collisions. The proba

Re: Presentation : Debian Languages

2019-04-18 Thread Francisco M Neto
The Debian Installer translation status page reports 86 languages (besides english): https://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/translation-status.html Francisco On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 17:15 +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi > I am looking for some information as to how many languages Debian is > available i

Presentation : Debian Languages

2019-04-18 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi I am looking for some information as to how many languages Debian is available in. So far the only info I seem to find on this is here https://www.debian.org/international/index.en.html is this right, so the list there is the current list. Thanks Paul -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net htt

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:57 AM Michael Stone wrote: > >> >> No, the ULA is the IPv6 equivalent of RFC1918 space--you can use it >> internally without central registration by choosing a subnet from >> fd00::/8. The space i

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:41:18AM -0400, Celejar wrote: Alternatively, for internal-only stuff, you can use ULAs. IPv6 The context of our discussion is seamless and collision-free host access across a VPN, not "internal-only stuff" - unless your directions below are going to work even when the

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

2019-04-18 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:10:38 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:00:28AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >Can you point me to such documenation? You've said that it's a trivial, > >straightforward change: what, exactly, do I do to start using IPv6? > > Find an IPv6 provider. There's

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:00:28AM -0400, Celejar wrote: Can you point me to such documenation? You've said that it's a trivial, straightforward change: what, exactly, do I do to start using IPv6? Find an IPv6 provider. There's not much debian can document about that. Alternatively, for intern

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

2019-04-18 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:50:17 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:45:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >You make it sound like it's a trivial, straightforward change. Is it? > > Pretty much. > > >Will all my applications work correctly over IPv6 without much work? > > Unless you

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 08:12:04AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: But isn't it irrelevant whether they pick the same prefix or not? Routers that respect ULA and RFC1918 shouldn't route any traffic destined to them off the logical subnet. Right? If it didn't matter, people wouldn't keep looking

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:57 AM Michael Stone wrote: > > No, the ULA is the IPv6 equivalent of RFC1918 space--you can use it > internally without central registration by choosing a subnet from > fd00::/8. The space is so much larger that it's much less likely that > two sites would pick the same

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:06:05PM -, Curt wrote: On 2019-04-17, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 17/04/2019 à 18:42, Michael Stone a écrit : On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:38:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:10:56 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:57:43AM -04

Re: [OT] IP address collisions (was: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types)

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 09:37:36PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 17/04/2019 à 18:42, Michael Stone a écrit : On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:38:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:10:56 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:57:43AM -0400, Celejar wrote: I was ra

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:45:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: You make it sound like it's a trivial, straightforward change. Is it? Pretty much. Will all my applications work correctly over IPv6 without much work? Unless you've written something yourself (badly) IPv6 has "just worked" in debian