Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-05-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 29 mai 19, 11:12:22, songbird wrote: > > i have never experienced a problem with writing to > a NTFS file system. > > i use an external drive that has a NTFS file > system on it for backups and as a scratch space > if i need to save something large for a while. As far as I can tell th

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 30 mai 19, 18:43:05, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:08:22AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I asked on IRC, and got this answer: > > > > The archive (Packages) and individual .debs can disagree on Priority. It's > > mostly a field that has no meaning these days.

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 29 mai 19, 23:29:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > the default $PATH the installer sets up for $users, apparently does not > include any of the sbin's, only /usr/bin and /bin. I've been fixing that > for several generations of debian installs. Probably shouldn't as there > may be some good re

Re: Ping as normal user

2019-05-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
> $ getcap /bin/ping > /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep BTW, if these caps are missing you can recover them with: dpkg-reconfigure iputils-ping -- Stefan

Re: kvm win8 guest audio is terrible.

2019-05-30 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 31.05.2019 01:51, skrev R. Ramesh: More info needed: - HW (cpu, graphics, soundcard) Motherboard audio. I think it is realtek alc 887. So, bog standard. Should work. - BIOS (cpu power-states) Guest cpu? Not sure how to answer this. I did not do anything special. My command looks somet

Re: Re: kvm win8 guest audio is terrible.

2019-05-30 Thread R. Ramesh
More info needed: - HW (cpu, graphics, soundcard) Motherboard audio. I think it is realtek alc 887. - BIOS (cpu power-states) Guest cpu? Not sure how to answer this. I did not do anything special. My command looks something like this /usr/bin/kvm -usbdevice tablet -full-screen -localtime\ ?

Re: Re: kvm win8 guest audio is terrible.

2019-05-30 Thread R. Ramesh
On 5/20/19 10:35 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 5/20/19 2:55 PM, R. Ramesh wrote: I created a fresh install of debian stretch amd64. In that I created a qemu/kvm guess install of win8. It only accepted hda as a valid sound card. All others show us without drivers. So, I am limited to only HDA

Inreach mini cannot be found by KVM/Win7 guest

2019-05-30 Thread Frank Miles
Just got an InReach mini (Garmin GPS USB device). It seems ok by 'dmesg'. However [a] when mounted as a USB thumbdrive there doesn't seem to be anything usefully readable; and [b] when I bring up a Win7 guest under KVM/QEMU, win7 can't find it. This is in contrast to my Garmin etrex GPS device,

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:08:38AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Easy. You run debootstrap, set some --include options (which pull > libcap2-bin by dependency), and then you tar the whole resulting > filesystem. > tar never understood file capabilities, so they are lost in the process. Sure, tar is

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i pointed to: > > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#version-4- 0-1 > > [...] Packages may now depend on packages with a lower priority. [...] Curt wrote: > So it seems the reason invoked above is no longer valid due to a change in > policy. It can be legally c

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > So the explanation in > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721#10 > > iputils-ping, as priority "important", cannot declare a dependency on > libcap2-bin, which is priority "optional". > > is wrong and in direct contradiction to The Po

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:08:22AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I asked on IRC, and got this answer: > > The archive (Packages) and individual .debs can disagree on Priority. It's > mostly a field that has no meaning these days. > > I'm not 100% sure how to interpret that. Are

Re: Ping as normal user

2019-05-30 Thread Sven Hartge
Greg Wooledge wrote: > I asked on IRC, and got this answer: > The archive (Packages) and individual .debs can disagree on Priority. It's > mostly a field that has no meaning these days. > I'm not 100% sure how to interpret that. Are different mirrors giving > out different Packages files w

Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Richard Owlett wrote: > Up until a couple of years ago I only had dial-up. Install DVDs {or > their images} were my only choice for a repository. There are {now > forgotten} apt related quirks to be aware of. I'm now giving myself a > refresher course on using an install DVD ( o

Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time

2019-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/30/2019 07:51 AM, Curt wrote: On 2019-05-27, Richard Owlett wrote: That left me with the problem of telling the instance of apt being run internally by mmdebstrap that dvd1.iso is trusted. I unsuccessfully tried using the distribution DVD itself. What is the proper syntax to use dvd1.is

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721 > >> (libcap2-bin is recommended but is not a dependancy of iputils-ping, > >> because "iputils-ping, as priority 'important', cannot declare a > >> dependency on libcap2-bin, which is priority 'optional'"). > Why is my

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
I asked on IRC, and got this answer: The archive (Packages) and individual .debs can disagree on Priority. It's mostly a field that has no meaning these days. I'm not 100% sure how to interpret that. Are different mirrors giving out different Packages files with different Priority settings?

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 09:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 30 May 2019 04:22:16 am Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > Your first email called it "Serial busses of some kind" and you > > didn't > > type "at-spi". > > Indeed I didn't, I like you, got bit by that famous "assume" word > again. 

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:26:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 05:19:49PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > "dpkg -s" gets package state from /var/lib/dpkg/status. > > "apt-cache" also uses /var/lib/apt/lists/*. > > > > Basically your result tells that libcap2-bin is "o

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 05:19:49PM +0300, Reco wrote: > "dpkg -s" gets package state from /var/lib/dpkg/status. > "apt-cache" also uses /var/lib/apt/lists/*. > > Basically your result tells that libcap2-bin is "optional" from the > repository POV, but your local package database thinks it's "impor

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:10:55AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:00:19PM -, Curt wrote: > > On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > But libcap2-bin is priority important in both stretch and buster. > > > > Why is my Stretch apt-cache command telling m

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 30 May 2019 04:22:16 am Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Your first email called it "Serial busses of some kind" and you didn't > type "at-spi". Indeed I didn't, I like you, got bit by that famous "assume" word again. That mail was composed over about a 30 minute span while I was trying t

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:00:19PM -, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > But libcap2-bin is priority important in both stretch and buster. >> >> Why is my Stretch apt-cache command telling me it's priority optional? >> Or am I once a

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:00:19PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > But libcap2-bin is priority important in both stretch and buster. > > Why is my Stretch apt-cache command telling me it's priority optional? > Or am I once again missing some essential thing? Uh... a

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:11:44AM -, Curt wrote: >> There is a bug related to this imbroglio: >> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721 >> (libcap2-bin is recommended but is not a dependancy of iputils-ping, >> because "iputils-ping,

Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-27, Richard Owlett wrote: > > That left me with the problem of telling the instance of apt being run > internally by mmdebstrap that dvd1.iso is trusted. I unsuccessfully > tried using the distribution DVD itself. > > What is the proper syntax to use dvd1.iso {preferred} or DVD in dri

Re: Fresh run of mmdebstrap - was [Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time]

2019-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-05-30 13:01:10) > On 05/29/2019 03:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > mmdebstrap does not take debian-installer organized data as input. > > According to the man page: > [https://manpages.debian.org/testing/mmdebstrap/mmdebstrap.1.en.html] > > In contrast to deboot

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:11:44AM -, Curt wrote: > There is a bug related to this imbroglio: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721 > (libcap2-bin is recommended but is not a dependancy of iputils-ping, > because "iputils-ping, as priority 'important', cannot declare a >

Re: Fresh run of mmdebstrap - was [Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time]

2019-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2019 03:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: mmdebstrap does not take debian-installer organized data as input. According to the man page: [https://manpages.debian.org/testing/mmdebstrap/mmdebstrap.1.en.html] In contrast to debootstrap it uses apt to resolve dependencies and is thus able t

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-29, Andy Smith wrote: > > How did you install this system? Because /bin/ping is supposed to > come with file capabilities such that the user can allow it to do > what it needs to do (this is part of what 'dpkg-reconfigure > iputils-ping' restores). So it would be interesting to know how

Re: Debian Stretch, no password prompt for luks-encrypted home partition during boot

2019-05-30 Thread Sergey Belyashov
I have found related bug in the Debian bug system: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=868164 пн, 27 мая 2019 г. в 13:09, Sergey Belyashov : > I have system with soft raid and /home is encrypted (luks with password). > When I boot it using default boot kernel options (ro quiet) syst

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-29, Gene Heskett wrote: > > One of the useless things still running is some sort of an spi buss, but > this motherboard has no such hardware. I can kill it with htop, but how > do I remove it totally. From a seaarch in synaptic, it has nothing to do > with Asistive Technology Servic

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Your first email called it "Serial busses of some kind" and you didn't type "at-spi". Contrary to you 2 sentences later, at-spi is indeed for Assistive Technologies, Service Provider Interface. An API for assistive software to talk to desktops. So quite possibly you want to keep it around. I would

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Your first email called it "Serial busses of some kind" and you didn't type "at-spi". Contrary to you 2 sentences later, at-spi is indeed for Assistive Technologies, Service Provider Interface, an API for Assistive desktops. So quite possibly you want to keep it around. I would suggest looking at d