Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 08:09 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 06:20:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? of the partition

Re: where are the vte2.91 packages of version 0.57.90-1 (experimental)?

2019-08-25 Thread Vincent Cunningham
> Hi, > > Since the last upload of version 0.57.90-1 to experimental on the > 21th August ( > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/vte2.91), the packages are not in the > scope of > apt (deb https://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non- > free). > > But regarding the > https://packages.

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 06:20:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> > > > When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? > > > of the partition which affect the Inodes. > > >

where are the vte2.91 packages of version 0.57.90-1 (experimental)?

2019-08-25 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, Since the last upload of version 0.57.90-1 to experimental on the 21th August ( https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/vte2.91), the packages are not in the scope of apt (deb https://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free). But regarding the https://packages.debian.org/experimenta

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread list
Hello All. I want to thank you all for your help, feedback, link, command line and experience you shared here after my noob question. I get better understanding now, thanks to you. Godspeed !

Partial resolution - was [Re: Problems configuring arandr]

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/24/2019 11:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a basic step by step howto for using arandr. My searches are not turning up useful links. I used arandr several years ago. Not sure whether or not it was on this laptop. [snip] I vaguely remember having a similar problem the first ti

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 03:25:09 PM David Wright wrote: > grep -a '^From ' DIRECTORY/* | less > > where DIRECTORY is wherever you keep your mail, will give an indication > of how many emails you have stored. Then add your INBOX. My own totals > around 70,000. My 40GB root filesystem has 2½mil

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 08:10:07 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Hmm, this raised a question in my mind (not for myself so much) -- I use mbox > (vs. maildir) as much as possible to store emails. > > (kmail (the older version I use (on Wheezy) uses maildir for the inbox and > maybe some ot

Re: /usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 10:54:45 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 25/08/2019 à 10:06, Hadi Motamedi a écrit : > > On 8/25/19, der.hans wrote: > > > > > > du -sh /usr/* > > > > > > That will show you disk usage per directory in /usr/. > > My preferred command is > > du -hxd1 /usr | sort -h >

Re: Help building unstable git source packages for buster to get missing features ?

2019-08-25 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/25/19, Daniel Rossi wrote: > I've tried to figure out this myself, but have been forced here. I need > to enable a feature which was added in git but not packaged for buster > yet, I have exactly the same problem with Ubuntu Bionic. I would like to > make unstable packages of this for releasi

Re: OT: AI

2019-08-25 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
In the end, the Turing Test was another AI sham. Then humans couldnt tell the difference any more :-) Blade Runner is now. To save humanity we must become part machine. That is not crossing a divide, merely the next step in our evolution. In a straight line from our prior milestones. On Sun, Aug 2

About the "The AI Problem, historical perspective" thread

2019-08-25 Thread Alexander Wirt
Hi, I was pointed to that thread within a listmaster complaint. Please let me all remember you to our netiquette [1] and our code of conduct [2]. The thread is also completly off-topic for debian-users and I will shut it down. Alex - Debian Listmaster P.S. I am not subscribed and answering to t

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 25 August 2019 10:50:36 deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > >> I might find any arguments to the contrary to be interesting. > > > > I think he was just writing a story. > > It is not just a story - there is deep philosophy behind. This is a > philosophy that is being forgotten now da

Re: why won't ff look at this url?

2019-08-25 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:47 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 24 August 2019 19:31:13 Larry Martell wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 7:27 PM bw wrote: > > > In-Reply-To: <201908241021.59396.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > > > > > > Greetings folks; > > > > > > https://abcnews4.com/news/nation

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:37:32 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > It seems clear to me that when Asimov formulated the Three Laws, he > either failed to account for the possibility of legitimate cases for > robots injuring or otherwise harming humans (war, law enforcement, > private security, ...), or - a

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: >> I might find any arguments to the contrary to be interesting. > > I think he was just writing a story. It is not just a story - there is deep philosophy behind. This is a philosophy that is being forgotten now days. I am afraid modern children will have hard time understan

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread John Hasler
The Wanderer writes: > I might find any arguments to the contrary to be interesting. I think he was just writing a story. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > [1] I prefer "A robot should do its job and not hurt anyone." Joe writes: >The elephant in the room being in the definition of 'hurt'. No more so than "injure" or "harm". -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-08-25 at 09:19, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 07:26:12 -0500 John Hasler > wrote: >> [1] I prefer "A robot should do its job and not hurt anyone." > > The elephant in the room being in the definition of 'hurt'. > > https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-21/youtube-banning-robot-figh

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 08/25/2019 07:36 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: 2. What is the proper search term to use for something whose dimensions     would be "megabytes/inode"? {I'll use "blob" for now } This is just a ratio without any actual object associated. It shou

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread Joe
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 07:26:12 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > > [1] I prefer "A robot should do its job and not hurt anyone." The elephant in the room being in the definition of 'hurt'. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-21/youtube-banning-robot-fighting-videos-over-animal-cruelty -- Joe

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 08:04 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, sorry i sent this person-to-person software discussion mail here by mistake. Just wanted to state that everybody should ignore it. But well. So if anybody has two cents about libraries for RAR, PAR2, or alike, i'd like to read.

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, sorry i sent this person-to-person software discussion mail here by mistake. Just wanted to state that everybody should ignore it. But well. So if anybody has two cents about libraries for RAR, PAR2, or alike, i'd like to read.

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 07:36 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 25/08/2019 à 13:20, Richard Owlett a écrit : How do I search for answer to my inadequately phrased question below. 1. I assume that sector size is a _TERM_ reserved for something fixed     when the disk is manufactured. With modern disks, ther

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 14:10, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : I suppose that, for someone who was going to archive a lot of mail and store it in maildir format, they might have to consider more inodes (i.e., the news option). Probably. Or use a filesystem type such as Btrfs or XFS which, unlike ext*, d

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 13:20, Richard Owlett a écrit : How do I search for answer to my inadequately phrased question below. 1. I assume that sector size is a _TERM_ reserved for something fixed    when the disk is manufactured. With modern disks, there are two sector sizes : - the physical sector s

Re: OT: AI

2019-08-25 Thread John Hasler
You are all AI's. I'm the only human here. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: OT: AI (was: Re: why won't ff look at this url?)

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
Hmm, I probably should have replied to the (sub-)thread started by bw, "How good is AI?" On Sunday, August 25, 2019 08:20:00 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 24, 2019 08:47:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > No programmer is good enough to make a bot like Gene. > > things.>

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > That's not what I mean. The Three Laws are statements of moral > principles [...] t writes: > That's a subtle trojan exploiting our everyday's geek's deepest > vulnerability: > "Morals are messy and human: ergo they don't exist. So Tom, > implement that weaponized AI as I told you

OT: AI (was: Re: why won't ff look at this url?)

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, August 24, 2019 08:47:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > No programmer is good enough to make a bot like Gene. I disagree, now that I think about it. I remember Lisa, and I know there have been great advances in AI (e.g., neural networks, ...) What a stroke of genius by the programme

You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, August 24, 2019 08:33:30 PM Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote: > > > > What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop > > environment ? What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in > > an usual desktop environm

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 06:07 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, JBThiel wrote: [snip] 4) I have thought that Xorriso could be listed under Archivers, This is one of its roles. Main role for me personally. Wikipedia expects third-party writers to describe things. People, who are involved in the described th

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> Hello All. Thank you for any help, advises, explanation one's can provide. When installing a Debian - Buster here. When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? of the p

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, JBThiel wrote: > 1)  '-add ./  -- '    fails as below. Looks like an old bug. I will investigate further. > 2)  I recently realized that -check_media  does not check the md5 unless > '-md5 on'  or -for_backup. This is a featurei explained in the man page. The MD5 verification can be switch

Re: /usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread root
Hi, if your /usr is full, you can do this: 1. Add a fresh harrdrive into your computer, format it ext2, 3 or 4, 2. mount it to some dir like /disk1 3. Then rsync all files from /usr to /disk1 4. edit /etc/fstab, so that the new harddrive is mounted to /usr 5. remount all, or reboot 6. You c

Help building unstable git source packages for buster to get missing features ?

2019-08-25 Thread Daniel Rossi
I've tried to figure out this myself, but have been forced here. I need to enable a feature which was added in git but not packaged for buster yet, I have exactly the same problem with Ubuntu Bionic. I would like to make unstable packages of this for releasing to raspberry PI also. I've tried

Re: /usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 10:06, Hadi Motamedi a écrit : On 8/25/19, der.hans wrote: du -sh /usr/* That will show you disk usage per directory in /usr/. My preferred command is du -hxd1 /usr | sort -h - ignores other filesystem (e.g. if you mounted something on /usr/local) - does not ignore "dot" f

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 02:33, Rick Thomas a écrit : On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote: What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop environment ? What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in an usual desktop environment ? I don’t think there’s an

Re: To burn cd or dvd with debian 10

2019-08-25 Thread john doe
On 8/24/2019 9:08 PM, Simeone Dominique wrote: > Good evening, > I search about of software but i didn't find for burn cd or dvd? > Someone, does't have an idea about this? > Best wishes > > Mr.Dominique Simeone > What are the issues you are having with brasero? What about your firmware issue(s)?

Re: /usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread Hadi Motamedi
On 8/25/19, der.hans wrote: > Am 25. Aug, 2019 schwätzte Hadi Motamedi so: > > moin moin Hadi, > > du -sh /usr/* > > That will show you disk usage per directory in /usr/. > > You can then investigate the directories using lots of space. > > You might also verify you don't have a bunch of deleted f

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 09:05:33PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > I doubt that anyone working in the AI field has ever taken Asimov's > > Three Laws seriously. > > Gene writes: > > And that scares the hell outta me, John. > > That's not what I mean. The Three Laws are statements of mor

Re: /usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread der.hans
Am 25. Aug, 2019 schwätzte Hadi Motamedi so: moin moin Hadi, du -sh /usr/* That will show you disk usage per directory in /usr/. You can then investigate the directories using lots of space. You might also verify you don't have a bunch of deleted files that haven't yet been removed from the d

/usr 100%

2019-08-25 Thread Hadi Motamedi
Dear All On my server , the "df -m" shows /usr as 100% occupied . How can I find big size files on it to delete someone to free more space ? Thank you

Re: The AI Problem, historical perspective

2019-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 August 2019 22:05:33 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > I doubt that anyone working in the AI field has ever taken Asimov's > > Three Laws seriously. > > Gene writes: > > And that scares the hell outta me, John. > > That's not what I mean. The Three Laws are statements of moral > pr