Re: Problem with fish in plasma

2020-01-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 1:35 PM Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I got into a problem with "fish" in plasma. > Fish Shell? When I do the correct syntax like the following example > > fish://username@192.168.1.45:/home/username > URL, as in plugged into a Browser? > > I am running into a gdbus.error.

Re: Problem with fish in plasma

2020-01-31 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 31. Januar 2020, 10:18:43 CET schrieb Kenneth Parker: Hi Kenneth, no, it is not the fish shell. I discovered, it is kioslave5, that is responsible. When I am at the user, I will check it, if the problem is solved, when I delete all kio* files below .kde, .config and .local. Hope t

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : However, before loading preseed.cfg, installer asks for computer name: I would like this question to be asked in French and more importantly to have the keyboard layout configured in French. I have tri

Re: cpu frequence

2020-01-31 Thread Gerard ROBIN
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:11:49AM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 00:11:49 +0100 > From: Linux-Fan > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: cpu frequence > > Gerard ROBIN writes: > > > Hello, > > the maximum frequency of my cpu is 2.8 GHz and under "bullseye" the > >

KDE failed to start and CPU lockups when openvswitch enabled

2020-01-31 Thread John Mok
Hi all, I use Buster + Xen on Lenovo ThinkPad P52 (Intel 8750H). When enabled openvswitch, the following problems found :- 1) KDE failed to start 2) frequent CPU lockups 3) USB storage failed to mount (and lockup) I hope someone could point me how to resolve those problems. Thanks a lot. John

Re: Problem with fish in plasma

2020-01-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 4:30 AM Hans wrote: > Am Freitag, 31. Januar 2020, 10:18:43 CET schrieb Kenneth Parker: > > Hi Kenneth, > > > > no, it is not the fish shell. I discovered, it is kioslave5, that is > responsible. When I am at the user, I will check it, if the problem is > solved, when I dele

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And counting interfaces has worked for me for a couple decades, on many > systems and several OSs. FWIW, this whole mess exists for the simple reason that there isn't any kind of "aliasing" available for network interfaces. When stable names were added to block devices, it didn't break anything

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:58:47AM -0700, ghe wrote: I looked at dmesg a bit. I greped it for 'enp' and there was a funny joke in the first 2 lines (of the grep output): [2.181317] e1000e :08:00.0 enp8s0: renamed from eth1 [2.422105] e1000e :07:00.0 enp7s0: renamed from eth0 So

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Thu 30 Jan 2020 at 11:58:47 (-0700), ghe wrote: > On 1/29/20 7:06 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > These boards, do their PCI addresses have the save bus number but > > different slot/device numbers? dmesg or kern.log will give you > > those: they look like NN:DD.F optionally preceded by :, wh

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Michael Stone wrote: > As a programmer you should be concerned with making sure that the packets go > in and out of the correct physical hardware. If the name doesn't relate to > the physical harder that's a harder problem to solve. You (and everyone > else) could reimplement that in software at a

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 09:39:37AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: Michael Stone wrote: As a programmer you should be concerned with making sure that the packets go in and out of the correct physical hardware. If the name doesn't relate to the physical harder that's a harder problem to solve. You (and

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 31, 2020 09:39:37 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > All of this would be, I think, 99% better than what we have now. +1 -- sounds good!

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 09:39:37AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Maybe we should ask the OS to actually help, instead of > "helping" us. > > For example, the OS knows when it is being installed. At install > time, it could enumerate NICs and assign them permanent names > based on the MAC addresses: e

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 09:52:29AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, January 31, 2020 09:39:37 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > All of this would be, I think, 99% better than what we have now. > > +1 -- sounds good! Yeah, but it isn't. As Michael points out, most solutions proposed here h

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:01:23AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: The primary drawback of this method is that in the common case of a single-user home desktop system with a single NIC, the name "eth0" is expected to Just Work for whatever NIC happens to be in the system at the time. It's also fund

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:10:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:01:23AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >The primary drawback of this method is that in the common case of a > >single-user home desktop system with a single NIC, the name "eth0" is > >expected to Just Work fo

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > When the persistent schema came up, I took interest in it, [...] > but for me and my installations, it wasn't worth the more > complicated names. I still do "sudo ifup eth0" and don't really > want to do "sudo ifup &$#*@%#". You

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: > Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : >> Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : >> >>> However, before loading preseed.cfg, installer asks for computer name: I >>> would like this question to be asked in French and more importantly to >>>

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:38:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > When the persistent schema came up, I took interest in it, [...] > > > but for me and my installations, it wasn't worth the more > > complicated names. I still do

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:53:28PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I see, thanks. I must admit that I don't know very much about how > systemd names network interfaces. In practice, what I get to see > roughly follows the known conventions (bus number, etc). > > Udev is/was just a mechanism to im

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:05:32AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:53:28PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I see, thanks. I must admit that I don't know very much about how > > systemd names network interfaces. In practice, what I get to see > > roughly follows the known

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:10:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:01:23AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: >The primary drawback of this method is that in the common case of a >single-user home desktop system wi

Re: How to configure e-net port again

2020-01-31 Thread Dennis Wicks
Daryl wrote on 1/30/20 7:52 PM: On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:48:36 -0600 Dennis Wicks wrote: I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it was but it wasn't picking up all the info from the DHCP server, specifically the IP ad

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:10:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: because they don't need to know that. This is an issue mostly for people who know a little bit, want to tinker, and become irrationally angry when they need to learn s

Re: How to configure e-net port again

2020-01-31 Thread Dennis Wicks
john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM: On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it was but it How did you try to change your e-net to use dhcp? wasn't picking up all the info fr

Re: How to configure e-net port again

2020-01-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 12:27 PM Dennis Wicks wrote: > john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM: > > On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > >> I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. > >> > >> I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it was but it > > > > How did y

Re: How to configure e-net port again

2020-01-31 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2020 6:16 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Daryl wrote on 1/30/20 7:52 PM: >> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:48:36 -0600 >> Dennis Wicks wrote: >> >>> I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. >>> >>> I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it >>> was but it wasn't pick

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Bob Weber
On 1/31/20 2:05 AM, ghe wrote: On Jan 30, 2020, at 04:48 PM, Bob Weber wrote: "Example 3. Debugging NamePolicy= assignments" near the bottom of the page at "https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.link.html"; Yeah. That's one I looked at. The one with the table of the Etherne

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: > First I created  /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the MAC address and > the name eth0.  If the MAC changes then there are other characteristics to > add to the [Match] section to uniquely define the port (see above link). > >

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: First I created  /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the MAC address and the name eth0.  If the MAC changes then there are other characteristics to add to the [Match] section to uniquely define the port (see above link). --- roo

Re: Problem with fish in plasma

2020-01-31 Thread mick crane
On 2020-01-31 13:24, Kenneth Parker wrote: Package kio (KDE Input Output Framework), allowing remote access to files. The package description included mention of "ssh (fish)", hence your url. was please to see mc does ssh connections mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : However, before loading preseed.cfg, installer asks for computer name: I would like this question to be asked in Fre

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2020 8:37 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: > Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : >> On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: >>> Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : > However, before loading preseed.cfg, installer asks for

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Yvan Masson (2020-01-31 20:37:29) > Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : > > On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: > >> Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : > >>> Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : > >>> > However, before loading preseed.cfg, installer ask

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Bob Weber
On 1/31/20 1:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: First I created  /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the MAC address and the name eth0.  If the MAC changes then there are other characteristics to add to the [Match] section to uniquely defin

Re: How to configure e-net port again

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:27:06AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM: On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thought it was but it How did you try to cha

Re: Fresh install UEFI debian-10.2.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1 will not boot

2020-01-31 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-01-29 23:07, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good afternoon I take it that you have booted the .iso and run the installer - on to a separate usb stick. Where did you install grub?If by chance it installed on to sda, then allowing the PC to just boot should run grub and offer the choice o

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting john doe (2020-01-31 20:54:09) > On 1/31/2020 8:37 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: > > Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : > >> On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: > >>> Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : > Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : > > > How

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Bob Weber
On 1/31/20 1:41 PM, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: First I created /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the MAC address and the name eth0.  If the MAC changes then there are other characteristics to add to the [Match] section to uniquely define

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 31/01/2020 à 20:54, john doe a écrit : On 1/31/2020 8:37 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Masson a écrit : However, before loading pres

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2020 9:38 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: > > > Le 31/01/2020 à 20:54, john doe a écrit : >> On 1/31/2020 8:37 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: >>> Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: > Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : >> Le 29/01/202

Re: Can't find a way to preseed keyboard layout for all d-i questions

2020-01-31 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 31/01/2020 à 21:24, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : Quoting john doe (2020-01-31 20:54:09) On 1/31/2020 8:37 PM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 31/01/2020 à 16:50, john doe a écrit : On 1/31/2020 10:36 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 29/01/2020 à 18:16, MAS Jean-Louis a écrit : Le 29/01/2020 à 14:50, Yvan Ma

Re: How to configure e-net port again -- SOLVED (sort of)

2020-01-31 Thread Dennis Wicks
Michael Stone wrote on 1/31/20 2:00 PM: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:27:06AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM: On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past week. I tried to change my e-net to use dhcp, which I thou

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 03:29:44PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: On 1/31/20 1:41 PM, Michael Stone wrote: You went through more effort than you needed to. You can turn off predictable names by simply booting with net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command line (you can make that permanent by editing

Re: How to configure e-net port again -- SOLVED (sort of)

2020-01-31 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2020 9:57 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Michael Stone wrote on 1/31/20 2:00 PM: >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:27:06AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: >>> john doe wrote on 1/31/20 1:00 AM: On 1/31/2020 2:48 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I am running Debian Buster 10, upgrade within the past wee

Re: How to configure e-net port again -- SOLVED (sort of)

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 02:57:13PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Michael Stone wrote on 1/31/20 2:00 PM: Do you remember which one you used? Both can be used, but if you try to use both at the same time you'll have problems. I'd suggest uninstalling one of them, or at the very least make sure that

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > FWIW, I would never force something to use "eth0" because it makes it > impossible to see at first glance that all of the default behavior has > been overridden. If you see a network interface called eth0 in a "modern" D

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread ghe
On 1/31/20 11:31 AM, Bob Weber wrote: > I just ran a test on a VM that I installed last week so it is pretty > much up to date.  I ran the command "ip a" which gave me the current > undesirable name "enp1s0" and MAC address. Check. > First I created  /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the M

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 02:31:56PM -0700, ghe wrote: > So in my current config, eth0 gets changed to enp7s0, ifup is called to > bring up enp7s0, ifup fails because enp7s0 doesn't exist in the > interfaces file, then enp7s0 gets changed back to eth0. As a programmer, > I'm quite used to flaws in so

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 12:28:51AM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 03:57:44PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: FWIW, I would never force something to use "eth0" because it makes it impossible to see at first glance that all of the default behavior has been overridden. If you

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:05:34PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [... > >See? I do care. > > In context, Greg talked about the "common case" [...] Yes, and I do appreciate highly that the "non-common case" is still possible. > >

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:19:19PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:10:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > >>because they don't need to know that. This is an issue > >>mostly for people who know a little bit

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 Jan 2020 at 14:31:56 (-0700), ghe wrote: > On 1/31/20 11:31 AM, Bob Weber wrote: > > > I just ran a test on a VM that I installed last week so it is pretty > > much up to date.  I ran the command "ip a" which gave me the current > > undesirable name "enp1s0" and MAC address. > > Check.

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread ghe
On 1/31/20 2:42 PM, Reco wrote: > As a programmer, you should be familiar with it :) Very. And misconfigs too... -- Glenn English

Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-01-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, with today's upload of systemd 244.1-2 I finally enabled persistent journal by default [1]. It has been a long requested feature. The package will create a directory /var/log/journal on upgrades and new installs, which enables persistent journal in so called auto mode. If you decide, that yo

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 31 ian 20, 23:42:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Exactly. I do prefer to be prepared for those corner cases and to > learn to deal with them. A 99.8% system is, in this context not > superior to a 92% system. 89,24% of people quoting a statistic just invented it ;) Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 31 ian 20, 15:00:15, Bob Weber wrote: > On 1/31/20 1:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Bob Weber wrote: > > > First I created  /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0.link using the MAC address > > > and > > > the name eth0.  If the MAC changes then there are ot

Re: Ethernet trouble

2020-01-31 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 09:25:06AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 31 ian 20, 23:42:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Exactly. I do prefer to be prepared for those corner cases and to > > learn to deal with them. A 99.8% system is, in this context not > > superior to a 92% system. > > 89,