Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Vincent Lammens
>> https://vincentlammens.net
>
> Access denied. Cert problem.
This was a good one, Gene :)
But lets give the youth a chance :)
Vincent, when I open http://vincentlammens.net it redirects correctly to
https://vincentlammens.net/en and opens, but as Gene n
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 01:59:11 Vincent Lammens wrote:
> Hi Rick
>
> You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and
> comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all
> kinds of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and
> has a few plugins
Hi Rick
You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and
comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all kinds
of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and has a few
plugins to add webdav for example.
---
Regards
Vincent Lammens
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
"Rick Thomas" wrote:
> Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
> but almost any Linux will do.
I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me quite
well.
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The covid-19 situation is giving me lots of free time recently, so I've ordered
a Raspberry Pi 4 with delivery expected sometime this week.
I'd like to use it for a NAS for the home network, so my family can share files
without resorting to sneaker-net.
We have a full range of clients -- Mac, W
On Mon 23 Mar 2020 at 20:27:31 (+0100), Klaus Singvogel wrote:
> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list,
> > there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of
> > systemd?
>
> My reasons:
[…]
> Logging (jour
On Mon 23 Mar 2020 at 19:16:33 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need systemd's
> >tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem diagnostics
> >much more difficult.
>
> You mig
On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 00:35:39 (+0200), Anastasios Lisgaras wrote:
>
> My update/upgrade system script is about that :
> sudo apt update && sudo apt list --upgradable -a && sudo apt
> dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt autoclean -y &&
> sudo apt clean -y
>
> But I want for *eac
On 23/03/2020 23:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:15:14 +
Michael Howard wrote:
On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
Jude DaShiell wrote:
There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
That system maintain
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:15:14 +
Michael Howard wrote:
> On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
> > Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> >> There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
> >> That system maintained sysv and still has sup
I did. I just did not use "full-upgrade" option. I upgraded package by
package resolving all dependencies and I had to install elogind but it
is not needed to start X system. It was just for dependencies.
Please, could you explain the race of conditions risk race?
Thanks.
Toni Mas
Missatge de R
On Monday 23 March 2020 16:34:22 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > That which I have managed to get my head wrapped around, do seem to
> > be a better idea. But thats far from all of it at the present time.
> > For starters, lets say you know
hello,
I would like to ask if there are any drawbacks in installing software
using Flatpak. As far as I understand, this installation method
installs packages in an isolated way (whatever that means).
I would imagine this would require more disk space. But will
performance of the software be affec
On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 18:03 -0800, Ernesto Alfonso wrote:
> I was able to use linphone, which is available in buster.
>
> Ernesto
Linphone is also available from a Flatpak. The newer version is much
better than the one in the Debian main repository.
This information is wowfactor 10!
I never knew any of this. I have a an old but in excellent condition a
Sony Vaio and a 16 years old Macbook.
1. Sony has no OS . I would like a good system installed.
So What do uou suggest n how can I down load ?
Should I use usb stick?
2. Macbook it has OS but
Hello,
My update/upgrade system script is about that :
sudo apt update && sudo apt list --upgradable -a && sudo apt
dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt autoclean -y &&
sudo apt clean -y
But I want for *each* package that has an update available, before I
update it to see its cha
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 19:51:18 +0100
kjo...@fastmail.com (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
> Well. I am quite happy when systemd start to govern
> services/daemons.
Good for you.
I don't suppose you use gpsd under systemd. The gpsd maintainers hate
systemd with a passion because systemd makes assumptions abou
On Monday, March 23, 2020 02:20:19 PM David Christensen wrote:
> The first link is:
>
> https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_inspir
> on_laptop/inspiron-1501_owner%27s%20manual_en-us.pdf
Thanks, that worked.
> Was your laptop originally sold in Finland?
Not as fa
Gene Heskett wrote:
> That along would ease the transition, and reduce the the systemd hate and
> discontent on ALL of these lists. And justify the reason for the
> individual change. None of us like being kept in the dark.
Absolutely agree with this. It took me about an year to read myself in t
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> That which I have managed to get my head wrapped around, do seem to be a
> better idea. But thats far from all of it at the present time. For
> starters, lets say you know you are having a dhcpd problem, so you go
> read man dhcpd,
On Monday 23 March 2020 15:16:33 Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400
>
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need
> > systemd's tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem
> > diagnostics much more difficult.
>
> You might add 5a)
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list,
> there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of
> systemd?
My reasons:
Can't debug the start / stop of daemons as good as before. "(ba)sh -x" no
more working.
Not ab
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need systemd's
>tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem diagnostics
>much more difficult.
>
You might add 5a): Why?
There's not exactly a burning need to
Tony van der Hoff writes:
> On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote:
>> On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
>>> Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>
>
>
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the
> list, there's been enough of tha
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:48 PM Tony van der Hoff
wrote:
>
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the
> list, there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so
> afraid of systemd?
>
I consider myself Neutral on the subject, actually wanting to educate
m
Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > I ask the question in all innocence, purely to understand whypeople seem to
> > want to jump through hoops to avoid it.
> >
>
> Maybe lack of self medication?
> Duck...
Not only was that not helpful
On 2020-03-23 03:43, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 01:42:40 AM David Christensen wrote:
If I am reading the user manual for my E1505 and the Intel ICH7
datasheet correctly, the ExpressCard port in my laptop should be PCIe 1x
at 2.5 Gbps. I would expect your E1501 to be equ
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
[...]
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list,
> there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of
> systemd?
>
Who said "Jehovah"?
> I have used it since the beginn
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list,
> there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of
> systemd?
Well, there seem to be several reasons. In no particular order:
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote:
> > On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
> > > Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > >
>
>
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list,
> there's been enough
On 23/03/2020 16:31, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote:
On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
Jude DaShiell wrote:
I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the
list, there's been enough of th
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote:
> >On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
> >>Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >>
>
>
> I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to ups
On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote:
On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
Jude DaShiell wrote:
I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the
list, there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so
afraid
On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
Jude DaShiell wrote:
There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
That system maintained sysv and still has support.
ASCII is Stretch without systemd or any of the dependencies. Devuan
hasn'
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:28:25AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
> Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> > There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
> > That system maintained sysv and still has support.
>
> ASCII is Stretch without systemd or an
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
> That system maintained sysv and still has support.
ASCII is Stretch without systemd or any of the dependencies. Devuan
hasn't release its "Buster" version yet.
B
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:37:47AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
> That system maintained sysv and still has support.
Going by [1], I'd guess Devuan ASCII is roughly Debian Stretch. More
knowledgeable statements always welcome, o
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:51:53 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Hello Andrei,
>A standard[1] Debian install "requires[2] networking only for
>(security) updates.
Thanks for the info, Andrei.
A classic case of "a little knowledge" My little knowledge, of
course.
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There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster.
That system maintained sysv and still has support.
#!/usr/bin/env bash
# file: getdevuan.sh - get devuan iso.
wget -bc
http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/minimal-live/devuan_ascii_2.1_amd64_minimal-live.iso
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020
On Lu, 23 mar 20, 10:47:14, Brad Rogers wrote:
>
> TBH, I wasn't sure. Certain things require networking availability, so
> that got me thinking. Anyhow, that turned out to be a blind alley.
A standard[1] Debian install "requires[2] networking only for (security)
updates.
[1] i.e. something
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:26:05 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Hello Andrei,
>In the default install the display manager does not wait for networking
>(why should it?), your problem is most likely elsewhere.
TBH, I wasn't sure. Certain things require networking availability, so
that got me thinking
On Monday, March 23, 2020 02:27:17 AM David Christensen wrote:
> The 187 MB/s is a worst-case scenario for FHD video -- decode on the CPU
> and send uncompressed frames over USB 3.0 to the video RAM in the
> docking station. Hopefully Debian, Linux, Xorg, whatever, have the
> architecture and driv
On Monday, March 23, 2020 01:42:40 AM David Christensen wrote:
> If I am reading the user manual for my E1505 and the Intel ICH7
> datasheet correctly, the ExpressCard port in my laptop should be PCIe 1x
> at 2.5 Gbps. I would expect your E1501 to be equivalent (?).
I bought it used, don't have t
On Du, 22 mar 20, 14:43:37, Brad Rogers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For the first time, I'm having problems installing Debian testing on new
> hardware;
>
> Asus TUF X570 Plus mobo with onboard Realtek network L8200A i/f
>
> As things stand, it /seems/ that the boot process is waiting for the
> network
Please do not top post. Reply to the list.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 09:59:25AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote:
>
>
> Rly, systemd is, between things, a way to be sure when and after what
> something starts isn't it ?
Does not make it any special, in comparing to any other init system in
existence.
Rly, systemd is, between things, a way to be sure when and after what something
starts isn't it ?
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Da: "Reco"
A: "debian-user"
Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 9:27:29
Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd?
Hi.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato Gal
Hi,
[]
> Right, your basic problem is that your interfaces are now names
> enp7s0
> and
> wlp6s0
>
> not eth0 and wifi0 or whatever they used to be.
>
> Fix them in /etc/network/interfaces, double check your iptables rules
> are either using the new names or don't mention interfaces at all, a
Hi.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote:
>
> linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want
> to do it ?
.
Rly?
Reco
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote:
>
> linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want
> to do it ?
I think we've had enough of this already.
See, Marc?
Cheers
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On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 09:57:36PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2020-03-22 at 21:21, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>
> > [...] Then I realized that I
> > had only done an "upgrade" but not a "full-upgrade". After that, X
> > would not start [...]
> How are you starting X?
>
> I start it manually from
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 06:21:56PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Supposedly, one can install/upgrade to Buster while maintaining sysv
> as init. Or has this changed. Over the past several months I have
> been attempting to upgrade to Buster, but I have been completely
> unsuccessful.
>
> Has anyo
linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want to
do it ?
- Messaggio originale -
Da: "Felix Miata"
A: "debian-user"
Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 8:08:28
Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd?
Marc Shapiro composed on 2020-03-22 18:21 (UTC-0700):
> afte
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 21:10:48 +0100
Bernd Gruber wrote:
Hello Bernd,
>Brad Rogers wrote:
>
>> Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon
>have you looked this up, I find it several times on ddg.
Briefly, but didn't pursue it, before I took myself down a blind alley.
I've not got time to look
Marc Shapiro composed on 2020-03-22 18:21 (UTC-0700):
> after 21 to 22 years of using
> Debian (since Bo), do I have to switch to another linux distro?
AFAIK, no one has ever died as a consequence of using an OS with systemd. So,
no,
you don't "have to" switch to another distro. You can do as
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