Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > You did not understand. Doing this removes both the transitional > package *and* the new (renamed) package... unless one marks the new > package as manually installed (which is the thing that I wanted to > be done automatically). > If there is a package depending on anot

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > I think that you misunderstood. I'm not talking about the build log > (which the end user will never see), but the Debian changelog file, > which will be installed as > > /usr/share/doc//changelog.Debian.gz > > For instance, for libtool on my machines I can see e.g.: >

xHCI Host Controller page faults

2020-04-21 Thread Jiangsu Kumquat
When I boot my computer, I get these messages: https://pastebin.com/6m4fa65W Is it a hardware issue or do I need to configure something?

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph Katz
On 4/21/20 1:05 PM, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> No, but a connector. And depending on the mechanical environment, >> those sometimes loosen too. > > Yes noticed on few that if disk is not mounted properly it starts sliding > out. So reinserting the disk after checking connector

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread Tom Dial
On 4/21/20 06:24, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 4/21/20 2:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 21 April 2020 03:07:31 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:59:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 20 April 2020 21:44:10 Ralph Katz wrote: > Hi -- Please help me diagn

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-21 21:02:42 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2020-04-21 17:39:55 +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 17:07:52 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >> > Sometimes packages get renamed. [...] > >> > > >> > [...] if one > >> > wants to remove it,

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-21 20:53:42 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Patches don't add log messages in general. I meant like what dch > > does. > yes because you are working outside of debuild. debuild creates a build file > that includes all the steps to produce the build > > in any case

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > No, but a connector. And depending on the mechanical environment, > those sometimes loosen too. Yes noticed on few that if disk is not mounted properly it starts sliding out. So reinserting the disk after checking connector states and mounting it properly could be leadin

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 11:18:14 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:35:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > I don't know what the writer of those two sentences meant by > > structure, but I specifically mentioned the Discussion page > > (≡ Wikipedia's Talk page) which I think

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2020-04-21 17:39:55 +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 17:07:52 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> > Sometimes packages get renamed. [...] >> > >> > [...] if one >> > wants to remove it, then apt or aptitude will also want to remove >> > the new pac

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Patches don't add log messages in general. I meant like what dch > does. yes because you are working outside of debuild. debuild creates a build file that includes all the steps to produce the build in any case https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/07/04/how-to-prepare-patches

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:33:18PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >> How old, and what color are your sata cables? [...] > > > > I know you like the red ones :-) > > > > But this is a laptop, so... > > > > That said, given the log errors, I'd try first to reseat, then to >

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> How old, and what color are your sata cables? [...] > > I know you like the red ones :-) > > But this is a laptop, so... > > That said, given the log errors, I'd try first to reseat, then to > change the laptop's disk. This looks like flaky connector/hardware But thi

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-04-21 17:07 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Sometimes packages get renamed. A renamed package becomes a > "transitional package", which can be tracked by deborphan and > can safely removed if it no longer has any reverse dependencies. > > The issue is that if this was a manually installed

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-21 17:39:55 +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 17:07:52 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Sometimes packages get renamed. [...] > > > > [...] if one > > wants to remove it, then apt or aptitude will also want to remove > > the new package because this new package ha

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-21 18:37:03 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 05:31:38PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2020-04-21 16:44:57 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > apt install apt-build > > > > > > Requires some scripting to run without a human intervention, it's > > > relatively simple. > > > > Can

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread nito
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 17:07:52 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Sometimes packages get renamed. [...] > > [...] if one > wants to remove it, then apt or aptitude will also want to remove > the new package because this new package has not been installed > manually and its only reverse dependency (

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 05:31:38PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2020-04-21 16:44:57 +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:23:37PM +0200, Thomas Martin wrote: > > > My goal is simple : I'm applying few modifications on some Debian > > > packages and would like those pa

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, On 2020-04-21 16:44:57 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:23:37PM +0200, Thomas Martin wrote: > > My goal is simple : I'm applying few modifications on some Debian > > packages and would like those packages to be rebuilt with my changes > > when a new package version is available.

cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Sometimes packages get renamed. A renamed package becomes a "transitional package", which can be tracked by deborphan and can safely removed if it no longer has any reverse dependencies. The issue is that if this was a manually installed package, typically with no past dependencies on it (i.e. no

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Thomas Martin
Hi, Thank you, I will check this out. Thomas Le mar. 21 avr. 2020 à 15:45, Reco a écrit : > > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:23:37PM +0200, Thomas Martin wrote: > > My goal is simple : I'm applying few modifications on some Debian > > packages and would like those packages to be re

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:23:37PM +0200, Thomas Martin wrote: > My goal is simple : I'm applying few modifications on some Debian > packages and would like those packages to be rebuilt with my changes > when a new package version is available. apt install apt-build Requires some scr

The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-21 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello, I would like to know what is the simplest way to rebuild Debian packages automatically when a new version of the package is released ? My goal is simple : I'm applying few modifications on some Debian packages and would like those packages to be rebuilt with my changes when a new package v

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:24:08AM -0600, Ralph Katz wrote: > Ah, wisdom of the elders! I usually consult the younger set for > computer stuff... but will take your advice. Even though I opened and > ran a computer store in 1980, I haven't opened a computer case to touch > the hardware in 20 yr

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph Katz
On 4/21/20 2:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 21 April 2020 03:07:31 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:59:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 20 April 2020 21:44:10 Ralph Katz wrote: Hi -- Please help me diagnose and fix this problem. My five m

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-21 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 20, 2020, Russell L. Harris wrote: > [...] > Neo-mutt documentation led me to believe that there is a "b" command > (or something of the sort) for BOUNCE; but I did not find it, perhaps > because I use the "Classic Dvorak" keymap. I then discovered that > commands not tied to a key can be

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:35:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: I don't know what the writer of those two sentences meant by structure, but I specifically mentioned the Discussion page (≡ Wikipedia's Talk page) which I think is an important factor in improving content. At some point a long time a

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 April 2020 03:07:31 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:59:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 20 April 2020 21:44:10 Ralph Katz wrote: > > > Hi -- Please help me diagnose and fix this problem. > > > > > > My five month old Dell laptop with updated firmware

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:35:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > That's why I wrote "curated". There are some dedicated people working > on their wiki. Look at their News or Statistics pages. This is it, I think. We as geeks te

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:59:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 April 2020 21:44:10 Ralph Katz wrote: > > > Hi -- Please help me diagnose and fix this problem. > > > > My five month old Dell laptop with updated firmware and new up-to-date ^^ > How old, a

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > > If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the > > message, so as not to disturb the "evidence" or "scene of the crime". > > I remain unconvinced. If you forward an email as an attachment, then > its contain