Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Leslie Rhorer wrote: > Come on.  Be honest.  How many messages in this or any other forum can > you specifically remember from a year ago?  When was the last time you > read a post more than a year old?  My servers have a permanent and > non-volatile memory (thank heavens), but I don't, and neithe

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 10:36 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: If I were one to use a laptop - which I most certainly do not - I think that's why you don't consider it unthinkable to carry around such a thing along with your laptop. I carried around a 90 lb tool case everywhere for nearly 20 years. I'

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread Rich Morin
Is the screen really a show-stopper? If not, how about getting a PinePhone CE, and running Mobian or postmarketOS on it? https://store.pine64.org/product/pinephone-community-edition-postmarketos-with-convergence-package-limited-edition-linux-smartphone/ -r > From: Dan Hitt > Subject: non-smar

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I don't argue about your approach, it is your design, your servers, but in >> your case I would use definitely deduplication. > And save what? About 0.002%. I don't know if it's important for your use case (probably not), but in backups, deduplication is (mostly) not about finding common

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If I were one to use a laptop - which I most certainly do not - I think that's why you don't consider it unthinkable to carry around such a thing along with your laptop. What you're suggesting looks like the following to me: - I go to my favorite café to work for the afternoon [ ah, the g

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 11:09 AM, deloptes wrote: Leslie Rhorer wrote: And how useful is that? There are very few duplicate files on my systems, because I use applications to eliminate duplicates. Eliminating duplicates in a live data repository is far more important than doing it on backup media. Ma

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 8:12 PM, deloptes wrote: I don't know from which universe you came here, honestly :D, sorry, I don't mean to hurt you ... You would find that quite impossible. I would never be upset over a simple disagreement. Or a complex one, for that matter. Any forum without disagreement

Re: aptitude why (Was: Re: After software update systemd runs into timeouts)

2020-08-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-08-06 at 07:24, Dan Ritter wrote: > Urs Thuermann wrote: > >> $ aptitude why libpam-systemd >> i systemd Recommends libpam-systemd >> $ aptitude why policykit-1 libpam-systemd >> i A policykit-1 Depends libpam-systemd >> >> But now I see reason: policykit-1 is also installed only becau

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 11:15 AM, deloptes wrote: Leslie Rhorer wrote: A few copies of what size? ??The backup server is an exact mirror of the main server, plus several T of additional files I don't need on the main server. The question is how much back in time you can go. If you have just a mirror - it

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Leslie Rhorer wrote: > First of all, it is one small chassis, not 2 -3 separate disks. > Secondly, so what?  You act as if a small box sitting next to a laptop > is some sort of elephant sitting in your lap.  It is not difficult at > all to imagine.  What's difficult to imagine is using a laptop f

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Dan Hitt wrote: > If i were going to get a smartphone, i would very seriously consider the > Librem (puri.sm) running PureOS. > > But i've decided that i don't really need or want a smartphone.  I want > something that i can make and receive calls with (with very low > frequency), and which i ins

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

2020-08-06 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-08-06 20:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: For short strings, doing this sort of parsing in bash is fine. But as you can see, on large inputs, it does not scale well. The fact that each iteration makes a *copy* of nearly the entire remaining input doesn't help matters, either -- right off the ba

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 11:25 AM, deloptes wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: And you suggest I put a 4-drive enclosure in my backpack next to my laptop? Seriously? Why not? Stefan, I have the same situation - on the Laptop only backup works :D Basically you can forget RAID in USB2 context. I have n

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread Keith bainbridge
On 7/8/20 5:55 am, Dan Hitt wrote: But i've decided that i don't really need or want a smartphone.  I want something that i can make and receive calls with (with very low frequency), and which i inspect to get the time if i'm not near my computer or a clock.  I especially do not want a large,

AppArmor or Telepathy error

2020-08-06 Thread Henning Follmann
I tried today Empathy for the first time. And I was not able to connect to my jabber server. So i dug a bit deeper, but honestly I really do not understand this: log Aug 06 19:55:19 typer dbus-daemon[3320]: [session uid=1000 pid=3320] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.Telepathy.C

Re: Kernel doesn't recognises devices on USB 3 port

2020-08-06 Thread Borden Rhodes
> A new portable hard drive and a new flash drive were, in turn, plugged into > the USB 3 port, but fdisk -l, lsblk and lsusb outputs suggest that > neither of these devices are recognised by the kernel when in that port. I have a similar problem with my laptop with a USB 3.0 port. It works in "le

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread Karen Lewellen
I hate I dumped posts before checking on this thread as I have comparative issues. With my own interest being the absence of a touch screen replaced by real keys. Was there a lead that matched this idea? Karen On Thu, 6 Aug 2020, Dan Hitt wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:31 AM Stefan Monni

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:31 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I plan to get a non-smart phone to replace my smart phone. > > By non-smart, i mean that it does not have a touch screen. > > Could you clarify what you're looking for? I.e. is the presence of > a touch screen the problem, or is the absen

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I plan to get a non-smart phone to replace my smart phone. > By non-smart, i mean that it does not have a touch screen. Could you clarify what you're looking for? I.e. is the presence of a touch screen the problem, or is the absence of mechanical/physical keys the problem, or is the risk of bei

Re: Kernel doesn't recognises devices on USB 3 port

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Mick Ab wrote: > However, given the uncertainty of the cause of the problem with the port, > I am reluctant to shut down the desktop and reboot in case the reboot > fails. Do you have other ports to try? Sometimes it is dust, sometimes a blown up capacitor or whatever. Try on another PC, does it

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: > And you suggest I put a 4-drive enclosure in my backpack next to my > laptop? Seriously? :D +1 Stefan, I have the same situation - on the Laptop only backup works :D Basically you can forget RAID in USB2 context. I have not tried USB3, but I heard that even the spead is

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I find it hard to believe that it's a rare feature. >> The system I use (`bup`) does support that as well (every backup is >> (more or less) a Git commit, so it doesn't distinguish full-backups from >> incrementals), but it doesn't bother to mention it probably because it's >> very basic. > >

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Leslie Rhorer wrote: > A few copies of what size?  The backup server is an exact mirror of the > main server, plus several T of additional files I don't need on the main > server. The question is how much back in time you can go. If you have just a mirror - it is one copy, so you can go one step

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Leslie Rhorer wrote: > And how useful is that? There are very few duplicate files on my > systems, because I use applications to eliminate duplicates. > Eliminating duplicates in a live data repository is far more important > than doing it on backup media. > May be you misunderstand deduplicatio

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 11:11:41 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2020 10:07:59 AM Celejar wrote: > > * Incremental and differential backups are backups of the delta between > > the last full backup and the current system state (either individually > > [differential] or collect

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> For better performance, more space, and higher throughput, I would > probably create a RAID 4 or RAID 6 array from the external enclosure > and use it as the data repository. And you suggest I put a 4-drive enclosure in my backpack next to my laptop? Seriously? >> For the Bana

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:04:28 -0500 Leslie Rhorer wrote: > On 8/6/2020 9:07 AM, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 05:02:17 -0500 > > Leslie Rhorer wrote: > > > * Incremental and differential backups are backups of the delta between > > the last full backup and the current system state (either

Re: non-smart debian phone

2020-08-06 Thread deloptes
Dan Hitt wrote: > Does anybody have any experience along these lines, or advice? there is nothing running debian out there AFAIK. The cheap phones without touch screen run something like KAI OS. There might be something around SailfishOS Community, that would be open source, but I don't remember

Kernel doesn't recognises devices on USB 3 port

2020-08-06 Thread Mick Ab
There is a problem with a USB 3 port on a desktop running Debian. Until recently, a backup of the system had been regularly performed to a portable hard drive plugged into the USB 3 port. The drive had been kept permanently plugged into the port and was only mounted when a backup is required. The

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, August 06, 2020 10:07:59 AM Celejar wrote: > * Incremental and differential backups are backups of the delta between > the last full backup and the current system state (either individually > [differential] or collectively [incremental]) I am not Leslie Rhorer, I'm just coming out of

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/6/2020 9:07 AM, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 05:02:17 -0500 Leslie Rhorer wrote: * Incremental and differential backups are backups of the delta between the last full backup and the current system state (either individually [differential] or collectively [incremental]) * I have no

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 05:02:17 -0500 Leslie Rhorer wrote: > On 8/5/2020 9:11 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>I prefer DAR for several reasons. First of all, as I mentioned > >>before, DAR is the only backup solution of which I am aware that can > >>restore not only deleted or corrupted fi

Re: aptitude why (Was: Re: After software update systemd runs into timeouts)

2020-08-06 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 7:42 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Urs Thuermann wrote: > > $ aptitude why libpam-systemd > > i systemd Recommends libpam-systemd > > $ aptitude why policykit-1 libpam-systemd > > i A policykit-1 Depends libpam-systemd > > > > But now I see reason: policykit-1 is also installed on

Re: aptitude why (Was: Re: After software update systemd runs into timeouts)

2020-08-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Urs Thuermann wrote: > $ aptitude why libpam-systemd > i systemd Recommends libpam-systemd > $ aptitude why policykit-1 libpam-systemd > i A policykit-1 Depends libpam-systemd > > But now I see reason: policykit-1 is also installed only because > virt-manager *recommends* libvirt-daemon-system

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

2020-08-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 11:57:47AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > I likely don't have a sufficient grasp of that "spirit" to comment there :) > but as for "hideously slow", remain to be convinced. Bash string > modifications seem to be pretty fast. Would very long strings requiring > multiple runs of

Re: Find latest netinstall iso

2020-08-06 Thread basti
Thanks, I get it. FYI: curl -sl ftp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ | grep -m 1 -Po "[0-9.]{1,}(?=-amd64-netinst\.iso)" On 06.08.20 12:36, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, basti wrote: >> Hello, >

Re: Find latest netinstall iso

2020-08-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, basti wrote: > Hello, > I try to setup a service that build a headless netinstall iso. > Is there a way to find the latest version number? > > I think grep the https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ site is not the best > option. Will parsing [1]

Find latest netinstall iso

2020-08-06 Thread basti
Hello, I try to setup a service that build a headless netinstall iso. Is there a way to find the latest version number? I think grep the https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ site is not the best option. Best regards

Re: Homebuilt NAS Advice

2020-08-06 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 8/5/2020 9:11 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I prefer DAR for several reasons. First of all, as I mentioned before, DAR is the only backup solution of which I am aware that can restore not only deleted or corrupted files, but which can also restore deletions. This m

aptitude why (Was: Re: After software update systemd runs into timeouts)

2020-08-06 Thread Urs Thuermann
David Wright writes: > On Wed 05 Aug 2020 at 22:53:26 (+0200), Urs Thuermann wrote: > > > Should this be considered a bug? Shouldn't 'aptitude why' show the > > packages that depend on it? > > Why not read the man page: > >Note >aptitude why does not perform full dependency >