Debian 9.13 perl-5.24-1 compile from source dist/Time-HiRes Warning: No Makefile!

2020-09-29 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a computer with Debian: $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 9.13 Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-13-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.228-1 (2020-07-05) x86_64 GNU/Linux I have installed the source code for the 'perl' package: $ apt-get source perl When I attempt to compile the

Re: GNU Guix

2020-09-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 17:10:13 (-0400), Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 9/29/20 1:04 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > I tried GNU Guix a few years back. I did not find a compelling reason > > other than package roll back to leave Debian for it. Bullseye has the > > nix-bin package available for those

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Tom Dial
On 9/29/20 06:53, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:44:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> This is likely quite true Michael, but it also is only a hint as to how >> to fix it for the OP. > > It was already fixed, serveraliveinterval/clientaliveinterval is the > right answer. I

Re: GNU Guix

2020-09-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 9/29/20 1:04 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: I tried GNU Guix a few years back. I did not find a compelling reason other than package roll back to leave Debian for it. Bullseye has the nix-bin package available for those wanting to try it without leaving Debian, I guess. - Nate I've been

Re: Regarding case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ]

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-09-28 09:26, discsupp...@seagate.com wrote: > > Hello David Christensen, > > > I have asked three times that you make a binary image of Seagate SeaTools > Bootable available, and have received delay, diversionary, and denial > tactics in response. I will ask

Re: Regarding case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ]

2020-09-29 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-09-28 09:26, discsupp...@seagate.com wrote: Hello David Christensen, Welcome to Seagate Support, my name is Jairo and I'm glad to assist you today about SeaTools and its source code licenced under GPL. We will work together to find a solution. SeaTools Booteable uses free libraries

Re: GNU Guix

2020-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
I tried GNU Guix a few years back. I did not find a compelling reason other than package roll back to leave Debian for it. Bullseye has the nix-bin package available for those wanting to try it without leaving Debian, I guess. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all

[SOLVED] Re: Riddling activity on encrypted and mounted partition

2020-09-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > your reply doesn't make it clear to me whether the > lazy init was the cause of your writes or not. It seems so. The disk is mounted without i/o being counted in /sys/block/sda/sda2/stat . If only half of the 733702 write ops of mkfs.ext4 were due to lazy_*=0, then they

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Dan Ritter wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > F*ck! > > > > I wonder why it is trying to create it as nobody:nogroup... > > > > spamd[32333]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in learn) locker: safe_lock: > > cannot create tmp lockfile > >

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Victor Sudakov wrote: > F*ck! > > I wonder why it is trying to create it as nobody:nogroup... > > spamd[32333]: plugin: eval failed: bayes: (in learn) locker: safe_lock: > cannot create tmp lockfile >

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > Is anyone running Debian's default SpamAssassin package together with > > > some MTA (exim, postfix etc)? > > > > > > My question is, when SpamAssassin is accessed over the network > > >

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > Is anyone running Debian's default SpamAssassin package together with > > > some MTA (exim, postfix etc)? > > > > > > My question is, when SpamAssassin is accessed over the network > > >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Riddling activity on encrypted and mounted partition

2020-09-29 Thread Andy Smith
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 01:02:35PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > Create with: > >mkfs.ext4 -E lazy_itable_init=0,lazy_journal_init=0 > > This lasts significantly longer than my first mkfs run. > The drive makes ~ 1950 write operations per second. So i estimate that >

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Dan Ritter wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Is anyone running Debian's default SpamAssassin package together with > > some MTA (exim, postfix etc)? > > > > My question is, when SpamAssassin is accessed over the network > > (127.0.0.1:783), where does it keep its

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Those are kind of virtual things, as far as I understand. If not %mem, then > > what `ps` parameter can show me how many php-fpm workers I can safely start > > before RAM is exhausted? > > This is a seemingly easy question with a surprisingly difficult answer. > >

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Klaus Singvogel wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Perhaps because the php-fpm workers were forked from the same parent > > > and so a lot of theie 'physical' RAM is actually the same RAM as each > > > other, because it's not been modified? > > > > I see your point, but ps(1) talks about real

Re: Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Is anyone running Debian's default SpamAssassin package together with > some MTA (exim, postfix etc)? > > My question is, when SpamAssassin is accessed over the network > (127.0.0.1:783), where does it keep its Bayesian database? > > A command like

Where is spamassassin's bayes database?

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Dear Colleagues, Is anyone running Debian's default SpamAssassin package together with some MTA (exim, postfix etc)? My question is, when SpamAssassin is accessed over the network (127.0.0.1:783), where does it keep its Bayesian database? A command like spamc -u nobody -L ham < mail.txt

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Perhaps because the php-fpm workers were forked from the same parent > > and so a lot of theie 'physical' RAM is actually the same RAM as each > > other, because it's not been modified? > > I see your point, but ps(1) talks about real physical RAM: > > %mem%MEM

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:19:17PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: [...] > Those are kind of virtual things, as far as I understand. If not %mem, then > what `ps` parameter can show me how many php-fpm workers I can safely start > before RAM is exhausted? This is a seemingly easy question with a

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:13:59AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: In general it's kind of dumb on modern hardware to expire sessions that are still exchanging TCP keepalives unless you're under extreme pressure from a DoS attack or somesuch. Indeed, I'd be *very* surprised if a connection was

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:24:35AM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Could you please clarify for me how the following is possible. `ps` shows > > that the php-fpm workers have occupied 62% of physical memory, while > > `free` shows that only

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Tixy wrote: > > > > Could you please clarify for me how the following is possible. `ps` shows > > that the php-fpm workers have occupied 62% of physical memory, while > > `free` shows that only 1.3Gi (which is 17% of total RAM) is used: > > > > $ ps axww -o cmd,%mem |awk

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In general it's kind of dumb on modern hardware to expire sessions > that are still exchanging TCP keepalives unless you're under extreme > pressure from a DoS attack or somesuch. Indeed, I'd be *very* surprised if a connection was dropped despite exchange of TCP keepalives. It seems much more

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:44:13AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:34:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >Setting the socket option to keep alive "fixed" that. > > You were lucky. ssh does that by default, so if ssh sessions are > getting killed these days it's because

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 15:50:35 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > >> >> public Windows

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 15:50:35 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> >> public Windows machine? > >> > > >> > I'm not sure I

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 03:50:35PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> >> public Windows machine? > >> > > >> >

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:34:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Setting the socket option to keep alive "fixed" that. You were lucky. ssh does that by default, so if ssh sessions are getting killed these days it's because the firewall ignores tcp keepalives when calculating timeouts. If

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:22:32PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:18:54AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 03:48:56PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >The normal reason people need to use ServerAlive or ClientAlive is NAT. >If your connection from ssh

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:22:32PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Following up on myself: I had exactly this case with an (outsourced) data centre: they had NATs between different realms (you might ask "why, oh, why?" and you'd be right). The application server and the database server were

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:18:54AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 03:48:56PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >The normal reason people need to use ServerAlive or ClientAlive is NAT. > >If your connection from ssh client to ssh server goes through a NAT > >router, the router

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
> If you want to defend against on-disk corruption, use ZFS. > If you want to be alerted to every change to a set of files, use > tripwire or aide. Both are packaged for Debian. > ... Really?!? Well, I would say that is only part of the story and not even the most interesting one. I am amazed

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >>I can't believe the answer is as simple as visiting >>https://packages.debian.org/index >>and downloading the packages you want (in binary mode). > > Plus (possibly several) iterations of

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >> >> public Windows machine? >> > >> > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the >> > previous one. >> >>

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/26/20, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 02:11:30PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: >>On 9/25/20, Michael Stone wrote: >>> Just one would be good enough (pick the sha256sum). What you're doing is >>> a waste of time. If you want to future proof then use sha3, via the >>> rhash

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:44:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: This is likely quite true Michael, but it also is only a hint as to how to fix it for the OP. It was already fixed, serveraliveinterval/clientaliveinterval is the right answer. I guess I can review: these options simply have the

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 September 2020 08:18:54 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 03:48:56PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >The normal reason people need to use ServerAlive or ClientAlive is > > NAT. If your connection from ssh client to ssh server goes through a > > NAT router, the router may

Re: ssh session times out annoyingly fast, why?

2020-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 03:48:56PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: The normal reason people need to use ServerAlive or ClientAlive is NAT. If your connection from ssh client to ssh server goes through a NAT router, the router may keep track of activity on that connection, and drop the translation

Re: Possible bug in mediawiki package (1.27.7-1~deb9u4)

2020-09-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:48:40AM +0200, MAS Jean-Louis wrote: > Le 28/09/2020 à 13:57, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : > > > Note that the mediawiki package is handled by the LTS team. It is not > > incorrect to discuss issues like this on debian-user, but a better place > > is the debian-lts

Re: problème ouverture image debian AMD64

2020-09-29 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Sihol" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Mardi 29 Septembre 2020 02:36:54 > Objet: problème ouverture image debian AMD64 > > Bonjour, > > j’ai un macbook Air 2015 version 10.15.7 1,6 Ghz intel i5 8Go Ram. > apres avoir télécharger l’image

GNU Guix

2020-09-29 Thread Cuckoo's Calling
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Re: Problema con bluetooth en Buster

2020-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El 2020-09-29 a las 10:05 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió: > He instalado Debian Buster un mini PC ( > https://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_LIVA/ES/LIVA), pero me da > problemas el bluetooth: > > [4.859123] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 84 > [4.859634] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM:

[SOLVED] Re: Riddling activity on encrypted and mounted partition

2020-09-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Could it possibly be the lazy init feature of ext4, which is enabled > by default and can sometimes result in several minutes of background > writes to a newly-created fs? Well, the blinking went on for at least an hour. > Create with: >mkfs.ext4 -E

Re: Riddling activity on encrypted and mounted partition

2020-09-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:24:44AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i have encrypted my HDD's (*) data partition. Now the disk access LED is > blinking rapidly as soon as i mount it. Could it possibly be the lazy init feature of ext4, which is enabled by default and can sometimes result in

Re: Possible bug in mediawiki package (1.27.7-1~deb9u4)

2020-09-29 Thread MAS Jean-Louis
Le 28/09/2020 à 13:57, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : > Note that the mediawiki package is handled by the LTS team. It is not > incorrect to discuss issues like this on debian-user, but a better place > is the debian-lts list. Many LTS users and all of the LTS maintainers > monitor that list.

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:24:35AM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Could you please clarify for me how the following is possible. `ps` shows > that the php-fpm workers have occupied 62% of physical memory, while > `free` shows that only 1.3Gi (which is 17% of total RAM) is

Riddling activity on encrypted and mounted partition

2020-09-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i have encrypted my HDD's (*) data partition. Now the disk access LED is blinking rapidly as soon as i mount it. Is this normal ? I did: cryptsetup -v -y luksFormat --type luks2 /dev/sda2 cryptsetup open /dev/sda2 daten dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=7679784591 status=progress

Problema con bluetooth en Buster

2020-09-29 Thread Josu Lazkano
Hola, He instalado Debian Buster un mini PC ( https://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_LIVA/ES/LIVA), pero me da problemas el bluetooth: [4.859123] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 84 [4.859634] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: features 0x0f [4.860790] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM4324B3 [

Re: "ps -o %mem" and free memory in Linux

2020-09-29 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 10:24 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Could you please clarify for me how the following is possible. `ps` shows > that the php-fpm workers have occupied 62% of physical memory, while > `free` shows that only 1.3Gi (which is 17% of total RAM) is used: > >