Re: libXp -- was there a better way?

2020-10-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-10-23 23:53 +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I occasionally use a specialist piece of software called xephem, which > is old but doesn't to my knowledge have a newer replacement that's 1% as > good. I tried to fire it up the other night for the first time since I > installed buster. It refuse

Re: Intel RST driver -> SSD bug ?

2020-10-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-22 21:48, A. Kapetanovic wrote: 23 oct. 2020 04:27:38 David Christensen : Who wrote algo- B1.pl?  Who designed the database?  Are they for a personal project, for a business, or something else? I designed all and it is for a personal business Okay. Do you own the four books I p

RE: Sophos Users Database

2020-10-23 Thread daniel rossie
Hi There, I am following up to check if you had a chance to review my previous email. If yes, please email me with your requirements for the Counts, Pricing and Samples for your review. Regards, Daniel From: daniel rossie Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:58 PM To: 'debian-user@lists

libXp -- was there a better way?

2020-10-23 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello I am running Buster on c2009 amd64 hardware -- one of the earliest Intel Core i7s. This was a clean install of Buster done a little over a year ago. Previously I had run many older flavours of Debian on this hardware over the years. I occasionally use a specialist piece of software calle

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-23 19:01, Dan Ritter wrote: I first used Linux in 1992, 13 or 14 months after Linus started writing it. sudo was already 12 years old. "Where do you want to go today" did it for me but I had such a lot of trouble shifting head into gear. Never really managed. -- Key ID4BFEBB3

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Tixy wrote: > > Thanks. Debian has su installed as part of a required package so I > never bothered installing sudo, it just seemed to be an Ubuntu thing. Robert Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer wrote the original subsystem around 1980 at the Department of Computer Science at SUNY/Buffalo. Robert Co

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 15:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Tixy wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote > > > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you > > > wastefully > > > running two programs when you only need one. > > It's useful (essential?) if you want

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Clive Standbridge
> Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at a time > when I was not aware of the potential problem), and squirrelmail still works > fine. > > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? Yes. I have done that, and the old squirrelmail package remai

Re: Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > I use squirrelmail, and squirrelmail uses php5. > Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at > a time when I was not aware of the potential problem), and > squirrelmail still works fine. > Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote >> Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully >> running two programs when you only need one. > It's useful (essential?) if you want a root shell when there's no root > password set like on Ubuntu (and o

Stretch => Buster: obsolete packages

2020-10-23 Thread Jesper Dybdal
I use squirrelmail, and squirrelmail uses php5. Somehow both of those survived the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch (at a time when I was not aware of the potential problem), and squirrelmail still works fine. Can I expect that they will also survive the upgrade to Buster? (Yes, I know I shoul

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 01:30:11PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote > [...] > > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully > > running two programs when you only need one. > [...] > > It's useful (essential?) if you want a root she

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-10-23 at 08:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote [...] > Using "sudo su -" is a new one to me. Not only are you wastefully > running two programs when you only need one. [...] It's useful (essential?) if you want a root shell when there's no root password set like on Ubuntu (and optionally

Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive

2020-10-23 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:32:17 +1100 David wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 08:45, David wrote: > > Hmmm again. Ignore my previous message. I didn't read the thread > carefully enough. I still haven't done that, because I should be > doing other things, but I have looked a little bit more carefull

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 12:15:24PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Behaviour changed in Buster - su - is now required. [Likewise sudo su - if > you use sudo] That's silly. Just use "sudo -i" if you want a root login shell, or "sudo -s" if you want a normal root shell (roughly equivalent to wha

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:41:07PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games > > I examined su(1) and learned that one solution for me is to invoke su with > the '-l' argument, which creates a 'login' s

Re: PATH nfg after su

2020-10-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:41:07PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > PATH=/home/bob/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games > > I examined su(1) and learned that one solution for me is to invoke su with > the '-l' argument, which creates a 'login' s

Re: kbrequest & openvt

2020-10-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:30:17PM +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > For years under sysvinit, in /etc/inittab, this line: > kb::kbrequest:$( [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ] && /bin/openvt -su || sudo /bin/openvt > -su) > allowed me to open another VT by keying Control-UpArrow. What a cargo-culted mess.