Linux-Fan composed on 2021-03-08 03:35 (UTC+0100):
> Wrt. power I usually start from CPU + GPU
I used an online calculator
https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator
on this system with
i3-7100T (TDP 35W) supports up
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 5:25 PM David Christensen
wrote:
> On 3/7/21 4:45 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:27 PM David Christensen <
> dpchr...@holgerdanske.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/7/21 4:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
>
> >>> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router
David Wright composed on 2021-03-07 20:01 (UTC-0600):
> On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 20:39:12 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
>> At retail level, modem-routers seem to be rather uncommon. OTOH, owning your
>> own
>> modem and router can produce an ISP savings that will pay for a modem and/or
>> router in
David Wright writes:
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 19:33:42 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> The Wanderer composed on 2021-03-07 19:16 (UTC-0500):
> > On 2021-03-07 at 19:04, David Christensen wrote:
[...]
> > Isn't progress fun?
>
> Same kind as when Intel stopped providing PS/2 ports on its
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 20:39:12 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> At retail level, modem-routers seem to be rather uncommon. OTOH, owning your
> own
> modem and router can produce an ISP savings that will pay for a modem and/or
> router in as little as 6-12 months by buying quality "refurbs". I have
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 19:33:42 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> The Wanderer composed on 2021-03-07 19:16 (UTC-0500):
> > On 2021-03-07 at 19:04, David Christensen wrote:
>
> >> I can see how GPT labels would be useful for system drives, but I use
> >> BIOS/MBR because it is the lowest common
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-03-07 16:33 (UTC-0800):
> Felix Miata wrote:
> So there seems to be some incompatibility between the old mac and
> the router-modem. Both however are black boxes and i am constrained from
> just wiping the mac and installing debian on it, to see if this is just a
>
>
>
> Also ip a. Someday you may no longer have arp:
> <
> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
> >
>
Yes, "$ ip neighbor" (or "ip n" for short) is the correct syntax on modern
Linux.
Thanks.
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-03-07 17:01 (UTC-0800):
> IL Ka wrote:
>>> [Although, i guess i do not know the mac addr of the modem-router --- is
>>> there a user-level move i can make on my debian box to see what the mac
>>> addr of my modem-router is?
>> $ ping [your_rounter_ip]
>> $ arp -a
>>
On 3/7/21 4:45 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:27 PM David Christensen
wrote:
On 3/7/21 4:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
incompatible with one of my computers. That computer freezes or
otherwise
misbehaves when
The Wanderer composed on 2021-03-07 18:00 (UTC-0500):
> On 2021-03-07 at 17:48, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Don't settle for a motherboard that lacks any M.2 ports that support
>> NVME 2280 form factor storage. Prefer more than one on any board
>> bigger than ITX. I've see reports of <3 second cold
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:58 PM IL Ka wrote:
>
>>
>> [Although, i guess i do not know the mac addr of the modem-router --- is
>> there a user-level move i can make on my debian box to see what the mac
>> addr of my modem-router is?
>>
> $ ping [your_rounter_ip]
> $ arp -a
>
> you should see a
>
>
>
> [Although, i guess i do not know the mac addr of the modem-router --- is
> there a user-level move i can make on my debian box to see what the mac
> addr of my modem-router is?
>
$ ping [your_rounter_ip]
$ arp -a
you should see a list of all your ethernet neighbours along with their ip
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Thanks for all Yours faithfully
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Bonjour
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:46 PM IL Ka wrote:
> A random thought:
> Check mac addresses, make sure they aren't the same.
>
Thanks for the thought.
That is a reasonable sanity check.
But as it happens, all the mac addrs on all these boxes are different ---
i've accumulated a list of them due to
A random thought:
Check mac addresses, make sure they aren't the same.
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:36 AM Dan Hitt wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:25 PM IL Ka wrote:
>
>>
>>> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
>>> incompatible with one of my computers.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:27 PM David Christensen
wrote:
> On 3/7/21 4:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:01 AM David Christensen wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/7/21 9:55 AM, Dan Hitt wrote:
> >>
> >>> I indeed use ethernet-over-usb currently, and
> >>> it is fast enough for me. But if i
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:25 PM IL Ka wrote:
>
>> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
>> incompatible with one of my computers.
>>
> hmm, I never heard about such things)
> Is your electrical grounding configured correctly?
>
> In my country some old apartments
The Wanderer composed on 2021-03-07 19:16 (UTC-0500):
> On 2021-03-07 at 19:04, David Christensen wrote:
>> I can see how GPT labels would be useful for system drives, but I use
>> BIOS/MBR because it is the lowest common denominator and I can move
>> system drives between machines of varying
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:16 PM Felix Miata wrote:
> Dan Hitt composed on 2021-03-07 16:02 (UTC-0800):
>
> > The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
> > incompatible with one of my computers. That computer freezes or
> otherwise
> > misbehaves when one of its
On 3/7/21 4:16 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2021-03-07 at 19:04, David Christensen wrote:
... I use
BIOS/MBR because it is the lowest common denominator and I can move
system drives between machines of varying age.
That'll probably stop working past a certain point, at least for some
On 3/7/21 4:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:01 AM David Christensen wrote:
On 3/7/21 9:55 AM, Dan Hitt wrote:
I indeed use ethernet-over-usb currently, and
it is fast enough for me. But if i had a second port, it would be a
little
less cluttered, so i'd like to do it if
>
>
> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
> incompatible with one of my computers.
>
hmm, I never heard about such things)
Is your electrical grounding configured correctly?
In my country some old apartments do not have third (ground) wire. I've
seen a lot of
On 2021-03-07 at 19:04, David Christensen wrote:
> On 3/7/21 12:59 PM, deloptes wrote:
>> IMO UEFI makes sense when you have notebook with secureboot and probably
>> dual boot with windows.
>> For the home server or PC with Linux only ... IMO it is a waste.
>
> I can see how GPT labels would be
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-03-07 16:02 (UTC-0800):
> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically
> incompatible with one of my computers. That computer freezes or otherwise
> misbehaves when one of its ethernet ports is on a network which also has
> the modem-router.
On 3/7/21 12:59 PM, deloptes wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
UEFI started coming into x86 motherboard firmware ~10 years ago, so a
BIOS-only machine is going to be at least that old. That is okay for a
server, but I would want newer Intel integrated graphics for a desktop.
This implies UEFI
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:01 AM David Christensen
wrote:
> On 3/7/21 9:55 AM, Dan Hitt wrote:
>
> > I indeed use ethernet-over-usb currently, and
> > it is fast enough for me. But if i had a second port, it would be a
> little
> > less cluttered, so i'd like to do it if it is not too costly and
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 13:11:26 -0500
John Boxall wrote:
Hello John,
>Brad, I agree 100%..unfortunately, like my memory, I use selective
>action.sometimes I create one and other times :-)
Sadly, Me too. :-(
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/
On 2021-03-07 at 17:48, Felix Miata wrote:
> Don't settle for a motherboard that lacks any M.2 ports that support
> NVME 2280 form factor storage. Prefer more than one on any board
> bigger than ITX. I've see reports of <3 second cold boot to
> multi-user times using NVME. Best I've seen here is
songbird composed on 2021-03-07 13:06 (UTC-0500):
> apparently Gigabyte has/had some strange ideas about UEFI.
No such here. Gigabyte made the first motherboard I ever acquired with UEFI
that I
used with UEFI, so
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> If you _are_ using add in graphics, then you'll find that the latest cards
> effectively tie into UEFI. You may possibly find that attempting to use
> legacy/MBR may cause some problems.
It would be good to have more reading on that. I had it on my todo list to
move to
On 2021-03-07 at 16:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 04:06:07PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2021-03-07 at 15:59, deloptes wrote:
>>> what has the graphic card to do with UEFI?
>>
>> If you're not using an add-in graphics card, but are relying on
>> integrated
On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 04:06:07PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 at 15:59, deloptes wrote:
>
> > David Christensen wrote:
> >
> >> UEFI started coming into x86 motherboard firmware ~10 years ago, so
> >> a BIOS-only machine is going to be at least that old. That is okay
> >> for a
On 2021-03-07 at 15:59, deloptes wrote:
> David Christensen wrote:
>
>> UEFI started coming into x86 motherboard firmware ~10 years ago, so
>> a BIOS-only machine is going to be at least that old. That is okay
>> for a server, but I would want newer Intel integrated graphics for
>> a desktop.
David Christensen wrote:
> UEFI started coming into x86 motherboard firmware ~10 years ago, so a
> BIOS-only machine is going to be at least that old. That is okay for a
> server, but I would want newer Intel integrated graphics for a desktop.
> This implies UEFI firmware.
what has the graphic
On 3/7/21 11:00 AM, ghe2001 wrote:
All of my current boxes are pretty old, and they all have vanilla BIOSes. I have a Dell laptop that came with a UEFI BIOS, and it was no fun at all getting it to run Debian -- it may still be misconfigured for all I know.
If you want to start a new thread,
On 3/7/21 11:03 AM, Celejar wrote:
There are, however, disadvantages as well (besides the fact that
anything used involves some risk): these types of machines can have
proprietary and non-standard aspects. E.g., I wasted a great deal of
time (and some money) during deployment of my Z440 when I
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:48:04 -0800
David Christensen wrote:
> On 3/6/21 9:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote:
> >
> >> I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to
> >> figure out what to do.
...
> >> I'm sort of thinking about
On 3/7/21 9:55 AM, Dan Hitt wrote:
I indeed use ethernet-over-usb currently, and
it is fast enough for me. But if i had a second port, it would be a little
less cluttered, so i'd like to do it if it is not too costly and doesn't
interfere with other goals. :)
Will the new computer connect
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On Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:59 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
> I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to figure
> out what to do.
>
> When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI
>> Another important consideration is memory -- non-ECC vs. ECC. Desktop
>> stuff has the former, workstation and server stuff done right has the
>> latter. STFW "memory error", "bit rot" and related. I prefer computers
>> with ECC memory.
> it's a really poor choice that that did not
On 2021-03-07 1:06 p.m., songbird wrote:
apparently Gigabyte has/had some strange ideas about UEFI.
sadly i didn't know this and couldn't shop other than through
the phone line talking to someone so i had to rely upon them
selecting a motherboard for me. don't really want to sent it
back
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 13:07:54 -0500, John Boxall wrote:
> On 2021-03-07 12:45 p.m., Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 17:34:59 +, Brian wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I forgot to ask before - and forgot again! What device are you using?
> >
>
> An Epson Perfection 2480 Photo.
An
Kenneth Parker wrote:
...
> I was dragged, "kicking and screaming" to UEFI booting. But, now that I'm
> here, it's "sort of" grown on me.
>
> What helped me, a lot, is a package called Refind. It's available on
> Debian, through normal Apt-Get, though it's good to, carefully read the
>
David Christensen wrote:
...
> Another important consideration is memory -- non-ECC vs. ECC. Desktop
> stuff has the former, workstation and server stuff done right has the
> latter. STFW "memory error", "bit rot" and related. I prefer computers
> with ECC memory.
it's a really poor
On 2021-03-07 12:47 p.m., Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 +
Brian wrote:
Hello Brian,
put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this
You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those changes.
Use the computer to do it for you.
IOW,
On 2021-03-07 12:45 p.m., Brian wrote:
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 17:34:59 +, Brian wrote:
John,
I forgot to ask before - and forgot again! What device are you using?
An Epson Perfection 2480 Photo.
So, having read a little further, maybe I could have used the Epson
offering for a driver.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 8:54 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Dan Hitt wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote:
> >
> > > I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to
> > > figure out what to do.
>
> What are your needs, and what's your budget?
>
> Are you
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 5:11 AM IL Ka wrote:
>
>> When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After
>> dealing with it, i sort of lost track of what was happening in that arena.
>> However, i don't want to get involved with that again.
>>
>
> Motherboard firmware could be
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 +
Brian wrote:
Hello Brian,
>put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this
You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those changes.
Use the computer to do it for you.
IOW, create a text file documenting those system additions
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 17:34:59 +, Brian wrote:
John,
I forgot to ask before - and forgot again! What device are you using?
--
Brian.
Hi. Day 2 of Debian for me! I'm a long time on-off Ubuntu/Raspberry Pi OS user
though - but first time with a standard Debian install, and first time with
Wayland.
I'd love some pointers about how (if at all) I can change the acceleration of
my touchpad. Truth is, I'm not sure what I want to
On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 12:07:30 -0500, John Boxall wrote:
> On 2021-03-05 12:04 p.m., Brian wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, too. In the light of your issue, the Troubleshooting section
> > now has a link to the bug report. Hopefully, this will help users.
> >
>
> Brian, in the reference to the bug
On 2021-03-05 12:04 p.m., Brian wrote:
Thank you, too. In the light of your issue, the Troubleshooting section
now has a link to the bug report. Hopefully, this will help users.
Brian, in the reference to the bug report, were you referring to the file:
/etc/udev/rules.d/65-libsane.rules
El 2021-03-06 a las 09:30 +0100, Camaleón escribió:
> El 2021-03-05 a las 13:55 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió:
>
> > El vie, 5 de mar. de 2021 a la(s) 11:27, Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com)
> > escribió:
> > >
> > > El 2021-03-05 a las 10:10 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió:
> > >
> > > > El
El 2021-03-07 a las 13:29 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
> Hola amigos. No doy mas, quiero instalar debian 11 en mi computadora. La
> ansiedad es mas que yo
:-)
> Me gustaría saber de los genios de la lista dos opiniones
>
> 1) Si lo instalo ahora, cuando la versión 11 se convierta
El 2021-03-07 a las 13:27 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
> Quiero instalar debian 11 con escritorio kde y no lo puedo encontrar.
>
> Entré a https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
>
> y ahi me baja la versión 10.
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/
Saludos,
--
Dan Hitt wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote:
>
> > I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to
> > figure out what to do.
What are your needs, and what's your budget?
Are you comfortable plugging together components to build a
machine, or do you
El soporte de instalación es el mismo para todos los escritorios. Solo has
de seleccionarlo durante la instalación.
Saludos
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 17:27 Marcelo Eduardo Giordano <
marcelogiord...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hola amigos.
>
> Quiero instalar debian 11 con escritorio kde y no lo puedo
Hola amigos. No doy mas, quiero instalar debian 11 en mi computadora. La
ansiedad es mas que yo
Me gustaría saber de los genios de la lista dos opiniones
1) Si lo instalo ahora, cuando la versión 11 se convierta en stable, hay
que reinstalar algo? o es transparente?
2) Que grado de
Hola amigos.
Quiero instalar debian 11 con escritorio kde y no lo puedo encontrar.
Entré a https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
y ahi me baja la versión 10.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:03 AM Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 10:28:34AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote:
> > One potential gotcha. When you boot from an mdadm file system containing
> > /boot/grub, grub will not write to the file system. In particular, it
> will
> > not update
>
>
> When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After
> dealing with it, i sort of lost track of what was happening in that arena.
> However, i don't want to get involved with that again.
>
Motherboard firmware could be switched to the legacy BIOS/MBR mode, so you
do not
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 10:28:34AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote:
> One potential gotcha. When you boot from an mdadm file system containing
> /boot/grub, grub will not write to the file system. In particular, it will
> not update grub/grubenv even if you have a save_env line in grub.cfg. So if
>
Bon, je me réponds, car j'avance.
Premièrement il semblerait que de nombreux programmes, dont cheese, ne
peuvent pas gérer ces hautes résolutions. PAs de piste pour l'instant.
Donc ils retombent systématiquement à une résolution moindre. Camorama
le ferait (?), disparu des dépôts debian sid...
Greetings, Debian users
I have Debian Buster fully updated. After fiddling with some themes, qt
applications (vlc, qbittorrent and others I guess) stopped showing
their icons in the xfce notification area. I tried removing and adding
again the notification area thingie, but no luck.
On 03/07/2021 12:48 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
[snip]
I was dragged, "kicking and screaming" to UEFI booting. But, now that
I'm here, it's "sort of" grown on me.
What helped me, a lot, is a package called Refind. It's available on
Debian, through normal Apt-Get, though it's good to,
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 04:55:11PM +, Tiago Zaniquelli wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I am trying to setup my notebook with fingerprint login but I didn't have
> success.
There is a related thread over at debian-project. It starts
here:
On 3/7/21 12:48 AM, David Christensen wrote:
The Debian x86 installer detects if you have booted the computer in BIOS
or UEFI mode, and works accordingly.
"Debian amd64 installer" is more accurate.
David
On 3/6/21 9:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM Dan Hitt wrote:
I think that i will need to get new desktop hardware, so i'm trying to
figure out what to do.
When i got my last hardware, one challenge was UEFI booting, iirc. After
dealing with it, i sort of lost track of
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