Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-28 Thread Dan Ritter
davidson wrote: > > I would like for Debian to make more official an offline mode for > > using apt probably based on java, so that any machine could be used to > > download packages to be then installed off-line for those of us who > > don't/can't see the Internet as a trusted environment. > >

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-28 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 28 2021 at 08:20:37 PM, Gregor Zattler wrote: > Dear debian users, the company which employs me uses MS 365 > (former Office 365) in a federated setup where users are > taken from MS to the companys login server for > authentication. > > Which means that I have to authenticate via a

Re: ubuntu/snap future

2021-04-28 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/7/21, Dan Ritter wrote: >> riveravaldez wrote: >> >> Hi, I was under the impression that (besides being fully open) Flatpak >> had >> better confinement method that Canonical's Snap, anybody knows if this is >> correct? > > "Two years ago I wrote about then heavily-pushed Flatpak, >

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-28 Thread davidson
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: [snip] I will get "married" to Debian (why not? some people would marry their pets ... ;-)) if it includes the following startup options right of the live DVD: * toram * memtest * testCD In my opinion none of those functions are hard to include at

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-28 Thread davidson
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: Or toggle "javascript.enabled" to false in "about:config" - no extensions required. the assumption being that you would use, trust firefox. A well-documented, XML-based open source kind of proxy/gateway through which all requests are sent and

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-28 Thread davidson
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 Albretch Mueller wrote: On Thu 22 Apr 2021 Dan Ritter wrote: What you lose this way (besides time) is having apt calculate which supporting packages you need. However, https://packages.debian.org will happily tell you all the dependencies of any given package, and then

Re: Evolution

2021-04-28 Thread deloptes
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > My intentions are to try it again one day to attempt to figure out why > it didn't work. It's comforting to know it's not just me encountering > something usability related there. :) thank you for sharing this. I can share the comforting. I dropped Gnome into the basket

Re: Evolution

2021-04-28 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/27/21, deloptes wrote: > > If you want a stable desktop you know there is one called Trinity Desktop > (TDE) - it just works. But upfront the Evolution monster will behave the > same if you insist using it :D While attempting to find something calendar-like, I tried Evolution on Xfce4 about

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Joe
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:42:23 -0400 Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:20:58 -0400 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > >> FWIW, I'm pretty sure that such anectodal evidence is of no > > >> importance because you can also come up with examples where the > > >> situation is reversed. > > > Can

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread davidson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 mick crane wrote: I think Google tailors results according to what they know about you. Even if you reset the router to a new IP and clear all the cookies they still seem to know. I've wondered if the browser has an identifying number. Supplementing the observations made

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Joel Roth writes: >> So we could consider problem 1) solved. >> >> Let's try to go to problem 2). The above command properly sends channel 1 >> to loudspeaker 1 and channel 2 to loudspeaker 2, but it doesn't manage to >> send channel 3 into loudspeaker 3. Actually, the Behringer seems to

Re: Kuren bij starten van Testing

2021-04-28 Thread richard lucassen
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:33:42 +0200 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Nee, maar het zal wel weer een kopie zijn van. En volgens mij is er > > geen birth flag onder Linux, tenminste, dat meen ik ooit eens > > ergens gelezen te hebben. > > Dat moet dan wel eventjes geleden zijn ;-) Ja, en dan misschien

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Joel Roth
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 06:21:27PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Joel Roth writes: > > > I don't think there is a problem with ecasound. > > For comparison, you can try > > > > aplay -D test.wav > > > > You get the device name from aplay -L. > > Please also show the output from > > > > cat

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Joel Roth writes: > I don't think there is a problem with ecasound. > For comparison, you can try > > aplay -D test.wav > > You get the device name from aplay -L. > Please also show the output from > > cat /proc/asound/cards > > With your ecasound examples, the -a argument is not necessary,

how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-28 Thread Gregor Zattler
Dear debian users, the company which employs me uses MS 365 (former Office 365) in a federated setup where users are taken from MS to the companys login server for authentication. Which means that I have to authenticate via a web form with the company's login server. MS does not know the

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 apr 21, 17:07:42, mick crane wrote: > > I think Google tailors results according to what they know about you. > Even if you reset the router to a new IP and clear all the cookies they > still seem to know. I've wondered if the browser has an identifying number. > mick If you're using

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread deloptes
Kasper Loopstra wrote: > What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this? There are ports of Sailfish OS for x86 or if not suitable something around nemomobile and the like https://sailfish-x86.yeheng.org/

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Joel Roth
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:48:33AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > didier gaumet writes: > > > Le 28/04/2021 à 09:37, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : > > [...] > >> First of all, problem 1): same error now with a 2-channel and a 3-channel > >> file: > > [...] > >> ERROR: Connecting chainsetup failed:

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:07:42 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2021-04-28 16:05, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:02:19 +0100 > > wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:46:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > You've been making some very interesting points here

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:20:58 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> FWIW, I'm pretty sure that such anectodal evidence is of no importance > >> because you can also come up with examples where the situation > >> is reversed. > > Can you? > > I meant "you" in a very general sense: I'm pretty sure it's

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> FWIW, I'm pretty sure that such anectodal evidence is of no importance >> because you can also come up with examples where the situation >> is reversed. > Can you? I meant "you" in a very general sense: I'm pretty sure it's possible, but no, I haven't done the necessary work (and I'm not very

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:07:42PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > I think Google tailors results according to what they know about you. Of course they do. That's a selling point (from their POV, at least). > Even if you reset the router to a new IP and clear all the cookies > they still seem to

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread mick crane
On 2021-04-28 16:05, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:02:19 +0100 wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:46:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > You've been making some very interesting points here about the key > being context, but I'm not sure I totally buy it. DDG simply doesn't > work

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:45:59 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Here's a sort of example I just ran into. When trying to find > > information about Thetis hardware security keys, DDG simply couldn't > > find the company's website: searching DDG for "thetis key" turns up (in > > the first page of

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:45:59AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Here's a sort of example I just ran into [...] > FWIW, I'm pretty sure that such anectodal evidence is of no importance > because you can also come up with examples where the situation > is reversed. Still it might tell us

Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Here's a sort of example I just ran into. When trying to find > information about Thetis hardware security keys, DDG simply couldn't > find the company's website: searching DDG for "thetis key" turns up (in > the first page of hits) a bunch of Amazon listings, and a bunch of > reviews of, and

Re: Video wil niet afspelen

2021-04-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:27:34AM +0200, henk van ballegooijen wrote: > Om de inhoud van de container te bekijken kun je mediainfo proberen. (pakket > mediainfo-gui + afhankelijkheden) ffprobe geeft toch wel meer informatie. Mijn pakket "SReview" doet bijvoorbeeld dit ergens: ffprobe

Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

2021-04-28 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:05:54AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:02:19 +0100 > wrote: [...] > > Could you give an example where DDG fails and Google succeeds? > > Here's a sort of example I just ran into. When trying to find > information about Thetis hardware security keys,

Re: Kuren bij starten van Testing

2021-04-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 09:06:31PM +0200, Richard Lucassen wrote: > On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:16:44 +0200 > Sjoerd wrote: > > > > Die Access time schrijft-ie dan niet naar disk. Omdat dat vaak niet > > > interessant is scheelt dat weer schrijfacties. > > > > Interessant allemaal, 'stat' kende ik

Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

2021-04-28 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:02:19 +0100 wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:46:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > You've been making some very interesting points here about the key > > being context, but I'm not sure I totally buy it. DDG simply doesn't > > work well for me in certain areas

Re: arrière plan image pour visioconférence

2021-04-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/04/2021 à 15:59, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 08:43 +0200, fabricer a écrit : hello, Je recherche un moyen de placer une image [zap] convenir sous Linux ? teams de M$ le propose. Comment ça je me gourré de liste de diffusion ! ;) Pas spécialement d'erreur

Re: arrière plan image pour visioconférence

2021-04-28 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 08:43 +0200, fabricer a écrit : > hello, > > > Je recherche un moyen de placer une image > [zap] > > convenir sous Linux ? > teams de M$ le propose. > > Comment ça je me gourré de liste de diffusion ! ;) > Pas spécialement d'erreur de liste. Il y a une version linux

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-04-28 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 08:49 +0200, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > > > Qu'est-ce qui change entre un Thinkpad et les autres modèles Lenovo > > niveau BIOS/EFI ? > > Bonjour, > > Ce n'est pas la même gamme de produit et j'ai toujours eu beaucoup > plus de problèmes

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le 28/04/2021 à 13:48, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : [...] $ ecasound -a:1,2,3 -i:sndfile,3canali.wav -o alsahw,2,0 [...] I would suggest you to try here to replace alshw by alsaplugin and see if it works better If you want to use ecasound, I suggest you read the ecasound documentation

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 22:13, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote: >> On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: >>> On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support >

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support launching external programs and/or webpages easily. I don't

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: >> On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: >>> I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support >>> launching external programs and/or webpages easily. >> I don't know about the rest, but

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
didier gaumet writes: > Le 28/04/2021 à 09:37, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : > [...] >> First of all, problem 1): same error now with a 2-channel and a 3-channel >> file: > [...] >> ERROR: Connecting chainsetup failed: "Enabling chainsetup: AUDIOIO-ALSA: >> ... Channel count 2 is out of range!" >

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support launching external programs and/or webpages easily. I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions installed in order

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > Hi all, > > > I am trying to use a multi-touch monitor (Dell P2418HT) with Debian as > a front-end for a media center setup. Ideally this system would work > without having a mouse attached, and allow touching icons on some kind > of Desktop or main

Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
Hi all, I am trying to use a multi-touch monitor (Dell P2418HT) with Debian as a front-end for a media center setup. Ideally this system would work without having a mouse attached, and allow touching icons on some kind of Desktop or main screen to open specific webpages in Firefox and/or

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Joel Roth
-- --- Begin Message --- On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 07:37:27AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Joel Roth writes: > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:22:11AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > >> > >> ecasound -i:libsndfile,audiofile -o alsa > > > > that should be -i:sndfile > > > Thanks, Joel... > > > 2

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le 28/04/2021 à 09:37, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : [...] First of all, problem 1): same error now with a 2-channel and a 3-channel file: [...] ERROR: Connecting chainsetup failed: "Enabling chainsetup: AUDIOIO-ALSA: ... Channel count 2 is out of range!" [...]

TEST2

2021-04-28 Thread Fab
TEST2 from kaz emails f.

problème avec evolution et gnome-keyring-daemon

2021-04-28 Thread benoit
Bonjour à tou·te·s, Habituellement mon client mail ouvre un prompt graphique pour gnome-keyring-daemon dans lequel je tape mon mot de passe. Et là le prompt ne s’affiche pas quand je lance mon client mail (evolution), je n’ai rien changé à ma config. Comment lancer gnome-keyring-daemon pour

Re: arrière plan image pour visioconférence

2021-04-28 Thread Nicolas Faure
Bonjour, Jitsi propose plusieurs arrières plan. Nicolas Le 28/04/2021 à 07:10, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Bonjour, Je recherche un moyen de placer une image d'arrière plan lors d'une visioconférence afin de simplement neutraliser l'environnement Quelles sont les solutions qui

Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Joel Roth writes: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:22:11AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: >> >> ecasound -i:libsndfile,audiofile -o alsa > > that should be -i:sndfile Thanks, Joel... 2 problems seem to be involved: 1) make ecasound read and play the file; 2) properly use all those many outputs on

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-04-28 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > Le mardi 27 avril 2021 à 09:46 +0200, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : >> kaliderus a écrit : >>> Mesdames Messieurs bonjour, >>> >>> Je zappais sur le site de Lenovo afin de m'enquérir des >>> dernières évolutions matériel, lorsqu'en effectuant une >>> simulation de

Re: arrière plan image pour visioconférence

2021-04-28 Thread fabricer
hello, Je recherche un moyen de placer une image [zap] convenir sous Linux ? teams de M$ le propose. Comment ça je me gourré de liste de diffusion ! ;) f.

Re: arrière plan image pour visioconférence

2021-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
D'après une rapide recherche, ça semble une fonctionnalité proposée par certains logiciels, d'origine ou via une extension. Donc à chercher dans les possibilités du logiciel que tu utilises?