Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 07:16:30PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Will the merge-usr cause myself problem ? > > You would end up with an empty partition, and possibly an overflowed > root partition, if you made the root partition too small to hold all > of the content from /usr. I

Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-07-18 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.07.2021 05:13, w...@mgssub.com wrote: I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those efforts s

Re: help with dpkg!

2021-07-18 Thread David Christensen
On 7/18/21 4:53 PM, w...@mgssub.com wrote: When dpkg tries to build a new initrd my system crashes. how can I stop dpkg from trying to build a new initrd so I can do some other apt things to fix my system? Many TIA!!! Dennis Can you manually build a new initrd? Why does dpkg try to build

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-18 7:21 p.m., Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 05:54:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> On 2021-07-18 5:07 p.m., Andy Smith wrote: >>> I recommend understanding the issue before putting forth an opinion. >>> >> Maybe I shall correct what I s

Re: help with dpkg!

2021-07-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 18 Jul 2021 at 16:53:37 (-0700), w...@mgssub.com wrote: > When dpkg tries to build a new initrd my system > crashes. how can I stop dpkg from trying to build a new initrd so I can do > some other apt things to fix my system? Try setting update_initramfs=no in /etc/initramfs-tools/upd

Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

2021-07-18 Thread wix
I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit) and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those efforts so far! Any other ideas suggestions would be apprec

help with dpkg!

2021-07-18 Thread wix
When dpkg tries to build a new initrd my system crashes. how can I stop dpkg from trying to build a new initrd so I can do some other apt things to fix my system?Many TIA!!!Dennis

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 Jul 2021 at 19:16:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think > > mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue? > > What issue? -devel are presently ha

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, July 18, 2021 09:37:53 AM David wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:08, wrote: > > Interesting -- not surprising, makes sense, but something (for me, at > > least) to keep in mind -- probably not a good idea to run on an old > > drive that hasn't been backed up. > > Sorry if my language

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think > mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue? What issue? > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 16:31 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > I currently

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread David Christensen
On 7/18/21 2:29 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: David Christensen writes: You should consider upgrading to Debian 10 -- more people run that and you will get better support. It's on my TODO list. As well as upgrading the very old hardware. Currently, it's a Gigabyte P35-DS3L with an Intel Core2Duo

Re: VirtualBox Problem

2021-07-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 08:12:53PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-07-17 20:00, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > First off, let me say that I am not trying to start a war or nasty > > exchange4of insults. > > > > I am forced by circumstance to run a Linux program on my Windows 10 > > Laptop. In ord

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue? On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 16:31 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > > > But in any case, given that merged-usr-via-aliased-dirs is not > > > really > > > su

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread Urs Thuermann
David Christensen writes: > You should consider upgrading to Debian 10 -- more people run that and > you will get better support. It's on my TODO list. As well as upgrading the very old hardware. Currently, it's a Gigabyte P35-DS3L with an Intel Core2Duo E8400 CPU and 8 GB RAM. It's only my pr

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 04:31:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > My personal opinion is that Debian is going into a mostly "we got the > best idea in the world but forgot that not everyone implement things the > same way". I recommend understanding the issue before puttin

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread David Christensen
On 7/18/21 2:16 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 02:03:15PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: But much more noticable is the difference of data reads of the two disks, i.e. 55 GB and 27 GB, i.e. roughly twice as much data is read from /dev/sdb compared to /dev/sda. Trying to f

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, >> But in any case, given that merged-usr-via-aliased-dirs is not really >> supported by dpkg anyway, it is broken by design [B], I have no >> intention whatsoever to break any of my systems with such layout >> going forward, I'm thus planning to spend any necessary volunteer >> time implement

Re: Free LAMP VPS hosting

2021-07-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-18 3:36 a.m., Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 7/18/21 10:07 AM, john doe wrote: >> Debians, >> >> I have a LAMP configured at home but now I would like to make this LAMP >> publickly available to the world. >> >> As it was suggested on this list, it is not reasonable to make my LAMP >

Issues, question and feedback on ncmpcpp

2021-07-18 Thread l0f4r0
Hi fellow users, For those who are using ncmpcpp (ideally on stable like me but differences can be interesting as well): 1) Does lyric fetching work? Not for me. Indeed, each integrated lyrics service (lyricswiki.com, azlyrics.com, genius.com, sing365.com...) returns "Not found". Only "the Inte

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-07-18 14:37, David wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:08, wrote: On Saturday, July 17, 2021 09:30:56 PM David wrote: > The 'smartctl' manpage explains how to run and abort self-tests. > It also says that a running test can degrade the performance of the drive. Interesting -- not surp

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread David
On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:08, wrote: > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 09:30:56 PM David wrote: > > The 'smartctl' manpage explains how to run and abort self-tests. > > It also says that a running test can degrade the performance of the drive. > Interesting -- not surprising, makes sense, but somethi

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread David Christensen
On 7/17/21 6:30 PM, David wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 07:03, David Christensen wrote: On 7/17/21 5:34 AM, Urs Thuermann wrote: On my server running Debian stretch, the storage setup is as follows: Two identical SATA disks with 1 partition on each drive spanning the whole drive, i.e. /dev/s

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, July 17, 2021 09:30:56 PM David wrote: > The 'smartctl' manpage explains how to run and abort self-tests. > It also says that a running test can degrade the performance of the drive. Interesting -- not surprising, makes sense, but something (for me, at least) to keep in mind -- proba

Re: RAID-1 and disk I/O

2021-07-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 02:03:15PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > But much more noticable is the difference of data reads of the two > > disks, i.e. 55 GB and 27 GB, i.e. roughly twice as much data is read > > from /dev/sdb compared to /dev/sda. Trying to figure out the reason >

Re: Free LAMP VPS hosting

2021-07-18 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 7/18/21 10:07 AM, john doe wrote: > Debians, > > I have a LAMP configured at home but now I would like to make this LAMP > publickly available to the world. > > As it was suggested on this list, it is not reasonable to make my LAMP > available online (security wise/no commercial link). > > Lo

Re: Free LAMP VPS hosting

2021-07-18 Thread David Christensen
On 7/18/21 12:07 AM, john doe wrote: Debians, I have a LAMP configured at home but now I would like to make this LAMP publickly available to the world. As it was suggested on this list, it is not reasonable to make my LAMP available online (security wise/no commercial link). Looking online for

Free LAMP VPS hosting

2021-07-18 Thread john doe
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