Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
Ottavio Caruso writes: > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB > ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it > won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am > wrong). Never mind put an 8GB stick; it might not even work. > > At t

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
writes: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: >> 황병희 writes: >> >> > Douglas McGarrett writes: >> > >> >> [...] >> >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug >> > >> > Yes it is

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > 황병희 writes: > > > Douglas McGarrett writes: > > > >> [...] > >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. > >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > > > Yes it is locked os. By the way

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
황병희 writes: > Douglas McGarrett writes: > >> [...] >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux > kernel. So i love chromebook.

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread David Christensen
On 3/5/22 02:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 05/03/2022 00:56, David Christensen wrote: On 3/4/22 02:47, Ottavio Caruso wrote: One of my memory slot has died, I would retire that computer. Thanks. Where do I send my bank details for the funding of a new laptop? so I am running a Thinkpad

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Richmond
Marc Auslander writes: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, > supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have > to. > > So what suggestions does anyo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
For someone that have same problem as mine, "Token has been expired or revoked" in Gmail OAuth2 authentication method each seven days, I found a how to by pass this one: https://stackoverflow.com/a/67966982/1461165 -- Marcelo

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 06:44 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/06/2022 05:43 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there wou

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 10:25 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [ *SNIP* ] I guess that gparted's confusion is because of the nested partitions. Another cause could be the GPT and APM debris. (It is the main job of make_isombr_part to remove this.) In order to check the theory about nested partitions you could de

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Johann Klammer wrote: ... > Likely the xorg video driver. > Try installing the alternatives possible for your hardware. > avoid the closed source nvidias. > They've had the hard lock ups since about 2000. > nouveau and framebuffer ones will probably work. hi, thanks for the hints, i just have t

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, :) ... > songbird wrote: >> one of the nice people here posted a program for doing this >> called make_isombr_part (or something similar). > > That was me. > > Presentation of first version: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01215.html > > Richard

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > songbird wrote: ... >> i have two versions of it now, but it was a five years ago and >> i don't recall if i made the changes or got a new version from >> the author. :) > > Your request for a dry-run mode was fulfilled by a new version: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > The error message block is titled > > It is not possible to create more than 1 primary partition There should still 2 MBR partition table slots free. Both could become primary partitions, although a provident partition editor could force you to use the last partition a

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, John Hasler wrote: Marcelo Laia wrote: Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google

Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Mar 2022 at 06:40:07 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > Find another mail host. > > > > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? > > I tend towards smaller, but established local providers.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, Marcelo Laia wrote: we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this, b

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Marcelo Laia wrote: > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google "evil". They're just an advertising agen

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread Linux-Fan
Emanuel Berg writes: Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the previous estimate/approximation at 80. The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) It does, see https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uploads/ASUS-ROG-Strix-B450-F-Gaming-Benchmark-1.jpg which is fro

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread Johann Klammer
On 03/06/2022 01:20 PM, songbird wrote: > ok, i've finally had my computer lock up again while i've > set up the core dumps and i was hoping that i'd get an > actual core dump file to help narrow things down to a > specific programs, but no luck with that at all. > > system is running Debian Testi

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 07:09 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it This should work fine after above dd run. I does. 2. Gparted would not complain about b

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, as usual, a little mistake: I worte: > That's the version which is still available as > http://scdbackup.webframe.org/make_isombr_part.c > MD5 dd3e1a16e9593f908a1ce9ec848fd929 That is the MD5 of the amd64 executable binary. The MD5 of the source file is 34aa900801f65955a61cebf0280eeb3b .

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Currently I use > > > dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it This should work fine after above dd run. > > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size Usually the partition editors co

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 05:43 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc files

system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
ok, i've finally had my computer lock up again while i've set up the core dumps and i was hoping that i'd get an actual core dump file to help narrow things down to a specific programs, but no luck with that at all. system is running Debian Testing, updates applied each morning. desktop is MATE.

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > Currently I use >> dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size > 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc files one of the nice people her

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the > previous estimate/approximation at 80. > > The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) > > So no it says it is is worst-case 277 W, and with +30% wiggle > room it is 361 W :( > > back to passive 400W

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 04:52 AM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:06:23 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least t

Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
> we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this, but, after OAuth2 implementation, token exp

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:06:23 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > Currently I use > > dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size > 3. there would be at least two partitions usable m

Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc files TIA

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 03:47:25AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-) > > I guess the reel and line are up to me ;} This is due to the irremediable kit & tinkerer mentality a

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message startx

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tv.debian
Le 06/03/2022 à 06:40, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: Find another mail host. Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I tend towards smaller, but established local providers. For example, around here, i

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 03:00 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doe

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment > > When I attempted to run startx I received the message > >> startx: command not found > > Hi Rich

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems > connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone > 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. > Yesterday it was fi

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 02:34 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message startx: command not found Hi Richard, I can't tell you anything about

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment > When I attempted to run startx I received the message >> startx: command not found Hi Richard, I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to instal

Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
I used debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install CLI of Debian. I then did: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message startx: command not found IIRC this has worked in the past. But it has been a couple of years. W