Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread DdB
Hey, excellent! much to my liking, you are coming up with most of the things, i already do. But never stop improving on them ... Yes, i use VCS, in my case git. Yes, i use SSD, in my case nvme, yes, i use SSH (even from a vm to the host), in order to create a simulation of it for

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread Datakanja de Bruyn
Hi songbird, Am 27.03.2022 um 03:46 schrieb songbird: > also have both grub and refind > installed. Excellent to know! I was certain, that refind was the debian way to multi-booting on UEFI and not broken in any way. Thanks for confirming that. And when it comes to your suggestions,

Re: Under each of these scenarios, what is the neatest and simplest way to manipulate the /etc/network/interfaces file?

2022-03-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 08:48:35AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Maybe I should remove the trinity-3c-app-mailcom block, since it > no longer seems to be doing anything helpful...? Looking at my mailbox I've got hundreds of hits matching that, from many differently apparently-real people

Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread DdB
Hello Felix, thank you for your roadmap layout for solving my problem in a smart way. Am 27.03.2022 um 00:15 schrieb Felix Miata: > I find online upgrades to be easier than all the reconfiguration necessary to > reach my happy state starting from a virgin installation. Yep, i remember the shift

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread David Christensen
On 3/26/22 15:16, Datakanja de Bruyn wrote: Just a bit of context: I am old + handicapped + pretty much isolated, thus certainly not an expert. But i am happily using debian stable (oldstable by now) since several years. But since more and more software got outdated, i was interested to move to

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread songbird
Datakanja de Bruyn wrote: ... > 1. bullseye installer had installed grub2 over refind, thereby killing > my setup made for safety purpose. some of this may not fit your system, but it may help get you further in the ballpark. :) here are my notes and suggestions from previous events: if

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread songbird
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: ... > What _exactly_ did you do? Refind is not guaranteed to work. once it is installed it shouldn't be clobbered by grub upgrades either, but oh well stuff happens. see my other note... > Did you have two partitions on the disk / two separate disks to do the

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread DdB
Thank you Andrew, answering to your questions first: >>(...) Am 26.03.2022 um 23:45 schrieb Andrew M.A. Cater: > What _exactly_ did you do? Refind is not guaranteed to work. apt install refind refind-mkdefault > > Did you have two partitions on the disk / two separate disks to do the install

Re: Under each of these scenarios, what is the neatest and simplest way to manipulate the /etc/network/interfaces file?

2022-03-26 Thread David
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 23:48, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:43:36PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 25 Mar 2022 at 07:31:14 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote: > If "Stella" is > a real person who has been blocked as collateral damage, well, that's > unfortunate. You can

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread Felix Miata
Datakanja de Bruyn composed on 2022-03-26 23:16 (UTC+0100): > Any hint will be greatly appreciated. If you've recovered your original (Buster?) oldstable to good working/booting order, you may install Bullseye without a bootloader, thus not disrupting Buster booting, and use Buster or rEFInd to

Re: Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 11:16:37PM +0100, Datakanja de Bruyn wrote: Hi Datakanja > Just a bit of context: > I am old + handicapped + pretty much isolated, thus certainly not an expert. > But i am happily using debian stable (oldstable by now) since several > years. But since more and more

Dangerous installation of bullseye: What shall i do next?

2022-03-26 Thread Datakanja de Bruyn
Just a bit of context: I am old + handicapped + pretty much isolated, thus certainly not an expert. But i am happily using debian stable (oldstable by now) since several years. But since more and more software got outdated, i was interested to move to bullseye. In order to have 2 bootable

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:00:14 -0500 Intense Red wrote: Hello Intense, > I think you mean 11.3. Yves means 10.12. Just because you have no interest in it -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 02:00:14PM -0500, Intense Red wrote: > > Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? > >I think you mean 11.3. > >Either way, it usually takes a few hours or the next day before torrents > are created and the web pages are updated. > >

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Intense Red
> Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I think you mean 11.3. Either way, it usually takes a few hours or the next day before torrents are created and the web pages are updated. https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ -- Fast fact: 90% of the American media is

Re: Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 02:29:00PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I can't > find any. > > -- > Yves Bellefeuille > > > Hi Yves Please wait - we're in the middle of testing images for Debian 11 at the moment and images for

Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I can't find any. -- Yves Bellefeuille

Torrents for 10.12

2022-03-26 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Are there torrents for Debian 10.12 which was just announced? I can't find any. -- Yves Bellefeuille

Bind9, /etc/network/interfaces och resolv.conf?

2022-03-26 Thread Jens A Andersson
Hoppas någon kan ge mej ett råd. Har i många kört en lokal dns-server som forwarder och som root för min egen högst privata och lokala domän. Vid en av de senaste apt-uppgraderingarna slutade dns-server att fungera fullt ut. I probklemlösandet stöter jag på denna fråga: Ska den serverns egen

Re: Fwd: How to Diagnose Mysterious System Freeze?

2022-03-26 Thread piorunz
On 26/03/2022 03:22, Phil V wrote: Please help! About once a week my up-to-date Debian system freezes completely. What GPU and driver? Please show inxi -G -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄

Re: Fwd: How to Diagnose Mysterious System Freeze?

2022-03-26 Thread songbird
Phil V wrote: >> If you are unable to determine which package your bug report should be filed >> against, please send e-mail to the Debian user mailing list asking for >> advice. > > Please help! > About once a week my up-to-date Debian system freezes completely. > Graphical interface is

Re: debug systemd restart networking problem

2022-03-26 Thread john doe
On 3/26/2022 2:15 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: I have been doing various changes to my network but have now got to the stage where I have errors running systemd restart networking systemctl status networking ● networking.service - Raise network interfaces Loaded: loaded

Re: inkomende mail met poort 25 geblokkeerd

2022-03-26 Thread mj
Hoi, Op 26-03-2022 om 15:14 schreef Martijn van de Streek: Persoonlijk zou ik hiervoor een (virtueel) servertje huren voor een paar euro per maand. Dan kun je een tunnel (bijv. WireGuard) opzetten tussen je mailhost thuis en die VPS, wat port forwards instellen en zo voor een "vast IP" voor je

Re: inkomende mail met poort 25 geblokkeerd

2022-03-26 Thread Martijn van de Streek
mj schreef op za 26-03-2022 om 09:57 [+0100]: > Ik ben vast niet de enige hier die zoiets probeert te doen, met een > ISP > die poort 25 blokkeert. > > Zijn er mensen hier met tips of suggesties? Ik kan natuurlijk altijd > ergens een cloud server nemen en daar zelf de 'herbezorging-naar- >

Re: Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread 황병희
> Security is always a tradeoff with usability; ... +; Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _和合團結_ 감사합니다_^))//

debug systemd restart networking problem

2022-03-26 Thread Jeremy Ardley
I have been doing various changes to my network but have now got to the stage where I have errors running systemd restart networking systemctl status networking ● networking.service - Raise network interfaces Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; vendor preset:

Re: inkomende mail met poort 25 geblokkeerd

2022-03-26 Thread mj
Hoi! Op 26-03-2022 om 11:40 schreef Diederik de Haas: Heb je al aan t-mobile gevraagd of ze het voor jou willen de-blokkeren? Ik kan me voorstellen dat ze het *by default* blokkeren omdat de meeste van hun klanten waarschijnlijk te weinig kennis hebben om hun systemen zo in te richten en bij te

Re: Under each of these scenarios, what is the neatest and simplest way to manipulate the /etc/network/interfaces file?

2022-03-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:43:36PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > In passing, I'm mystified by your quoting mechanism thinking > it appropriate to display my time header in Chinese time: > $ TZ='Asia/Shanghai' date --date='Thu, 24 Mar 2022 21:09:41 -0500' > Fri Mar 25 10:09:41 CST 2022 > $ > > On

Re: Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.03.2022 13:50, André Rodier wrote: Hi all, I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. I am registered on The Debian security list, and I see a lot of CVE coming, some of them with a high score, mentioning

Re: Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-03-26 at 07:20, Dan Ritter wrote: > André Rodier wrote: > >> I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about >> Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. > > Security is always a tradeoff with usability; Thunderbird is so > heavily skewed towards usability,

Re: Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread Dan Ritter
André Rodier wrote: > I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about > Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. Security is always a tradeoff with usability; Thunderbird is so heavily skewed towards usability, it has a whole web browser in it. > In term of

Re: Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 26/03/2022 05:50, André Rodier wrote: I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. I am registered on The Debian security list, and I see a lot of CVE coming, some of them with a high score, mentioning execution of

Re: inkomende mail met poort 25 geblokkeerd

2022-03-26 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Saturday, 26 March 2022 09:57:11 CET mj wrote: > Ik wil graag thuis (via mn glasvezel) een mailserver draaien, echter > t-mobile blokkeert poort 25, zowel in als uit. Heb je al aan t-mobile gevraagd of ze het voor jou willen de-blokkeren? Ik kan me voorstellen dat ze het *by default* blokkeren

Re: Under each of these scenarios, what is the neatest and simplest way to manipulate the /etc/network/interfaces file?

2022-03-26 Thread Curt
On 2022-03-26, David Wright wrote: >> >> When the /etc/network/interfaces file has the line >> >> source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > > An eccentric choice. But no elaboration, opinion, or reasoning. > >> Best wishes. > > To you too. Over and out. I think it was John Hasler who

inkomende mail met poort 25 geblokkeerd

2022-03-26 Thread mj
Hoi! Niet debian specifiek, maar hopelijk toch relevant en wellicht interessant. Ik wil graag thuis (via mn glasvezel) een mailserver draaien, echter t-mobile blokkeert poort 25, zowel in als uit. Uit is geen probleem, want kan natuurlijk versturen via een smarthost. Ik zit een beetje met

Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread André Rodier
Hi all, I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. I am registered on The Debian security list, and I see a lot of CVE coming, some of them with a high score, mentioning execution of arbitrary code or information

Thunderbird security

2022-03-26 Thread André Rodier
Hi all, I would like to collect, from this thread, your experience and opinion about Mozilla Thunderbird, in term of security. I am registered on The Debian security list, and I see a lot of CVE coming, some of them with a high score, mentioning execution of arbitrary code or information