Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 05:32:03PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Ohhhkaaay, but why then do I get a message if looking at the journal as user > 1000, that the user must be a member of the adm group to see all the log, ...unless you use sudo. > AND adding me to the adm group doesn't change

Weird messages on logs.

2023-08-07 Thread Maureen L Thomas
 3:24:29 PM systemd: Failed to start tracker-extract-3.service - Tracker metadata extractor.  3:24:29 PM systemd: Failed to start tracker-extract-3.service - Tracker metadata extractor.  3:23:59 PM systemd: Failed to start tracker-extract-3.service - Tracker metadata extractor.  3:23:29 PM syste

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 10:57:41PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > I have no idea which way you may break journald and why you have not > > just installed rsyslog yet if you trust it more and have a hope to find > > there more info than in journalctl output. jou

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/08/2023 00:35, gene heskett wrote: There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I click on the save to disk button. Really? And certainly --attach/-p option is not a rescue. Sending output to a file, filtering specific calls, increasing pe

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 21:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:03:47PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: And I'm back to hunting for the reason I can ping yahoo.com but not other machines on my local net, that are fully identified in my hosts file or vice versa Start a new thread, and treat the pro

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/08/2023 00:35, gene heskett wrote: There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I click on the save to disk button. Really? And certainly --attach/-p option is not a rescue. Sending output to a file, filtering specific calls, increasing per line size limit are useless option

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:03:47PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > And I'm back > to hunting for the reason I can ping yahoo.com but not other machines on my > local net, that are fully identified in my hosts file or vice versa Start a new thread, and treat the problem seriously. Show us the command

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 20:00, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... I believe konsole is unlimited by default. On checking in settings, its not listed. Scrollback is from my /tmp, which would be on my raid10, so maybe that something else that is blocked from useing my raid10. IDK. ulimit reports unlimited.

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 18:43, Brian wrote: On Mon 07 Aug 2023 at 17:53:41 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is

Re: Install report debain bookworm

2023-08-07 Thread piorunz
On 06/08/2023 22:48, m_josenh...@web.de wrote: Hi, I have today installed debian bookworm. I have a HP Officejet Pro 6380 printer connected via usb and wlan (over the router). In the past I had used KDE Neon. Before I updated KDE Neon to the version with is Ubuntu 04.22. based. I could enter

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > I believe konsole is unlimited by default. On checking in settings, its > not listed. Scrollback is from my /tmp, which would be on my raid10, so > maybe that something else that is blocked from useing my raid10. IDK. > ulimit reports unlimited. And there is 32G of dram

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Aug 2023 at 17:53:41 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys > > > > Did someone mention a hosts file? Is thi

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 16:16, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... Many times over the last 25 years. However this problem occurs when it has already output several gigabytes of previous data the shell has scrolled off the end of th buffer.. There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I click

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 14:57, Brian wrote: On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is this an attempt to move discussion on to a different toic? I thought 'chattr -i' and the w

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 13:23, Henning Follmann wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:41:11AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 +

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > Many times over the last 25 years. However this problem occurs when it > has already output several gigabytes of previous data the shell has > scrolled off the end of th buffer.. There is not a way to have it start > doing the trace when I click on the save to disk butt

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Brian, On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 07:57:07PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys > > Did someone mention a hosts file? If I understand correctly, Gene identifies himself as "a h

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Aug 2023 at 20:50:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Sorry you are so offended by a hosts file user Andy, but when the guys Did someone mention a hosts file? Is this an attempt to move discussion on to a different toic? I thought 'chattr -i' and the wisdom of using it was under disc

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 12:19, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... Absolutely none of that makes it to the log I can read with sudo. This causes me to ask about any new ACL's bookworm might have put in place, but questions about that have so far been totally ignored. I according to an ls -lR, own that r

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:41:11AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > > > > Andy Smith wrote:

Re: why dpms in bullseye fails?

2023-08-07 Thread davidson
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 hlyg wrote: > it used to work > > to make troubleshooting easy, i change to 30 from default 600 > > xset dpms 30 30 30 > > xset q > > ... > > Screen Saver: >   prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes >   timeout:  0    cycle:  600 > > ... > > DPMS (Energy Star): >   Standb

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > Absolutely none of that makes it to the log I can read with sudo. > > This causes me to ask about any new ACL's bookworm might have put in > place, but questions about that have so far been totally ignored. I > according to an ls -lR, own that raid10 lock, stock and bar

Re: Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm,X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

2023-08-07 Thread Christian Britz
gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 10:51, B.M. wrote: >>> ssh -Y -C -l myUser otherHostname.local -v >>> > Is the @ sign between myUser and otherhostname now optional? He uses option -l login_name, which can be used alternatively to login_name@destination.

Re: Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm,X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 10:51, B.M. wrote: On Montag, 7. August 2023 15:19:49 CEST you wrote: Dear all, I just dist-upgraded my Raspberry Pi from buster to bookworm, and while ssh -Y... worked like a charm in before the update and I could start any X11 program over ssh, it doesn't work anymore since then.

Re: Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm, X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

2023-08-07 Thread B.M.
On Montag, 7. August 2023 15:19:49 CEST you wrote: > Dear all, > > I just dist-upgraded my Raspberry Pi from buster to bookworm, and while > > ssh -Y... > > worked like a charm in before the update and I could start any X11 program > over ssh, it doesn't work anymore since then. Executing > > ssh -

Re: Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm, X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

2023-08-07 Thread Christian Britz
Hi Bernd B.M. wrote: I just dist-upgraded my Raspberry Pi from buster to bookworm, and while This might very well be the reason for your problems. You should never skip a release, bullseye in this case. Upgrading directly from oldoldstable to stable will get you unpredictable results. BTW,

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + Andy Smith wrote: [...] In some cases, the release notes actually do tell you how to get back to no

Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm, X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

2023-08-07 Thread B.M.
Dear all, I just dist-upgraded my Raspberry Pi from buster to bookworm, and while ssh -Y... worked like a charm in before the update and I could start any X11 program over ssh, it doesn't work anymore since then. Executing ssh -Y -C -l myUser otherHostname.local -v I get ... debug1: Requestin

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Henning Follmann
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > [...] > In some cases, the release notes actually do tell you how to get back > to normal. err, "how to get back." N

RE: 11 to 12 - fresh install or upgrade

2023-08-07 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> It's time to move from bullseye to bookworm. Based on the previous >> years experience I've always preferred a fresh install vs. an >> upgrade, since the freshly installed system always run smoother and >> was not littered with any old junk left from the old system. [] >> Could you

Re: 11 to 12 - fresh install or upgrade

2023-08-07 Thread Anssi Saari
"Juan R.D. Silva" writes: > ... the freshly installed system always run smoother and was not > littered with any old junk left from the old system. I'd expect some objective data on the former. Did you actually do both fresh installation and upgrade and compared those? > Could you share your op

Re: 11 to 12 - fresh install or upgrade

2023-08-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On 07/08/2023 02:22, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 17:45:25 -0400 "Juan R.D. Silva" wrote: Hi folks, It's time to move from bullseye to bookworm. Based on the previous years experience I've always preferred a fresh install vs. an upgrade, since the freshly installed syste