Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Sep 2023 at 21:57:39 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 08:40:43PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > I know you have a low opinion of allow-hotplug, but I can't see that > > auto/allow-auto is necessarily better for the naive user that doesn't > > install a DE for whatev

Re: WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 08:19:56 (-0600), D. R. Evans wrote: > Starting a new thread so that this doesn't get lost in the postings in > the original thread. > > The original thread was started at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/09/msg00024.html > > That post contains a description of

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-02 Thread David Christensen
On 9/2/23 15:26, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2023-09-02, David Christensen wrote: What statistics are other readers seeing for similar use-cases and their backup solutions? I have 83 backups resulting to 130% of data. So a ratio of 63:1. Nice. But because of performance limitation I don't

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-02 Thread Linux-Fan
Michael Kjörling writes: [...] The biggest issue for me is ensuring that I am not dependent on _anything_ on the backed-up system itself to start restoring that system from a backup. In other words, enabling bare-metal restoration. I figure that I can always download a Debian live ISO, put that

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-02 Thread David Christensen
On 9/2/23 12:15, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2023-09-02, Stefan Monnier wrote: I switched to Bup a few years ago and saw a significant reduction in the size of my backups that is partly due to the deduplication *between* machines (I backup several Debian machines to the same backup repository) as

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread D. R. Evans
Brian wrote on 9/2/23 04:51: Installation over ethernet, no DE - ifupdown provided. Installation over ethernet or wireless with a DE - network-manager provided. Yep, that one's exactly what I experienced. Although the machine is used more like a server than a desktop, it has DE (KDE) to make

Re: WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread D. R. Evans
Brian wrote on 9/2/23 13:01: Send a mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org Ib the mail body put ressign 1051086 installation-report thanks Sorry. That's "reassign". Done. Thank you. I pondered where to assign in, and couldn't see anywhere that the report really fit. (I interpreted "i

Re: WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 19:37:22 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 08:19:56 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > [...] > > > I will file a bug report. > > You have filed the report against general. This is a non-optimal > package. Someone may or may not move it to a better place. > > Doing it

Re: WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 08:19:56 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: [...] > I will file a bug report. You have filed the report against general. This is a non-optimal package. Someone may or may not move it to a better place. Doing it for yourself: Send a mail to cont...@bugs.debian.org Ib the mail b

Backup systems (was: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq)

2023-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> More accurately, rsnapshot (which is basically a frontend to rsync) > tells rsync to do that; IIRC by passing --link-dest pointing at the > previous backup target directory. I've used a similar (tho hand-cooked) script running `rsync`. I switched to Bup a few years ago and saw a significant redu

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-02 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone. I'm trying to configure qemu 5.1 on Debian Buster on top of my ARM chromebook,like this : /configure --disable-werror --target-list=arm-softmmu --enable-opengl --enable-gtk --enable-kvm --enable-guest-agent --enable-spice --audio-drv-list="oss pa" --enable-libusb --enable-trace

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread D. R. Evans
Michael Kjörling wrote on 9/2/23 03:23: You might want to poke around a little among the files in /etc/NetworkManager, particularly /e/NM/system-connections. That's what NetworkManager _should_ be using to set up the interfaces. See if there's something there to explain the two seemingly being

WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread D. R. Evans
Starting a new thread so that this doesn't get lost in the postings in the original thread. The original thread was started at: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/09/msg00024.html That post contains a description of the problem. I now have a workaround (although not an explanation) fo

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >Because we've already deleted the message from person I can understand that for the occasional slip up (1), but when the perpetrator does it habitually (1) Over-zealous with the delete key, for example. -- Regards

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 02, 2023 at 01:09:45PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > Which begs the question: > Why do some people respond to a message from person Y, when they're > /actually/ dealing with something written by person X? Because we've already deleted the message from person X, and didn't notice the issu

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Anssi Saari
"D. R. Evans" writes: > I don't think that debian has used used /etc/network/interfaces for a > while, at least not by default. Certainly there's nothing useful there > on the machine that I just upgraded and whose networking is failing to > configure itself correctly. I used to think that too.

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:08:37 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >I did not write any of the text you quote. You did, but it was not what Timothy was responding to. What you wrote was quoted right at the bottom of the message, and irrelevant to Timothy's response. Which begs the question: Why do

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 6:34 AM Brian wrote: > On Fri 01 Sep 2023 at 16:56:42 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > Michel Verdier wrote on 9/1/23 15:06: > > > > > > > > If you want old names put in /etc/default/grub > > > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0" > > > > > > > Nice to know, but I'll sta

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Sep 2023 at 22:32:00 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 04:16:46PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > I don't think that debian has used used /etc/network/interfaces for a while, > > at least not by default. > > All of my Debian servers (and desktops) have an > /e

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Sep 2023 at 16:56:42 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Michel Verdier wrote on 9/1/23 15:06: > > > > > If you want old names put in /etc/default/grub > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0" > > > > Nice to know, but I'll stay with the new names, I think. > > > network manager is good

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 1 Sep 2023 21:41 -0600, from doc.ev...@gmail.com (D. R. Evans): > It would be nice to really fix the Network Manager misconfiguration; but it > seems that the expertise here is all with old-style. Which is fine. I'm > happy to go back to old-style. You might want to poke around a little among t

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-02 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 2 Sep 2023 00:04 +0200, from mv...@free.fr (Michel Verdier): > rsnapshot use hard links on the backup filesystem. More accurately, rsnapshot (which is basically a frontend to rsync) tells rsync to do that; IIRC by passing --link-dest pointing at the previous backup target directory. And this i