Re: [OFFTOPIC] On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 12:57:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > See my other reply. My whole point is about making lives of curious > > users easier by sticking to the terminology they'll find should they > > dare (yes,please!) to open that door to the cellar. > > The people at Xe

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 08:25:20AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > Small anecdote: there was an old Linux distro (ISTR it was SuSE) where > > something below /etc/init.d (or was it /etc/rc.d? It's a long while > > ago) was a symlink to the parent directory, creating an infinite > > hi

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-06 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > The use of "directory" in the Unix sense predates graphical UI > development. > ... > ... The whole point of the desktop metaphor was to hide all of that from the user. I'm not defending it: just describing a bit of its history. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > Small anecdote: there was an old Linux distro (ISTR it was SuSE) where > something below /etc/init.d (or was it /etc/rc.d? It's a long while > ago) was a symlink to the parent directory, creating an infinite > hierarchy (or a circular reference, depending on how you squint). On Sys

Re: [OFFTOPIC] On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > See my other reply. My whole point is about making lives of curious > users easier by sticking to the terminology they'll find should they > dare (yes,please!) to open that door to the cellar. The people at Xerox PARC and SRI who came up with the desktop metaphor in the early years

Re: sound cards locked, No Host

2023-11-06 Thread Thomas George
good point but no success. used top to find blender and kill. no improvement On 11/6/23 10:53, Marco M. wrote: Am 06.11.2023 um 10:26:53 Uhr schrieb Thomas George: alsactl says sound cards locked. There is a lock directory in var/lib/alsa/asound-state mpv song.ogg fails with message No Host

Re: systemd service oddness with openvpn

2023-11-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 7/11/23 12:41, Richard Hector wrote: Hi all, I have a machine that runs as an openvpn server. It works fine; the VPN stays up. However, after running for a while, I get these repeatedly in syslog: I should also have mentioned - this is debian bookworm (12.2) Richard

local (lan) mirror - release not supported error

2023-11-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
For several years I have been running approx on a machine in the lan, using it to install and update Debian for myself and friends. I have installed several releases, the last being release 12.2 on this machine. Because approx "just runs" trouble-free, I have forgotten the details of the install

systemd service oddness with openvpn

2023-11-06 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, I have a machine that runs as an openvpn server. It works fine; the VPN stays up. However, after running for a while, I get these repeatedly in syslog: Nov 07 12:17:24 ovpn2 openvpn[213741]: Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: opvn2.conf Nov 07 12:17:24

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread Curt
On 2023-11-06, Nicolas George wrote: > Loris Bennett (12023-11-06): >> I beg to differ. I think you are confusing the precise definition of >> something with the label used to refer to it. When the transistor was >> invented, so was a new word to describe it. When this particular >> concept of

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-06 Thread gene heskett
On 11/6/23 10:48, Franco Martelli wrote: On 03/11/23 at 17:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, f

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread Nicolas George
Loris Bennett (12023-11-06): > I beg to differ. I think you are confusing the precise definition of > something with the label used to refer to it. When the transistor was > invented, so was a new word to describe it. When this particular > concept of how to organise data on a computer, about wh

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-06 Thread Loris Bennett
Nicolas George writes: >> Surely 'directory' is also just a more or >> less apt metaphor > > You missed the point: directory is not a metaphor at all, it is a > precise term for what is actually being talked about. I beg to differ. I think you are confusing the prec

Re: sound cards locked, No Host

2023-11-06 Thread Marco M.
Am 06.11.2023 um 10:26:53 Uhr schrieb Thomas George: > alsactl says sound cards locked. There is a lock directory in > var/lib/alsa/asound-state > > mpv song.ogg fails with message No Host > > There may be solutions in the debian-user archives. I am slowly > reading these in search of a solutio

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-06 Thread Franco Martelli
On 03/11/23 at 17:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext4, named and labeled as lvm

sound cards locked, No Host

2023-11-06 Thread Thomas George
Just upgraded to Bookworm no sound. alsactl says sound cards locked. There is a lock directory in var/lib/alsa/asound-state mpv song.ogg fails with message No Host There may be solutions in the debian-user archives. I am slowly reading these in search of a solution. Any help? Tom George

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

2023-11-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-11-06 at 07:50, Marco M. wrote: > Am 06.11.2023 um 06:52:39 Uhr schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: > >> VirtualBox is not available in any Debian Repo. > > It is available in sid, but not in stable. And the reason it isn't available in testing is that there's no viable way to provide securi

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

2023-11-06 Thread Marco M.
Am 06.11.2023 um 06:52:39 Uhr schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: > VirtualBox is not available in any Debian Repo. It is available in sid, but not in stable.

Debian 12 Gnome - No notification for available updates

2023-11-06 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi Debian users, I have a computer running Gnome 43.6 that does not show notification when updates are available. It was working a few months ago, but can not tell when it stops working. Questions: - How can I bring back available update notifications? - Do you think it deserves a bug report

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

2023-11-06 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 4:16 AM జిందం వాఐి wrote: > > PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, > > would there be a better VM supervisor > > I could use? If so, can you point me > > to a set of instructions for it? > > * these are MY personal opnions from > experience [ almost decade ago ] > [ may not

Re: Documentation for KVM/QEMU?

2023-11-06 Thread Hans
Maybe the op wqould like to test aqemu, which is a graphical frontend for qemu and it might be easier for him to configure. In the comparision of aqemu (with using kvm) and VirtualkBox and Virt-Manager my feeling was, Virtualbox the slowest and both Aqemu and VirtManager faster. The latter two

Re: Documentation for KVM/QEMU?

2023-11-06 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2023-11-06 12:45 GMT+05:00, Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net>: > The three biggest differences I have run across (I used VirtualBox > before): > > 1. Storage pools for disk images. With VirtualBox, you can put a disk > image file anywhere. With KVM, they go into one of a defined set of > po

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-06 Thread jeremy ardley
On 6/11/23 15:22, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: For future readers of the list: I had to search for the meaning of an NPU and found this reference helpful - https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ai-101-gpu-vs-tpu-vs-npu/ - no further opinions as to the company behind it. NPU - Neural Processing Unit - c

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

2023-11-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, at 7:04 PM, జిందం వాఐి wrote: >> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, >> would there be a better VM supervisor >> I could use? If so, can you point me >> to a set of instructions for it? > > * these are MY personal opnions from > experience [ almost decade ago ] > [ may not b

Re: how to find libreoffice is built for architecture

2023-11-06 Thread Marco M.
Am 06.11.2023 um 13:51:47 Uhr schrieb జిందం వాఐి: > > (please tell us the OS > > you are using). > * debian bookworm > > * not interested with backports > [ 7.5.6 ] or stable [ 7.4.7 ] Then you don't need to care about sid, unstable nor experimental, only about stable/bookworm.

Re: how to find libreoffice is built for architecture

2023-11-06 Thread జిందం వాఐి
(please tell us the OS you are using). * debian bookworm * not interested with backports [ 7.5.6 ] or stable [ 7.4.7 ] -- regards, జిందం వాఐి [ jindam, vani ] [matrix]_ @jindam.vani:oikei.net

Re: Debian for Celeron

2023-11-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 08:36:43AM +0100, Marco M. wrote: Am 05.11.2023 um 07:30:51 Uhr schrieb Russell L. Harris: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for you CPU. You need the i386 image for your CPU. Use that li