Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread David Christensen
On 9/30/24 09:39, Default User wrote: Hi! On a thread at another mailing list, someone mentioned that they, each day, alternate doing backups between two external usb drives. That got me to thinking (which is always dangerous) . . . I have a full backup on usb external drive A, "refreshed" dail

Re: Testing

2024-09-30 Thread Mike Waters
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 10:46 AM Joe wrote: > > > Is that as good as mutt for viewing this list, ? > > It's been fine for the mailing lists, I haven't needed to use any > archives. I do use mutt on my server as that doesn't have graphics, but > not very often. As far as email goes, I use a local SM

Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 30 Sep 2024 13:12 -0400, from hunguponcont...@gmail.com (Default User): >> Having both drives connected and spinning simultaneusly creates a >> window of opportunity for some nasty ransomware (or a software bug, >> mistake, power surge, whatever) to destroy both backups. Also why I would not wa

Re: rsnapshot; was: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 30 Sep 2024 19:28 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): > On a slight tangent, how does rsnapshot deal with ext4 uninited extents? However rsync does. For the actual file copying, rsnapshot largely just delegates to rsync with --link-dest. Looks like at least the Debian packaged

Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Sep 30, 2024 at 5:39 PM BST, Default User wrote: > So, is there a consensus on which would be better:  > 1) continue to "mirror" drive A to drive B? > or, > 2) alternate backups daily between drives A and B? I'd go for (B), especially if you're continuing to do daily backups, so the oldest

Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024, Default User wrote: Hi! On a thread at another mailing list, someone mentioned that they, each day, alternate doing backups between two external usb drives. That got me to thinking (which is always dangerous) . . . I have a full backup on usb external drive A, "refreshed"

Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Default User
On Mon, 2024-09-30 at 19:54 +0300, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-30 at 12:39 -0400, Default User wrote: > > But of course, any errors on drive A propagate daily to drive B. > > Having both drives connected and spinning simultaneusly creates a > window of opportunity for some nasty ranso

Re: backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Mon, 2024-09-30 at 12:39 -0400, Default User wrote: > But of course, any errors on drive A propagate daily to drive B. Having both drives connected and spinning simultaneusly creates a window of opportunity for some nasty ransomware (or a software bug, mistake, power surge, whatever) to destro

backup of backup or alternating backups?

2024-09-30 Thread Default User
Hi! On a thread at another mailing list, someone mentioned that they, each day, alternate doing backups between two external usb drives. That got me to thinking (which is always dangerous) . . . I have a full backup on usb external drive A, "refreshed" daily using rsnapshot. Then, every day, I

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 30/09/2024, Boyan Penkov a écrit: > -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple > efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? I think yes. > -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 > -- in this case, if /boot/efi becomes corrupted, won't this just co

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 28 Sep 2024 16:28 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): Hmmm, I've managed to fix it. The problem seems to be related to using echo in the exit trap itself while both stderr and stdout are redirected - e.g. via |& tee log If I chang

Re: Testing

2024-09-30 Thread Mike Waters
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 3:21 AM Joe wrote: > > I use Claws-Mail and leave the HTML module turned off, so I certainly > can see it. Is that as good as mutt for viewing this list, especially archived posts? I use a phone for email only if I'm away from home. I can > see it in K9 on a Samsung phon

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, Thanks kindly -- and my apologies for picking this up after a while; fell sick here... A few questions: -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 -- in this ca

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 14:08:19 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Tim Woodall writes: > > > However on trying to debug something else, I wanted to run it like this: > > > > ./script |& tee log > > > > and now it doesn't clean up if I it. > > Just a point here about tee since I didn't see anyone else

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Tim Woodall writes: > However on trying to debug something else, I wanted to run it like this: > > ./script |& tee log > > and now it doesn't clean up if I it. Just a point here about tee since I didn't see anyone else mention it. tee has had the -i option to ignore interrupt signals for ages.