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It should go to debian-talk (is there still a debian-talk?) or one of the
Linux newsgroups.
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Be sure you are loading _both_ the fat and the msdos modules. They
are two halves of the same driver.
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The fix for X slowness under kernel 2.0.24 was tracked down to a networking
bug (thanks to Winfried Truemper for bringing this to my attention). That
means that there will be a 2.0.25 soon. When the dust settles I'll build
a boot disk for 1.2 .
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.
This will break if you download packages that depend on more recent
versions of other packages than the ones on your CD.
I haven't tested this.
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Download the latest version of the debmake package from unstable and
read man alien. Be aware that this is very little tested and you will
be liable to hit bugs. Write to Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about your experiences.
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Look at some of the environment variables that are set when root logs in.
Look especially at $SHELL and $PATH. Type alias and see if any well-known
programs are aliased. These would be set by files like /root/.profile .
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Given that you have 16550A-compatible serial interfaces (or something
else with a deep serial buffer), you should be able to go 115,200 bits
per second over serial lines from one Linux to another. Get a Laplink
cable from the computer store.
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You can pull the entire archive on to a straight MSDOS partition. That's
why we provide an MSDOS area on the FTP system. After you get the system
running, install dpkg-1.4.x.x.deb by hand, and then run
dpkg-scanpackages on all of those packages. You can then use dselect
to select and install them.
Any chance that 1.2 will have a recent kernel (like 2.0.23 or 2.0.24)?
2.0.24 has the big ping fix which I consider important, however I've
heard some applications have problems with .24 due to a change in a
network struct.
It currently has 2.0.23 (although I have not released a boot disk,
No, it is not a virus, although I think that code fragement is now
obsolete. Ian Murdock wrote that to run a configure script the first
time the system boots after being installed. I think I hacked inittab
or something to start the configure script without waiting for the login
prompt in 1.1 ,
From: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about putting in as well that those CD-ROM manufacturers are at last
allowed to include the non-free directory too?
The note I gave them last time on the non-free directory was that they
can include parts of it, but they must read all of the licenses of
Regarding XFree 3.2, it will be in unstable before 1.2 is released.
I guess it is appropriate to recommend that CD manufacturers include
the 27 XFree82 3.2 packages from unstable on their CDs along with
the 3.1 version that will be in the release. When I write the release
notes for CD
Would someone who has gotten their SONY cdu31a working please walk through
the process with this user?
Thanks
Bruce
From: The Darter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bruce!
A friend of send me this:
Run the module configuration, and add the arguments
cdu31_port=3D0x
Enough packages have been built with shadow passwords so that you can
run them. They are available in the project/experimental directory on our
FTP archive. The encryption should be the same.
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Run the module configuration, and add the arguments
cdu31_port=0x cdu31a_irq=X
Fill in your I/O port address and IRQ as appropriate.
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1. Is there a simple program to talk transparently to my RS232 port.
I use minicom. It works with or without a modem.
2. I have noticed that my xterm converts both '^J' and '^M' into
newlines.
For the time being you can use Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2 through F6) to get to
a
You should not have to compile the ibcs package. If your system has direct
access to the Internet, start up dselect as root and select the FTP
installation method. Select the FTP site as ftp.debian.org and the
distribution as stable. Select the packages you want, and then watch
as they are
The person who is building X is expecting to upload them within the
next two weeks - he says sooner, I'm being conservative. The hold-up is
due to our packaging system going through some changes that require
editing of installation scripts. The X source builds 27 binary packages,
no surprise that
XFree86 3.2 will appear in the unstable distribution, and you'll be able
to install it from there.
We unfortunately could not make the release schedule for 1.2 with it
included.
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Read man test. It implements the following construct in shell scripts:
if [ -f /etc/motd ]; then
echo motd exists, and is a regular file.
fi
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To get color ls, use the command
alias ls=ls --color=auto
That's for sh and bash. If you use csh or tcsh use
alias ls ls --color=auto
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We plan to install the debian distribution in the whole network.
Well, I hope you get this via the list, Dirk.
Please fix your mailer, it's not placing
your domain name in your messages.
I was looking for a master installation script to run the installation
Yes, you can make a packages file by running dpkg-scanpackages.
Check out its man page on your Debian system.
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Anyway, I
try to install what the FAQ/DOCS call 'packages', but all I can find is
.deb files.
Those are the packages. You can install them manually using
dpkg -i FILENAME
They may complain that you need to install something else first.
If you want to use dselect (and you should),
From: Jason K. Keimig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can just put:
eval `dircolors`
in your startup script .profile, .tcshrc, .login or whatever... it sets
the color-ls environment appropriately for whatever shell you use.
Are you sure, or am I doing something wrong? Dircolors doesn't turn on
From: Christian Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is in regards to the discussion concerning 'fatal signal 11'
under GCC 2.7.2 on my machine.
Resetting the CPU type from 120Mhz to 100Mhz resolved the problem. I'm
not exactly sure why, but it worked.
Interesting. Did you use the same memory on
Our bash-1.14.6-5 package contained the security bug fix.
That's the current version.
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What I wonder is, is there any reason to buy a PCI card (speedwise) if I
go for the NE2000 compatible one?
As for PCI versions - they're worth it, they
speed up transfers accross the network dramatically (that is, if you have
both cards being PCI).
From: Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It
At 03:52 PM 10/24/96 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote:
An NE2000 is a programmed-IO card, isn't it? While you are transferring
data to and from one, your system isn't processing.
From: Christian Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an Artisoft Noderunner S/I (NE2000 clone, the one that comes with
lantastic
So, the question is : is the Debian Organisation dead ?
You wouldn't ask that if you had _my_ mailbox :-) There must have
been 20 or 30 debian-devel messages today. I couldn't kill it if I
tried.
I fixed a subscribe bug yesterday. Perhaps it had bit you.
Please send a message with only the word
NCR SCSI 53c810
You need a special boot floppy for the 53c810. It's at
ftp://sgk.phast.umass.edu/pub/boot1440.bin.gz .
If you continue to have problems, get into the shell and run lsmod and
cat /proc/filesystems. Both should list the ISO driver.
Bruce
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Does anyone know the performance cost of modules?
They use a bit more locked-down RAM in the kernel than non-modular
drivers, however not generally a significant amount. Execution speed
should not be different. The thing you might be noticing is the delay
for run-time loading a module (via
I don't read French, but I think this says the dpkg manual and my installation
document are available in French under the following URL. I checked the URL
and yes, that's what it looks like.
So Bruce is Bruces in French, I guess.
Thanks
Bruce Perens
From: Joel Bernier [EMAIL
HTTP servers react by sending a REDIRECT message to the name with
a slash appended if the user gives the name without a slash. I don't know
why Apache wouldn't do this.
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can be used for what it was intended for:
insuring source-level compatibility across multiple software platforms.
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Don't you have to put entries starting with + characters at the end of your
hosts, passwd, group, etc., files before NIS will be used to look stuff up?
Just guessing...
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Please write to Klee [EMAIL PROTECTED]. He's committed to take on the package,
but I suspect he could use some help with running tests and submitting bug
reports on the results of the tests.
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here, but
I don't have the slightest idea how to use them (and I'm color-blind).
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I run the output of mkisofs to a raw disk partition. That mounts just fine.
It's a bit faster to access when writing the CD, too, as all of the blocks
are contiguous.
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As Debian project leader I am already too far overworked to take on
any more.
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, which is another way of
saying don't wait for me to do anything.
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I don't know anything about the XPG4 test suite. Is it available to us?
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the CMOS clock it sets
the year to somewhere in the 21st century and the rest of the time
information is all screwed up as well. What needs to change to make this
utility work properly?
Thanks,
Ken Rea
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Please let me know if you have any idea on how to get C-A-Del
to work at the Xlogin prompt under xdm. I have checked the HOWTO's but
to no avail.
Thanks,
Arrigo
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The WWW site moved a day or two ago, and various bugs are popping up and
being squashed. The new WWW site is organized to make regional WWW sites
possible - just mirror and serve. As soon as the bugs with this site are
worked out, we will start adding the regional sites.
Thanks
[wildcard commands in the shell don't work]
If you are using bash or sh, try unset -f -f, yes, it needs two -f
flags. If you are using csh or tcsh, try unset noglob. Then figure
out what set it.
Bruce
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Don't buy a FlashPoint for Linux. If you do buy one, BusLogic will
upgrade it to one of the MultiMaster controllers for a nominal fee. I have
the details. The FlashPoint isn't a good controller for multi-tasking
systems, and there's no Linux driver.
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From: Harald Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My problem is that many mails does NOT have the debian-list in
the To: field, and filter %$# with Cc:.. oh well.. just
a couple of hundred articles each month =)
Let's not forget that this list is gatewayed to ham radio (packet radio),
where they are not
From: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my root password is ... say toto. when i try to login
with password totoxxx, it works. The xdm login
only compares characters from the begining, to the end of
the password. is it normal ???
It shouldn't be that way for your root password as
The Alpha port is active, and is supported by the
debian-alpha@lists.debian.org mailing list. The 68k port is also active.
The SPARC port doesn't seem to be very active at the moment, this will
no doubt change once we have _one_ port released.
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I got a storm of rejected postings due to the anti-spam feature, and have
turned it off for good. Sorry if yours was one of the bounced messages.
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Sigh.
I unsubscribed him manually. I am looking at why the headers are broken.
I think I fixed the -REQUEST problem yesterday, I am checking that.
Bruce
The Debian mailing lists should be working better now. The headers are
back. Sorry about that. It put a lot of stuff in _my_ main mail inbox,
too.
I tested auto-unsubscribe, and it works. Instructions at the bottom of
each message remind people how to unsubscribe.
For procmail users, I prefer
Bruce Perens
to re-add people to debian-devel, etc.
Once this change is completed, all 100 Debian maintainers will be able
to control the mailing list, so there should be no more problems with
the prolonged absence of the list manager.
Thanks
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For now, if you are using the Bourne shell, use
TERM=linux
export TERM
or for the C-shell, use
setenv TERM linux
This is where my memory gets foggy. Some security package called lshell or
something similar messes up the shell environment. The fix is to deinstall
the
We recently decided to keep the master copy of the _entire_ WWW site on
master.debian.org, rather than just a portion of it as previously. This
meant that it would become very much larger. Rather than grow the mirror
sites 300 MB, we moved it to its own separate directory. If you wish to
mirror
the package for their preferred editor and install
it. Likewise, there is a man package on the FTP archive as well.
The base system is supposed to be just enough to support installing
the packages you choose.
Thanks
Bruce Perens
Susan:
the manpages (in English, German (man-NNN-de), and Spanish (man-NNN-es)).
I think some Italian language man pages have also recently been uploaded.
I communicated with the maintainer last week. They are probably in
unstable or the Incoming directory.
Thanks
Bruce
.
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Bruce Perens
If you buy a Debian CD, it may not come with 2.0.20 . However, you will
be able to download a package from our FTP site and upgrade your system
to 2.0.20 . It should be about 2MB for the binary kernel package, 5MB
for the full kernel source. Installing a package takes a one-line shell
command.
Bruce,
We are currently moving the list server to another site. The move should
take place in a few days - all of the pieces are working but I am still
testing them. I will enable digests when that is done.
Thanks
Bruce
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks. After which nothing will
install.
Am I right in assuming that this is an upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1 ?
I
From: Mikko Suonio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting Dynamic Drive Overlay
Press spacebar to boot from diskette...
ERROR: Incompatible BIOS Translation Detected.
Refer to your Ontrack documentation for more information.
Insert boot ...
It seems to be a hardware problem. Or?
You are using Ontrack
There is a Disable source routes prompt when configuring the kernel
(with make menuconfig or make config). You are free to enable it
when building your own kernel.
I'd like to hear a good explanation of what the security problem is,
and why anyone would want to use source routes.
Thanks
I think we've slipped a month, maybe a bit more. Sorry. Blame me - I have been
busy moving into a new home (we get posession on Monday), etc.
Thanks
Bruce
The documentation on how to make a Debian package is in the package
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.3.14.deb .
(The package version number will soon change, and the package may split
into base/dpkg* and devel/dpkg-dev* in the near future.)
Install that package, and
I don't think we have a package with the Logo programming language.
It's a good teaching language, and there are a few free ones around,
I think. Such a package would be welcome.
Regarding the Debian Logotype: We still can't use the baby GNU - I'd
like to reserve that for FSF's own product. I've
but I get lots of
warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/uncompress-./bin/gunzip: File
exists
Dump is probably complaining that it can't create a symbolic link because
the symbolic link already exists. It probably always archives symbolic
links, whether they have been recently created or not.
Did you see any error messages on the floppy I/O?
I've seen the floppy driver fail in several cases. I have a Pentium 120
laptop here in which the floppy works when cold, not when warm. Windows
95 runs that floppy just fine.
The fix is probably to tune the floppy timing parameters automaticaly
Me:
It's complaining that it can't find the interpreter for the
pre-installation script in the perl package.
From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which interpreter? When I run dpkg -I on the perl package I see only
#!/bin/sh scripts. And if it's missing (whatever it is) then what should
I
From: Jean Orloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add
rm -rf /
or anything of this sort in a postinst script.
I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against
such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce
The unresolved symbols messages are harmless (unless you want to use
nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel).
20 minutes, huh? You did create and activate your swap partition,
didn't you?
You can consider your installation successful.
Bruce
[Trying to find which major-10 device he's opening]
sim:~# ls /dev | grep 10,
Oops. Make that
ls -l /dev | grep 10,
Bruce
We are in the process of moving the mailing list from its site in Sweden
back to the U.S. The current list manager is so swamped with work that
he doesn't answer my mail.
Thanks
Bruce
into
a new home, so please be patient if it takes me a few days to get this
done.
Thanks
Bruce Perens
From: Jason K. Keimig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
The unresolved symbols messages are harmless (unless you want to use
nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel).
The problem here is if you _need_ nfs for mounting disks with the buzz
From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In order to test a local copy of buzz-fixed before burning it on a
CD-ROM, we tried to run dpkg --root=... --unpack, just to see if the
files aren't corrupted.
[...]
Selecting previously deselected package perl.
Unpacking perl (from
From: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Rosenberg Yigal wrote:
to remind you the file are :
1) base12-4.bin
2) base14-3.bin
You can't mix base12 with base14 images. Base12 are for 1.2 meg 5 1/4
floppies and base14 are for 1.4 meg 3 1/2 floppies. You should be
building
From: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10
You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
it. Do this command:
ls /dev |grep 10,
and
[Why do I have gettys running on tty1 through tty6? I only have 2 serial ports]
These are virtual consoles using your VGA card. Push LeftAlt-F2 on your console
(I think it's Control-LeftAlt-F2 or Shift-LeftAlt-F2 if you are running X) and
you will be on tty2. And so on for Alt-F3, through Alt-F6.
You may be giving the module the wrong argument (for that version, at least).
Try modprobe cdu31 cdu31a=0x340,5 . Also, add ,PAS to that if you are using
the CD connector on a Pro Audio Spectrum card.
Thanks
Bruce
Tell me where the source for scilab is, and I will remove its termcap
dependence. I'm a reasonably competent ncurses programmer.
Supporting two terminal management mechanisms would not be a good idea.
Bruce
I choose CDU-31-A as CD drive module and tried to install it with the
parameters 0x340,5.
Oh darn. I gave the wrong advice.
Try:
modprobe cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
If you use modconf (the module configuration menu) use the arguments
cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
Is there a compressed filesystem in a file somewhere (I already have
a kernel) where I can just do:
loadlin kernel initrd=image.gz root=/dev/ramdisk
and start installing?
I am working on this for Debian 1.2 . Currently, you have to go through
the 5-floppy thing as detailed in my
[What do the dpkg --smallmem and --largemem flags do?]
On a 4MB system, dpkg's in-RAM database is larger than your physical
RAM. Thus, you use virtual memory for much of this database.
Unfortunately, dpkg has poor locality-of-reference when accessing
this database, so most of its execution time
[User is getting a too many processes error]
I am using tcsh for a shell, and when I run the limit command, I get
maxproc 30. This seems a bit low. Try becoming root, and in csh or
tcsh running limit maxproc 100, and see if you can actually run enough
processes.
This number is set to 256 by the
First, I switched to a
BusLogic Flashpoint; this was not detected though I typed linux
buslogic=[iobase] at the boot: prompt as directed.
See the special notice for FlashPoint owners with Linux systems at the end
of this message.
TMC-8xx/TMC-950 options: ARBITRATE SLOW_HANDSHAKE FAST32
This
[Question about how to neatly change the eepro driver CSR address]
If it's a module, try modprobe eepro io=0x230. If that works, add it
to /etc/conf.modules . Otherwise, just add 0x230 to eepro_portlist.
Bruce
[installation of gcc fails due to binutils dependency that dselect should
have taken care of]
I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of
1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a
later system than 1.1.4?
Thanks
Bruce
emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface
so u can compile emacs with out graphic-x interface
Generally, if there is an option to compile a program with an X interface
as well as its text interface, we do so for Debian. This requires _only_
that the (reasonably small) X runtime library be
From: Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over
100 characters
Well, we've beaten this dead horse for long enough.
I think GNU tar will handle over-100-character filenames. There is an
extension to the tar format to handle them.
From: Glenn Bily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or
libcurses.a and just a compiled object file?
If I had my druthers I'd clean lots of stuff like that up.
The task is a lot more complicated than that, because you
are working with other
The boot-floppies package contains all scripts used to build boot floppies.
What's wrong with base14-3.bin ? It's been on the FTP site for at least
a month with no other complaint.
Thanks
Bruce
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If you are curious, this is a PPP configuration script we've been working
on for Debian 1.2 . Rich is going to Japan and dumped it to the list so
it wouldn't get lost.
Bruce
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