Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome

2008-05-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 09:29:39PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/13/08 20:21, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 9" bw monitor. I get along just fine with icewm. I'm sure > > But isn't that 9" monitor a VT520? > No. The

Re: bash doubt

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:05:16PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > If you want to do a lot of text manipulation, it may feel more natural > to use Perl (or at least it feels more natural to me). Or Python. Or Ada. Almost anything but sh. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 03:58:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/12/08 09:35, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > > I have a 15" monitor at home running at 1024x768. I find that for most > > Maybe you're a Starving College Student, or maybe things cost more > in India (tariffs on imported Chinese goods

Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 06:20:21AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:05:08PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > Thank you and to all others for their suggestions. I shall try alternate > WMs, but the problem appears to have more to do wit

Re: apt-get question..

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:03:59PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 02:40:45AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > If you want less stuff installed, then you can tell aptitude not to > > install 'recommends', > > If a package is listed as a recommends and you consider it should onl

Re: where did www.debian.org/security/key-rollover/ go?

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:20:55PM +0200, Rody wrote: > > In response to the latest security issue with ssl / ssh, i updated my > packages > with the new fixed versions of ssl. However the steps to regenerate the keys > are not available on: > www.debian.org/security/key-rollover/ After keys a

Re: Where does apt store its arch?

2008-05-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 05:44:50PM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > I've recently installed a 32-bit chroot on a 64-bit system with the > "--arch=i386" flag to debootstrap, but I can't quite figure out how apt > knows that I want to continue downloading i386 debs instead of amd64 > debs. Where is thi

Re: HTMLVIEW to read mutt HTML email from browser

2008-05-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:41:11AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > the benefit to Andrei's method (which I use as well **) is that you > don't have to change windows or wait for a browser to start up (well, > okay, technically you do...). The html just pops up rendered right in > the frame.

Re: Incomplete downloads

2008-05-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:01:33PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I have a slow internet connection, and with large downloads it often happens > that the download sticks before it is complete. > > Does anyone have any experience with this problem, and is there a way to solve > it? And, why does i

Re: /usr busy after aptitude operations?

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:03:26AM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 07:36:34PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > When you mount the filesystem, are all the standard options active or > > do you mount it noatime? I don't know if it matters. &g

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old > virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a > banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener". Why does your crystal ball work as a mirror?

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:27:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/08 06:57, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannister wrote: > >>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > I'm sure

Re: hostname question

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 03:02:12PM +0800, Pete Kay wrote: > I am currently having 3 servers in the lan which is using dynamic IP > addresses. Each time the router is rebooted, I have to reconfigure all the > db ips and server ips. > > Therefore, I want to assign host name to each machine such as

Re: Strange msgs in syslog

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 08:02:09PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I have just noticed that syslog on my firewall contains > hundreds if not thousands of messages like this. > > Do they indicate an error of some kind? > > If not, how do I turn them off? > > kernel: BANDWIDTH_IN:IN=eth1 OUT= > MAC

Re: fsck.ext3 -yv /dev/sda1 on 1 terabyte partition

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:37:37PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > On 19:19 Sat 10 May , Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 06:58:02PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > > > On 07:24 Fri 09 May , NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > > > > > *

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:15:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/10/08 17:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > >> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > > > >>

Re: /usr busy after aptitude operations?

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:59:09AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-05-10 09:18 +0200, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > > > I know that dpkg takes steps to unlink files without actually deleting > > them during an upgrade, so your suggestion makes some sense, but I'm not > > quite sure why the system w

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/09/08 07:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I use Linux because it is the most > > > stable and secure OS available in my opinion. > > I'm sure the {Free|Open}BSD

Re: network card change

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 08:34:31PM +0200, Kum Gabor wrote: > On Saturday 10 May 2008 12:23, thveillon.debian wrote: > > Kum Gabor a ??crit : > > > I need a little help with setting up a new network card: > > > I changed mainboard in my computer, and I have new integrated network > > > card, works w

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:02:24PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I just looked at an OS-X machine for the first time. It costs about > >> four times what a comparable machine that I build myself would cost. > > > > But it's more polished than GNOME or KD

Re: fsck.ext3 -yv /dev/sda1 on 1 terabyte partition

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 06:58:02PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > On 07:24 Fri 09 May , NN_il_Confusionario wrote: > > > * From: "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Does anyone know how much memory fsck needs to check a large filesystem? >

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 11:06:39PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/5/9 Jordi Guti??rrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux. > > > > Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give bac

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote: > > Real freedom = BSD. > > The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place. How do you figure? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: Which distro for workstations?

2008-05-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 02:31:24PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Douglas, > I am using NetBSD since ages (longer then Debian) and I can confirm, if > someone need only a BASIC Workstation, she/he could go with ANY BSD > derivates but there is only a problem with hardware support w

Re: users manager

2008-05-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 03:30:32AM -0700, rihab84 wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is my problem. > > I installed my server debian for a distribution network windows and I find > not a good explanation for the management of accounts utilistauers on the > windows. > > how to create accounts to c

Re: Newbie Basic Networking. Using Hostnames

2008-05-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +, Oscar Corte wrote: > > I recently installed Debian at two home PC?s. Both are connected to an > ADSL modem through which Internet is accessed. > > All network configurations were made by Debian at installation time. > I?m able to ping each machine from e

Re: fsck.ext3 -yv /dev/sda1 on 1 terabyte partition. very slow. how to tell what is happening?

2008-05-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
You say its very slow. Does anyone know how much memory fsck needs to check a large filesystem? Does it take more memory for a larger fs in a linear fashion? E.g. OpenBSD needs 1 MB per 1 GB fs size to fsck. If the box has less memory than this, fsck hits swap and really slows down. Is this 1 T

Re: Debian + LVM + RAID1

2008-05-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 07:32:13PM +0200, Ivan Glushkov wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Ivan Glushkov wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I installed Debian on top of LVM and software RAID1 following this: > >> > >> http://dev.jerryweb.org/raid/ > >> > >> > >> Everything is fine except that I cannot boo

Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 09:17:53PM -0500, Kevin Buhr wrote: > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > wrong. Lang=C. I don't have any locales installed. This is regular > > stock VT (no fonts, etc). > > Well, let's put it this way. Cre

Re: USB-pendrive boot?

2008-05-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 11:18:17AM -0400, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: > > I just bought a new HP-DV6700z notebook. > It does not have the option to boot from > (bootable pen-drive). The USB boot options are > - USB floppy > - USB Diskette on key > > The desktop is able to boot from the pen-drive. Deb

Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 05:47:36PM -0500, Kevin Buhr wrote: > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What gets me is when a man page is written in english and "'" gets > > translated as "?", as in can?t or "&#x

Re: Cannot partition a hard drive with the Etch installer

2008-05-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:34:07PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > Its too soon to finish. You have marked for creating the LVs, and have > > labled them, but you still much choose each one (move curser, hit enter) > > and select "use as" and select a filesystem type, a filesystem lable, a > > mount

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 06:08:47PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:33:19PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > ?(if so how) > > >

Re: Cannot partition a hard drive with the Etch installer

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:40:01PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:52:11PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > [snip] > > Can I suggest 2 things > 1 make a bigger boot partition (i typically make it 500M - the cost of > drives make this easy, plus it gives you room to move) But /boot

Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:12:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > $ mutt -v > > > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01) > > > > Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, a

Re: Need Desperate Help Installing Debian-Builder

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:33:31PM +0500, Yassir Saeed wrote: > I am trying to get my hands dirty with linux as a MS(CS) Advanced > Operation system Final Project. So far i am going fine enough, but i > am having a problem installing debian-builder package > > i tried to install it from Aptitude

Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:29:55AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Also while we are at it, any suggestions on what I can use > > in place of gasoline in my car :)? > > Of all the fuels that are liquid at room temperature (and thus > easily transportable and storable without special equipment) > g

Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2: timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE, > stat=0x440 > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct > 0x7fff SErr 0x0 action 0x0 > May 5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: CPB resp_fl

Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 08:34:56AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > getent hosts ftp.us.debian.org > > getent hosts security.debian.org > > getent hosts www.google.com > > getent hosts www.wikipedia.org > > Those return the expected results! > > The problem seems to be specific to apt-get an

Re: Bugs in latest upgrade for Debian etch

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 04:01:42PM +0100, Lesley Binks wrote: > I just did an 'apt-get upgrade -s' and found these updates were required > Preparing to replace cpio 2.6-18 (using .../cpio_2.6-18.1+etch1_i386.deb) ... > Unpacking replacement cpio ... > Setting up cpio (2.6-18.1+etch1) ... > Errn

Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:58:25AM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > I tend to print out a lot of documentation on the software for > projects that I work on. Therefore I go through alot of laserjet > cartidges on my postscript compatible hp laserjet 1200 printer. > > My latest cartridge just needs to

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:10:00PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Sun May 4 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > For her password only, couldn't you use one of those low-security thumb > > readers or a USB key instead of a password? > > she has a USB stick.. how

Re: usb to serial

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0100, Joe wrote: > So there's no way at all to predict whether a particular piece of > equipment, or particular software, will work with any or all USB-serial > ports. Probably it will, but the only way to be sure is to try it. USB/serial adapters are a conv

Re: Cannot partition a hard drive with the Etch installer

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:59:07PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > LVM VG SOL, LV var - 3.2 gB Linux Device Mapper > #1 3.2 gB > SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 250.1 gB ATA WDC WD2500AAJS.0 > #1 primary 82.2 mB B F ext3 /boot > #2 primary 250.0 gB K lvm > > Undo changes to the partitions. >

Re: usb to serial

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:30:10PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:20:23PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: > > On Sun, 4 May 2008, Celejar wrote: Serious typo: > I used-to-would-have said that any computer store should have a 9-pin > serial gender-chang

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 06:37:40AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/04/08 06:32, Paul Cartwright wrote: > > On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world who can > >> overcome their "fear" of the SBSOD. Right??? > > > > my wife doesn't like typi

Re: usb to serial

2008-05-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:20:23PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2008, Celejar wrote: > I found this: > http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-to-RS232-Serial-DB9-9-Pin-Cable-Adapter-Converter_W0QQitemZ140230142593QQihZ004QQcategoryZ41995QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Will this work fo

Re: HELP - Can't boot - I/O error reading swsusp.image

2008-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 05:23:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Help! I rebooted my Etch server (was not having problems prior), and > it stops early with: > > Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount . . . > kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/hda2) = hda2 (3,2) > kinit: trying to resume from /dev/hda2

Re: How and where do i remove old kernel images to make space for new ones :o)

2008-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:40:25PM -0700, Mr Smiley wrote: > I'm doing my daily apt-get update and updating my > kernal-image is reporting the following. [snip] > No space left on device > > > df -alh says > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda5 250M

Re: Which distro for workstations?

2008-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 11:24:39AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > Updating Testing workstations has proved to be much more > time-consuming than expected. > Unfortunately, we only have one workstation that can run > Stable. Some need Testing and most need a combination > We could (a) continue using

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > In this configuration, X does *not* start on boot. The wife and > daughter must log in at the Scary Black Screen Of Doom. Is __that__ what people mean by getting a Black Screen? I thought they meant they got a totally blank black s

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:18:25AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Fri May 2 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > I'm in the middle of a movie conversion using ffmpeg and I am getting: > top - 08:17:17 up 19:26, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 1.36, 1.45 > Tasks: 174 total,

Re: virtual text consoles gone

2008-05-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 04:27:10PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > On 2-May-08, at 4:06 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:26:02 -0400, hendrik wrote: > >>On my AMD64 etch system, cntl-alt-F1 has stopped giving me a text > >>console a month or two ago. > > >Today the vertual text consol

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 11:03:58AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Fri May 2 2008, andy wrote: > > Cheers Mike (& everyone else who has contributed). I downloaded OpenBox > > and am running it within Gnome after rebooting. I would say that Xfce4 > > has some very serious memory holes at present

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:59:16AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Absolutely true. However, an oversight in creation (which is eternal and > constant) is providing VT's which each videocard. This causes a > difficulty for using startx for any user except the first one. Who needs a video card

Re: What can I do with an unloaded partitioned data set on Linux?

2008-05-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 02:34:14AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, 01 May 2008 21:11:21 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Well, Debian has a -360 list, just as it has an -amd64 list. Don't the > > -360 people lurk here with the rest of us mere mortals? > > I&

Re: What can I do with an unloaded partitioned data set on Linux?

2008-05-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 08:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/01/08 10:50, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I am the proud owner of several unloaded partitioned data sets, dating > > back to my days on OS/360 and OS/370. > > > > Does anyone have any code I could use to decode these? I don't mean t

Re: BNX2 driver needs to block during boot

2008-05-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 04:42:36PM -0700, Mike Ely wrote: > I've got a newish X-series server running Etch that has a Broadcom NIC > using the BNX2 driver, all set up statically in interfaces (and I've > commented out the "allow-hotplug" line for that interface). [snip] > What I really need is for

Re: What can I do with an unloaded partitioned data set on Linux?

2008-05-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 03:50:09PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I am the proud owner of several unloaded partitioned data sets, dating > back to my days on OS/360 and OS/370. > > Does anyone have any code I could use to decode these? I don't mean the > EBCDIC-to-ASCII (or to UTF-8) conversion -

Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 10:29:59PM +0100, andy wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >On 05/01/08 15:43, andy wrote: > > > >>Of 2863MB of SWAP, some 1881MB are being used. This is a capture of top: > >[snip] >> > >>How can I clear out SWAP so that it does not retain redundant memory > >>allocated pages?

Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 06:22:16PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > CF cards are sold everywhere. You want the long-life versions. Finding > adapters may be a little harder, but mail-order is probably suitable. > The internet is your friend here. This was a good idea, I wish I ahd > thought o

Re: Backup requirement

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:55:04PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: > Old laptop, for personal use, running Debian Etch. I intend to backup every > month to DVD via my external DVD writer, and to leave copies with friends. > > I want encryption. I use LUKS, but only for my home partition. Then yo

Re: Force process to swap?

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:28:53PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/29/08 22:04, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:06:25AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/24/08 10:09, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>>> On

Re: "Nokia 6120 classic" and Internet connection with laptop

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 02:42:35PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I have had Etch on my IBM ThinkPad 570 and use my "Nokia 6120 classic" > for the Internet connection via O2 (Germany). Now after an upgrade it > is not more working and my config was wiped out... (I even do not know, > what h

Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 04:22:16PM +0800, paragasu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:41:45PM +0800, paragasu wrote: > > > Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it secon

Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 08:00:58PM +0100, peter green wrote: > For potato I doubt you have much hope except for the last point release > (which is availible on archive.debian.org). I have one CD (CD1?) of potato (IIRC 2.2r2) that came with my Debian GNU/Linux Bible. If that is of any help, I c

Re: OT (slightly) swap limits

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 05:13:28PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > For an enterprise quality server where reliability matters I fully > agree. Yes. You want twice your ram. But you also want to set > vm.overcommit_memory=2 for reliability. > By default Linux will overcommit memory allocation. Th

Re: OT (slightly) swap limits

2008-04-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:00:51PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 04:45:05PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > > Being in an interview loop looking for employment, I find I am asked > > questions I never considered, for example: How much is enough swap? > > > > Re

Re: f/oss routing solution

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:23:33AM -0700, Rogelio wrote: > I'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list > recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all my > needs, but I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say, > class C set

Re: Force process to swap?

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:06:25AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/24/08 10:09, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/24/08 01:34, Rich Healey wrote: > > > An improvement to swapping: > > > > http://ck.wikia.com/wiki/SwapPrefetch > > Is this in the mainline? > > > http://e

Re: Help - /usr not mounting!

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:16:36AM +, Peter Tynan wrote: > I'm currently operating from a live CD as my /usr partition is > refusing to mount at boot. > > fsck is not working - output below. > > # fsck -r /dev/hda5 > fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) > fsck.jfs version 1.1.10, 19-Oct-2005 > processing

Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:41:45PM +0800, paragasu wrote: > Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand because > my bios only > support 2GB. That hard disk is quite rare nowadays. And if it dies, now > might be the right > time for the hard disk but not the right time for

Re: Question on setting up NFS

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:48:32AM +1000, Owen Townend wrote: > On 22/04/2008, Pete Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Googling a little finds others that have had the same issue and resolved > it inexplicably by reinstalling nfs-common. I'll throw out this suggestion since I've sometimes got ca

Re: Automounting nfs shares

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:39:03PM +0100, John Talbut wrote: > I have a small home network with nfs set up so that the computers can share > files. Commonly only one of the computers is running, particularly at > first. I would like the running computer(s) to automount the nfs shares > from th

Re: Mount problem

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 01:39:51PM +0200, Asuka Langley wrote: > I have a big problem.. to be honest this problem belongs to a friend of > mine, just he can't speak english, and he is blind, so it's a bit difficult. > So..the problem > > He have this line in his fstab: > /dev/sdb1 /media/disk2 ext

Re: badblock can not be detected

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 02:20:48PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh dear, that's quite a bad news. > that's what I have encountered. when I heard the noise of hard drive reset, > and checked the dmesg to make sure about it, I reformatted the hard drive, > then copy my data in again, it worked

Re: [OT] Naming Schemes (was: Laptop with Linux preinstalled)

2008-04-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:12:16PM -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Adrian Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19/04/2008, Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Names remain the same over different hardware - less work. For me it > > is the data it holds or t

Re: moving /usr, /var, and /etc

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:24:59AM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: > I would suggest that you do all this in single user mode, to begin with. Debian's single-user mode ends up with everything mounted. It is safer to boot with a kernel command line of init=/bin/sh which bypasses all the init scripts (an

Re: Support for VESA Textmode 132x60

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 08:17:32AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Luis Ariel Lecca wrote: > >On 04/16/08 11:15, Joey Schulze wrote: > >> I'm seeking information on modern graphic cards (PCI, PCIe) that > >> support VESA BIOS mode 0x010C, a special text mode that works with > >> 132x60

Re: Flickering mouse pointer (nvidia-glx, Etch, amd64)

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 04:29:34PM -0400, Martin Breguet wrote: > I have a Nvidia GeForce 7300. > > On a Lenny box, it works "out of the box". On an Etch box, it installs with > Vesa, and once you enable contrib & non-free in the sources.list, you can > install either "nv" or "nvidia-glx". > > I

Re: Forcing specific IP address with DHCP

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:07:25PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > I'd do that, and add an additional name server or two (like OpenDNS, > or your ISP's competition's name server) to the list, on the off > chance they do get changed.I don't know your ISP, but mine has > used the same three I

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: > On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: > I presume you have iceweasel in an i386 chroot since there's no > working flash for the 64 bit? Th

Re: JFS / Unsupported file systems

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:16:12PM -0500, Hose wrote: > On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:49 PM, Chris Walters wrote: > I have to agree - I've been using a combo of reiser and jfs for the > past 5 years as different parts of production systems, and I find both > to be fairly reliable, and much less annoying

Re: fonts for certificates, preferable open source but free will do

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 01:09:00PM -0400, H.S. wrote: > I am looking for fonts to make a bunch of certificates. I think these > are called Calligraphic or Gothic fonts? Any good resource for these? > > So far, I have found Isabella that is something like what I am looking for: > {tmp}$> apt-cache

Re: Firewall froth..

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:42:54PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote: > where the list line was to filter out the most frequent messages, but > I am not really sure what, if any, rejected connections/packets I > should be looking out for, and what should just be ignored... > > Perhaps I should redirect

Re: Question about how "aptitude search" is used

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:13:30AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > One of the things I'd like to implement in an upcoming aptitude > release (probably post-lenny, likely next year) is a significant > overhaul of the UI to the search engine; that is, how searches are > entered and carried out from

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:48:36AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > and one more thought. Could it be possible to write a video driver > that is essentially a dummy? A blind user does need X to actually draw > on the screen (unless they're working with a sighted assistant). It > only needs X

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: > Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, > reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps > that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in /home/user will > be compatible with the

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:41:05PM -0700, David Fox wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've looked thru "man apt.conf", "man apt_preferences" and "man > > apt-get", but don't see any way to disable this. > > I use aptitude exclusively, and I've n

Re: JFS

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 07:26:15AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > I remember reading in the list that JFS was a dying FS, because IBM > wasn't maintaining it full time. And that it might disappear from the > kernel soon. > > Any one still using it. I was actually thinking of using it for my /tmp > di

Re: sidux

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:09:26PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > Contrast that with sid, bug fixes happen fast. It seems, in my limited > experience, that serious bugs that get caught in sid rapidly > disappear, sometimes within hours. Sure there's more churn and > potentially more opport

Re: etch installation on Compaq Proliant ML350 fails

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 05:46:20PM +0200, Fabrizio Lippolis wrote: > I am trying to install Debian etch on a Compaq Proliant ML350. During > the installation process some hardware is recognized, the network card > too, and gets an IP address from the DHCP server. Before partitioning, a > message

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote: > comix - The version in Testing had security problems, so it was > removed automatically (however, the insecure version stayed in > Unstable). Almost a month later a fixed version was uploaded to stable > and 10 days later it moved to Testin

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On 14-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >> Perhaps debian should have an accessible install CD in addition to all > >> the different DTE install CDs. E.g. one where sound works on mo

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:55:47PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote: > On 14/04/2008, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > grml has xwindows components too provided you can figure out how to get them > > installed and talking. Since I have grml on a laptop and myself am totally > > blind that's th

Re: Read-only root (/) except /etc

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:11:52AM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:04:31 -0400 > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 03:12:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > However, consider: as thi

Re: Man pages specification ?

2008-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:34:39AM +0200, Sylvain wrote: > I haven't seen section 7 for man which give all specifications. I wonder if its in manpages-dev? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Read-only root (/) except /etc

2008-04-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:32:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote: > n Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:04:31PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 03:12:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I don't *need* things read-only. I would just rather not

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:19:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > F

Re: Read-only root (/) except /etc

2008-04-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 03:12:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't *need* things read-only. I would just rather not *need* to > have my root filesystem read write. > > I gave some reasons above for why I would like to be able to crontrol > if and when the root filesystem is subject t

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