Re: Indic scripts in terminal

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:58:49PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: My 'LANG' is 'ta_IN.UTF-8'. I am on an up-to-date Debian Testing computer. I am using Latin script, and Tamil script in Gnome Terminal. The display gets slightly garbled around the Tamil text. I guess that this is because

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 01:52:15PM -0700, pedxing wrote: I would like to configure things so that, for instance, when I (ok, actually my wife) use konqueror to copy songs to my mp3 player, when the copy dialog says 100%, I can immediately unmount the device without having to wait

Re: LVM and RAID

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 02:30:37PM +0200, Bruno Costacurta wrote: On Wednesday 16 May 2007 22:52:13 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 02:29:10PM +0200, Bruno Costacurta wrote: I intend to install LVM and RAID-1 on a two disks system. Is there any order or procedure to

Re: Bloat in desktop environments

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 07:31:16PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: Memory requirements of desktop environments, from http://linuxreviews.org/software/desktops/: * XFCE 4: 128 MB * Gnome 2: 384 MB * KDE 3:512 MB Gnome, and KDE are slow, and resource-hungry. Why not make something

Re: bzip2 gzip binaries empty after usage

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:09:56PM -0700, Jay Wilton wrote: Hello, I have a new build of debian etch 4.0. When I try to unpack a tar.bz2 file it fails silently. ala tar jxvf example.tar.bz2 , just fails with no error. file /bin/bzip2 /bin/bzip2: empty I reinstall with a: apt-get

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:00:57AM -0400, Brendan wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/15/07 15:52, pedxing wrote: I would like to configure things so that, for instance, when I (ok, actually my wife) use konqueror to copy songs to my mp3 player, when the copy dialog

Re: Preventing delayed USB writes

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:55:18PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 09:01:57PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/15/07 20:37, H.S. wrote: pedxing wrote: Lenny AMD64. When I write to a USB device (stick or mp3 player), I notice that the writes appear to happen

Etch Xorg memory leak?

2007-05-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I'm having trouble with Xorg under Etch i386 and similar annoyance under amd64. Over time, xorg takes up more and more memory. On my i386, I only have 64 MB of ram so I can only run X for about 45 minutes before the system thrashes. Eventually, Xorg dies but doesn't release the screen. If I

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:03:41AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 14:27 +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: I'm getting terrible DNS lookup performance on my Debian Etch system. Interestingly, if I repeat

Re: Etch installation hangs at net-drivers on Portege 3020

2007-05-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:26:09AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hi, all: I'm trying to install Etch on an old Portege 3020 (which had Woody on it at one point). The boot and root disks work just fine, but then it just hangs when I get to the net-drivers-1 disk. It either hangs immediately

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:56:41PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: On 5/11/07, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:42:31PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: Even though I do not need to install X on my new Etch console system, I would like to know how do you install X, is there some new

Re: to lvm or not to lvm?

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:54:41AM +0300, Yuriy Padlyak wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 12:33:44PM +0300, Yuriy Padlyak wrote: Thank you for your reply. Looks like you're suggesting installation, but I have Etch 4.0 installed already. Wondering if it's possible

fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I'm trying out different window managers and I'm now on fluxbox. The documentation seems sparce. What is the slit and what is it for? I only see the bar at the bottom center. Thanks, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: exporting a variable to global shells

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:53:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 08:24, Jan-Florian Hilgenberg wrote: Hi guy's, first I am german, so ignore my bad english please ;-) i want to get a variable out of a child shell in it parent shell, the sense is, that I want to use the

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:18:54PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:42:50 +0100 Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:51:57 +0530 Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, GNOME and XFCE are desktop environments, as opposed to window managers.

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:13:38AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:56:41PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: On 5/11/07, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:42:31PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: Even though I

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:42:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying out different window managers and I'm now on fluxbox. The documentation seems sparce. What is the slit and what is it for? I only see the bar at the bottom

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:37:07PM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: On 5/10/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: I'm getting terrible DNS lookup performance on my Debian Etch system. I've installed the Etch - Official

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:32:53PM +, Tyler Smith wrote: On 2007-05-11, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:42:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying out different window managers and I'm

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:26:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 11:08, Amy Templeton wrote: Seriously, if a business is not accessible to someone, that person is free to patronize a business that is willing to

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:57:29PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:42:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Seriously, if a business is not accessible to someone, that person is free

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:34:18PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:17:04PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: I am a citizen of the country. I have right to employment for which I am qualified. Disabilities must be accomodated by the employer. If you Do you

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:36:42AM +, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:26:17PM -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: On May 11, 6:50 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmm. It's pretty clear on my man page what it is It doesn't give the simple clue that, unlike other wm's, the slit is invisible unless something is attached

Re: dual boot different platforms from the same partitions in a host

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:25:00PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: Hi I would like to dual boot Linux i386 and amd64. My amd64 processor will run either quite happily, but not at the same time. I think perhaps that I need separate /usr partitions, and I hope that at least /home could be

Re: [OT] Screen

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:21:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: You were born 25 years late. You (and I suspect a lot of us) would have proposed. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Screen

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:21:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: I *knew* you weren't a Real Geek I see from another post, she does BibTex too. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:23:27AM +0100, andy wrote: Dear all As a Debian n00b I enthusiastically gorged myself on the wonders and ease of apt-get. Now, having recovered from my initial over-indulgence, like one considers one's post-festive waistline, I am wanting to figure out a way to

Re: Not working.

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:25:08AM +0200, ahdoga wrote: I am also working with this problem. I have a 2wire gateway and it's weird. I was able to use the wireless card in my system to do a netinst. However, once the sys was installed, nothing works. The wireless doesn't work. The n ic

Re: Are volume labels a file-system thing?

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:15:13PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I just discovered that the commands for reading ans setting volume labels have 'e2' in their names, like e2label. Does this mean that I can label my partitions only if I put an ext2 of ext3 file system on them? Or is there some

suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
There are a lot of window managers available (too many to download and test them all over a slow dial up link) and I'm looking for suggestions. Here's what I want: low-resource: box only has 64 MB available. Most of the time, x apps are run via ssh to my main Athlon64 box. Rock

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: I'm getting terrible DNS lookup performance on my Debian Etch system. I've installed the Etch - Official Beta amd64 version. What is an official beta of Etch which is the current Stable? Send us your /etc/apt/souces.list after

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:53:35PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:07:45AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: ('A') flag. Also, adjust the options so that recommends are marked for automatic install. Did you mean not marked? Yes, sorry. Not marked for automatic

Re: hardware freezez and no clue where to start searching

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:06:14AM -0700, AndiSHFR wrote: Linux sv-vmhost02 2.6.18-4-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 11:36:53 CEST 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux The machine seems to freeze every n seconds for some seconds. It can be easily seen when doing disk io. The date output shows that the dd did

Re: getting a pdf document to print

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:00:57PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:46 +0100, andy wrote: Hi all I have received a multipage pdf document that has been locked so it cannot be printed. I would like to be able to print this document so that I can read it on the road.

Re: converting debian-AMD64 to debian-i386

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:55:07PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to convert a Debian-AMD64 system to Debian-i386 without a complete reinstall. I have my server set up to use AMD64, but it seems that the developement on the 64bit

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:12:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:39 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:07:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:15 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400

Re: dual boot different platforms from the same partitions in a host

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:53:32PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:16 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:25:00PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: Did you know that there are 32-bit libs available to run most 32-bit apps under amd64? Perhaps

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:00:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [Andrew, in my mutt I hit L to reply to the list, but if you're the author

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:11:25PM -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: On May 10, 12:10 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of window managers available (too many to download and test them all over a slow dial up link) and I'm looking for suggestions. Fluxbox

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 18:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] And if you say make a SSD, then I say that it's still slower than RAM because disk channel bandwidth is still *much* slower than memory bandwidth. Better to spend that money

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:55:25PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of information I can give people/my college

Re: swap

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:18:29PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:42:43PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:46:35AM +0100, andy wrote: I tried setting ulimit -v to 98304 and it did keep Xorg from thrashing the system, it would

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:40:17AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There are those of us who believe that claims of discrimination became trite many years ago. I'm inclined to disagree; it is more subtle now, but it still exists. Do some reading on the concepts of privilege

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:00:58AM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: bdeferme wrote: Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days but moved over to the FreeBSD world for the last few years. I recently installed Testing (Lenny) and

Re: AMD 64 DVD Installer for Debian Lenny Hangs

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:56:41AM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: On 5/6/07, Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 09:31:03PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: I've tried both the DVD installer for AMD 64 and the i386 CD installer for Debian Lenny. The installer

Re: Failed to install: Detect and mount CD-ROM failed

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:11:48AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:54:34AM +0100, Stephen Turner wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Thanks for your reply, Andrew. I don't have much information about the optical drive, but Windows reports that it is:

Re: swap

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [Andrew, in my mutt I hit L to reply to the list, but if you're the author of the post I'm replying to, it sets a cc to reply to you. Is this intentional on your part? It doesn't happen with anyone else. I'll leave the cc in

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:08:33PM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: No wonder I can never figure out what a shell script is trying to do, either way it looks like a cat on a keyboard. Give me python and fortran77 any day. As I don't use python, I have no direct

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:48:14PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 20:33, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] once for as many instances as you like. If I were wanting to create my own NIX distribution, I'd have sh available for compatibility, but all system scripts would be done

Re: TCP Issues (firewire at eth0) how to proceed ...

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 06:24:58PM +, Tim Johnson wrote: Hello: References: Generally: Subject - PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu Specifically: message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disabled the onboard lan chip and put in a standalone ethernet card. Here's two

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:03:19PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:39:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Looking at man 1 hostname, it looks like /etc/hostname is just the short hostname. The FQDN

Re: PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:03:32PM +, Tim Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 08 May 2007 00:31, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Burned and booted ... here's what I saw when I started the install: Debian tells me the following: Primary Network Interface: eth0: firewire (IEEE 1394) ethernet

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:00:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:15:31 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To generalize the problem, given that the software can't be changed, at what point do you start to look at either a bigger single computer or a cluster

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:12:22PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Celejar wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:15:31 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] intelectual exercise; I went from a 486 with 32 MB swap to an Athlon with 1GB in a single bound. That Xorg makes _that_ swap

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:02:41AM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote: aptitude search \!~i~sdoc only lists 4 packages. surely main of sarge has far more than that. I've got many replies, none solved my question. Thanks anyway. I'm java programmer, I'd rather write a program to parse a file in

Re: mutt is the bomb! (LDAP addressbook integration)

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:49:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:12AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 07:48:50PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: 2. more an editor issue, I

Re: vim wrapping [Was: Re: mutt is the bomb! (LDAP addressbook integration)]

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:28:41PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: this is in my .mutt/vimrc file source /etc/vim/vimrc source ~/.vimrc filetype indent on highlight SpellErrors ctermfg=Red cterm=underline term=reverse set

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:33:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 10:28:02 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] In fact, it was poor browser performance (read inability to view some sites) that was the drive to buy my new box. For everything else, my

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:54:58AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty writes: I don't know what's with this site but all of a sudden Xorg starts racking up the memory. X racks up memory because the browser is asking for it. Note this: !-- DW6 -- head !-- Copyright 2005

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:24:24PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16:21, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:00:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:15:31 -0400 Sometimes, just links2, sometimes konq. I ususally use Xfce but have tried

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:45:01AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:40:16AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:03:19PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:39

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of information I can give people/my college that will aid in deterring them from trying to force people to use MS-Office files (by sending them via email and posting them

Re: debian linux-image update

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:53:23PM +0530, Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: Recently some kernel update for debian etch appeared, which I duly installed. In Fedora, when this used to be done, the grub entry would get automatically updated. But here it does not seem to have happened, the entry is the

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:18:41PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:05:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Yes, I have identical /etc/hosts on all boxes (yeah scp). I know about NAT/masq and have shorewall do that. As far as inaccessible domainnames

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:46:35AM +0100, andy wrote: Clicked on our team, and the RAM got hammered again. Big freezeup of gkrellm, then the page was loaded, and free RAM levelled out at 84MB. That means that 110MB of RAM is being used to view the site. There has to something wrong with

Re: Upgrading from Sarge to Etch

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:49:15PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: 1. How can I backup my Debian 3.1 server before upgrading to 4.0? # cat /etc/debian_version 3.1 # uname 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux 2. How can I upgrade a server

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with anybody? Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package on linux? Last time I

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:54:36PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: I think I have something basically wrong with my system. I upgraded from Sarge according to the instructions but I have had all sorts of problems with it. It seems to me that either something got corrupted during the

Re: Well I'm back in business.

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:17:47PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 03:39:20AM +0200, pizzapie_linuxanchovies wrote: permissions. I am thinking of filing my 1st bug report ever for this, if there isn't one already. Bastille has some issues. I used a long time

Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:38:30AM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: On 5/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 07:27:26PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: yes, / on md0 does get fsck'd cleanly, whether in single boot or 'normal' boot. I can get into a root shell w/o any

Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:22:28AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: I was afraid that it would turn out to be something along this line. I guess I will give up and do what I have been thinking about for a couple of weeks. Set up a windows machine and stick it down in my server room. Then I

Re: Random Crashes

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:54:18PM +0200, Gregor wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: So I took of the old 512Mb ram module, because it should be the one with problems, since the crashes happened already when I had only that one. The system still crashed. Just to be sure, I put it on again,

Re: etch in amd64: system freezes

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:47:20PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: I have installed etch in a new AMD64 machine. My problem is the following: after a very little activity in the Gnome desktop, the system freezes (even an open window terminal freezes) and only a hard reboot bring the

Re: swap

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: I've part-time admin'd (contracted) a couple of systems that required 128GB of swap during batch processing middle of the night setups. Primarily because of the inner looping of some of the jobs and the amount of stored info hanging

does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one computer (titan: 192.168.1.1) accessing the network by dial-up modem and providing some services to my network: e.g. dnsmasq, exim4 smarthost, ntp, but nothing to the internet. It also runs shorewall for good measure. Everything works

Re: swap

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:07:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:15 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: Cluster? HA! Bigger Single computer? HA! They have 8 processor machines with 64GB of memory already

Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:46:48AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:22:28AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: What happens if you try Konqueror? Just Konq, not necessarily the whole KDE. Oh yes. Another failed experiment. If I open

Re: PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:48:34AM +, Tim Johnson wrote: I have a background with rh and slack. Am a programmer and prefer the command line. A long-term debian user persuaded me to try ubuntu when I showed an interest in debian. To make a long story short, I've ended up with the kubuntu

Re: Problems with Xorg video

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:29:41PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I seem to have lost my video after moving from xfree86 to xorg. The error reported in my xorg log (after many pages of no errors) - (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100,         i810e,

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:03:49PM +0200, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:33:21 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one computer (titan: 192.168.1.1) accessing the network by dial-up modem and providing

Re: etch dual boot on amd-64 system preparations

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:33:37PM -0700, Dino Vliet wrote: currently I have installed FreeBSD 6 and Ubuntu Breezy on my AMD 64 system. Everything worked fine, but I decided to upgrade my Ubuntu partition. Due to EOL of Breezy, the difficult upgrade method of Ubuntu amd-64, the fact that I

Re: exim4 error?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:56:21PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: I got no reponse at all previously -- perhaps too general a question. Does anyone recognise this set of messages on /var/log/exim4/mainlog: 2007-05-05 13:35:42 1HkJUE-000170-0o ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unrouteable address

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:39:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 05:12:20PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:03:49PM +0200, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:33:21 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Problems with Xorg video

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:52:08PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: On Monday 07 May 2007 14:14, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Why not run Etch? What do I do besides: 1. update sources.list to point to etch 2. apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade Does it work...what are the pitfalls

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 05:01:10PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:03:49PM +0200, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:33:21 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:14:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:58:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:39:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 05:12:20PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon

Re: PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu

2007-05-07 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:23:57PM +, Tim Johnson wrote: I just downloaded netinst.iso. Later, I will burn it and try booting with it. Do I understand that this CD will have the ability to probe eth0 and eth1 (if necessary) and give me feedback before proceeding with the

Re: to lvm or not to lvm?

2007-05-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 12:33:44PM +0300, Yuriy Padlyak wrote: Thank you for your reply. Looks like you're suggesting installation, but I have Etch 4.0 installed already. Wondering if it's possible to put existent /boot on ext3 partition and LVM volume group on RAID1. Or possibly it will be

Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 03:25:02PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: I have just upgraded my sarge system to etch, following exactly the upgrade instructions at http://www.us.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/. now my system does not boot correctly anymore... I'm using RAID1 with two

Re: Fixed fonts in Debian

2007-05-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:44:36PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: I am currently using Etch, and loving it. However, my query is related to monospace fonts in Debian. The release of Debian Etch and Ubuntu Feisty has prompted some of my friends to move from Fedora Core to Debian and Ubuntu.

Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 07:27:26PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: I mounted (read-only) some of the virtual volumes, to see if the data is still there... it seems as if there is some 'offset' on the file system, i.e. when looking at some file it contains stuff that should be in a completely

Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?

2007-05-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:57:17PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Dennis G. Wicks wrote: - I *am* running Iceweasel/FireFox. - These web sites work *on*all*other*systems* I have accessed them from, and have done so for weeks, months, and years. It has to be a problem with Debian, Iceweasel,

Re: AMD 64 DVD Installer for Debian Lenny Hangs

2007-05-05 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 09:51:15AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 09:31:03PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: I've tried both the DVD installer for AMD 64 and the i386 CD installer for Debian Lenny. The installer hangs in the same spot with both media installation

Re: Broken AMD-64-DVD-ISO-image retrieved via bittorrent

2007-05-05 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 05:00:07PM +0200, Andreas Glaeser wrote: After downloading debian-40r0-amd64-DVD-1.iso via bittorrent two days ago, I was unable to write the image to DVD. K3B said, that it was actually not an ISO-image. The md5-sum computed by k3b did not match the one found in the

Re: Can't disable NCQ, /sys/block/sdc/device/queue_depth is readonly

2007-05-05 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 06:58:29PM -0700, Roy Franz wrote: 1) After coming across a simple random seek benchmark, I am finding that my WD raptor 10K drive is giving me about 10 ms seek time, where other raptors benchmarked with the same program are reporting 7.5 - 8.0 ms. This is a fairly

Re: How to boot in to Etch if grub fails to load and deletes NTLDR?

2007-05-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 04:46:27PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: On 5/4/07, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 09:39:57AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: Is there an option I can make a boot CD like the boot floppy option present in RedHat/Fedora systems towards the end of

Re: SATA issues with Albatron KX600S motherboard and debian etch

2007-05-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 02:18:37PM +1200, Simon wrote: We have a Albatron KX600S motherboard with a single IDE 40GB drive (with debian etch installed) and 2 x 200GB SATA (was going to software RAID 1 these). But we cant see /dev/sda or /dev/sdb and get the below in the dmesg. Any

Re: Build X 3.3.6 version under etch

2007-05-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 03:25:34PM +0300, Egor Tur wrote: I try build old version of XFree86 (3.3.6-44 from http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ woody) under current etch. But there are problems with malloc function. For examle: efaxg42d.c When I try sole conflicting types the next

Re: How do I setup printer?

2007-05-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:12:22PM -0400, Ninenineone Efx wrote: It's basic thing but I don't remember how to setup printer. In general user, I can't print any paper. I tried 'lpr' command for test, it gives about permission denied error. I checked the Debian/GNU Linux System Admin's manual.

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