On 1/26/16, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> John Hasler:
>> Adam Wilson writes:
>>> You should be running dist-upgrades in stable. apt-get upgrade only
>>> gets new package versions, leaving out upgrades which require new
>>> packages, old packages to be removed, dependency changes, etc.
>>> dist-upgrade
On 1/26/16, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 26 Jan 2016 at 14:07:42 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
>
>> After carefully considering the warm, supportive, heartfelt posts of
>> support and encouragement in this and the other thread, I decided that
>> maybe testing isn't for me.
&g
On 1/26/16, John Hasler wrote:
> Francis Gerund writes:
>> So I upgraded to unstable.
>
>> Let the breakage begin!
>
>> Uptime: 1:53 . . . and no breakage yet. Jealous? :-)
>
> I've been running Unstable ever since it was invented. You should
> subsc
On 1/26/16, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
>> You do not need dist-upgrade in Stable. The only changes to Stable are
>> new versions of packages already in it.
>
> Brian writes:
>> You are not expecting a Jessie-and a-half, then?
>
>> https://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080726
>
>Installation o
On 1/25/16, John Hasler wrote:
> Francis Gerund writes:
>> sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade
>> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>
>> I presume that's what you meant. Is the answer yes, then? But if so,
>> wouldn't that only have to be done once, followed
e I stand behind my opinion that
upgrading is unnecessarily difficult and error-prone.
Whew! Now that that's out of the way, let me ask:
When (and why would you use full-upgrade, as opposed to dist-upgrade
(and how does aptitude figure into that)? I don't use aptitude, I'm
u
r yes, then? But if so,
wouldn't that only have to be done once, followed by periodically
doing:
sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
???
On 1/25/16, Francis Gerund wrote:
> Hi, Jochen.
>
> 1) You are correct. It should have been:
>
>>Then, I did:
>
>
xercise for the reader . . .
;-)
On 1/25/16, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Francis Gerund:
>>
>> Then, I did:
>>
>> sudo check
>> sudo update
>> sudo upgrade
>> clean
>> autoclean
>> autoremove
>
> What are these supposed to do? I suppose they
l disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] "
BTW, in my earlier proposed changes to /etc/apt/sources.list, I
thought that I had clearly indicated that the jessie-backports lines
were to be "commented out", and thus inactive. I am sorry if there
was any confusion on t
>>
>> -- or, would something else be better?
>>
>
> Something else would be better- not using jessie-backports. If you're
> already using testing, enabling jessie-backports is pointless and will
> put you halfway into FrankenDebian territory. Beware.
>
> I would do something like this:
>
> deb http
Hello . . .
Is this mic on?
Hi,
If I run debian 8 (jessie) stable, and this is my /etc/apt/sources.list :
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.2.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST
Binary-1 20150906-11:09]/ jessie main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessiemain
contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debi
manager considers an alternate login (even the same
actual person, from the same machine) as a different "user". I never
would have thought of that. Thanks to ansgar for the suggestion.
And thanks to all who replied about this!
On 1/18/16, Francis Gerund wrote:
> On 1/18/16, Joe wrote
On 1/18/16, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:04:38 -0500
> Francis Gerund wrote:
>
>> . . . Okay.
>>
>> The problem may be with dhcp, since xfce has no problem getting to the
>> outside world, but openbox refuses to go any further than localhost.
>>
&g
. . . Okay.
The problem may be with dhcp, since xfce has no problem getting to the
outside world, but openbox refuses to go any further than localhost.
So, does dhcp functionality need to be installed and/or set up
separately for openbox?
And if so, how?
Hello!
I have been running Debian 8 64-bit xfce. Networking works fine.
Then I added openbox. So now at the desktop manager screen I can
choose between xfce and openbox. Networking still works fine using
xfce (network-manager).
But if I start up into openbox, or startup into xfce and then log
[re: "Most people who post here subscribe to the list, so they will
receive any response you make to the debian-user list. If you send to the
list and to them, they get two copies of each message."]
Just a note on email addressing:
I was using gmail, with it's built-in interface. Although the
the same way (I don't use XFCE, so I don't know).
BTW, I really think that "blocking" line in the desktop.gufw was
deliberate. I think they knew exactly what they were doing.
Thanks again to all for the help.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Jape Person wrote:
> On 12/0
ue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 December 2015 01:32:39 Jape Person wrote:
> > On 12/08/2015 04:57 PM, Francis Gerund wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I just installed Debian 8.2, 64-bit, Gnome desktop, using the
> > > netinst
Hello!
I just installed Debian 8.2, 64-bit, Gnome desktop, using the netinst.iso.
Used Synaptic to install Gufw (and ufw as dependency). Ufw works fine.
But gufw does not show in the application menu or in the favories menu of
Gnome. The only way to run it seems to be in Gnome terminal (non-log
uot;clean-up". There's quite a bit of
it, but it often feels like it is written "by technicians, for
technicians", and it's not always user friendly.
Thanks again for your time.
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 27 Nov 2015 at 21:16:40 +03
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 26 Nov 2015 at 05:06:49 +, Francis Gerund wrote:
>
> > I just installed debian 8.2 stable, using the live "standard" 64-bit iso.
> > The install was done using wifi, with no problem.
> >
> > Rebo
Hello!
I just installed debian 8.2 stable, using the live "standard" 64-bit iso.
The install was done using wifi, with no problem.
Rebooting, I get a CLI interface (okay, for now), but it did not install
networking (NOT ok)!
ifconfig shows only an "lo" entry.
So, how do I install wifi?
I could
Hi.
I did work with both hinting and sub-pixel order.
Full hinting was the best setting for hinting.
The sub-pixel order did not seem to make any difference.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Francis Gerund wrote:
>
> > And the display doesn't look
Well, it's on a laptop, so there's no (external) data cable involved. And
the resolution seems to be set correctly at maximum, 1366 x 768, IIRC.
And the display doesn't look defective or mis-calibrated, just more like
1995 than 2015. I think it just lame fonts in XFCE, not the physical
display.
Actually, I have been using Debian (off and on), since the 1990's. My
first real GNU/Linux distribution was Debian 2.0 - "Hamm"!
"I wish I could quit you."
- from the movie, Brokeback Mountain
I have dabbled a little with testing before, but mostly stayed with stable,
when I was usin
me - unconfigureable, but looks better.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 07 June 2015 19:38:45 Francis Gerund wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Sunday 07 June 2015 02:54:56 Francis Gerund wrote:
> > >
Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not
happening) with the Devuan project?
It seems to be dead, or at least dying.
I am (more than) starting to think the whole thing was just a sick, sleazy
hoax/disinformation campaign by you-know-who to confuse and disillusion
Well, too late now! Guess I'll just fight with testing, until it breaks.
Or Devuan gets released (Hurry!!)
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 07 June 2015 02:54:56 Francis Gerund wrote:
> > upgrading in place sounds good in theory, but
> > nev
ly to the last poster in the thread (that's you) also. I don't know
why.
Gmail sucks. If it wasn't free . . .
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 06 Jun 2015 at 12:56:38 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> > Francis Gerund wrote:
> >
> > Yes
Hello!
It should be so simple . . .
1) I have a new installation of Debian 8 stable (Jessie).
2) I want to convert it to a pure Debian testing setup, to track testing
indefinitely.
here is my current /etc/apt/sources.list:
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