Re: Viewing an an OpenStreetMap tile offline.

On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 11:52:32AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, is anyone using Gosm or something similar to view OpenStreetMap > tiles offline? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gosm > > The instructions under "Downloading and running" yield > bash: ./gosm: No such file or directory

Re: realpath quoting

On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 08:22:27AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > $ cat read.raku > #!/usr/bin/env raku > my $a = "name with spaces"; > my $b = "name\nwith newline"; > say "file 1: |$a|"; > say "file 2: |$b|"; > > And executing it: > > $ ./read.raku > file 1: |name with spaces| > file 2: |name > wit

Re: realpath quoting

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 10:18:03PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > I am unable to find $'string' in the dash(1) man page (?). As I typically > write "#!/bin/sh" shell scripts, writing such to deal with file names > containing non-printing characters is going to baffle me. Currently, $' quoting

Re: realpath quoting

On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 12:31:13PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > My use case is very simple. Give an argument to a program that expects a > single filename/path. Then you need to use "$1" with quotes when you reference it. Simple! > If you give it an unquoted and unescaped filename it will break

Re: realpath quoting

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 07:11:46PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Perhaps Perl and the module String::ShellQuote ? > > 2024-05-02 18:50:28 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ touch "name with spaces" > > 2024-05-02 18:50:45 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ touch "name with\nnewline" You didn't create a name with a ne

Re: realpath quoting

On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 07:42:20AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/5/24 07:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The spaces without quotes cause problems with subsequent processing. > > Then the subsequent processing has bugs in it. Fix them. > > > > > Ca

Re: realpath quoting

On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 06:59:37AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > I have a need  to get the full path of a file that has spaces in its name to > use as a program argument > > e.g. > > jeremy@client:~$ ls -l name\ with\ spaces > -rw-r--r-- 1 jeremy jeremy 0 May  3 06:51 'name with spaces' > jeremy@

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 09:34:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote: > > > > I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading > > settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead. > > It is a bit strange. Applications should

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Sirius wrote: > zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really* > lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this > means a trip down memory lane and back to configuring CTWM on old Sun 5 > workstations back in the 9

Re: Debian 12.5 i386 sudo returns "Illegal instruction"

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 09:54:17AM -0400, Vic tor wrote: > On a fresh installation of Debian 12.5, i386 I receive "Illegal instruction" > when executing sudo. Is there any way to debug and workaround this; should I > take this to another list as a bug? > > This is on a Soekris net5501 powered by a

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:27:22PM -0700, Fred wrote: > If you type yt-dlp --help you get a large list of options. > yt-dlp --update will get you the very latest version. (Must be root). -U, --updateCheck if updates are available. As yt-dlp

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:26:09PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay - my apology - at > https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/blob/master/ChangeLog > is > > " > dstftw > release 2021.12.17 > > version 2021.12.17 So don't use that. The Debian package youtube-dl is NOT actually youtube-dl any mor

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:31:44PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > The latest version of youtube-dl , makes it too old to try to use now; if > you can get it working with youtube, good luck to you. > > An unmaintained package, that is three years since last updated, for > accessing web sites on the Wor

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:15:17PM -0300, Markos wrote: > The site https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html > > is blocked? Nope. Works for me.

Debian@IBMx3550

Hi there, I got refurb IBM x3550 M3 7944 server and I'm a bit lost. Is there any Linux/Debian software (some gui would be nice) to monitor fan speed, temperatures, voltages, disks.. ? Thanks in advance for any help Greg

Re: tbird troubles

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 02:21:27PM -, Curt wrote: > Have you tried *closing* one of the two windows, *quitting* the > remaining one, and then restarting your bird? In his original message, he claimed that closing one window makes the other one also close. I asked *how* he was closing them, an

Re: tbird troubles

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: > > On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launc

Re: tbird troubles

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the > gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate > workspaces, and both appear to work for some definition of working, but > quitting

Re: config files - newline possible?

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 08:42:20PM +0200, Hans wrote: > in my case it is the config freom from bootcdwrite, which is bootcdwrite.conf. says: This file will be sourced as shell file. So, you may use any valid "shell" (pr

Re: problem with live usb booting

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:30:46PM +, sarath wrote: > dear debian > > I have created live usb with debian-live-12.5.0-amd64-standard.iso using tool > Ventoy-1.0.95. When tried to booting it is ended with command line options. > please help me to the next step It's not clear to me what you m

[Sid] Nouveau: only one monitor after 6.6.15 to 6.7.9 upgrade

0x400 70.08 HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) Any suggestions? Greg

Re: Debian 12.5: pigz 2.6-1 fails with error message (Upstream issue 111)

On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 06:34:43PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 6:24 PM Chung Jonathan wrote: > > > > Dear Franco Martelli, dear Thomas Schmitt, > > > > Sorry for the potential duplication. This mail should now also go to the > > list. > > > > I believe I found the probl

Re: Bookworm: Where are the ImageMagick binaries other than `convert`?

On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 10:06:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 4/1/24 21:37, Christian Gelinek wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have ImageMagick installed, but only the `convert` binary is in my path. > > > > Other binaries like `magick` are not. Where can I find them, > > In Synaptic, if you get the

Re: Debian 11 PHP 7.4 – Mysql 8 - Can’t get Mysqli_connect to work

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 11:49:06AM +0100, Bernard wrote: > Hi to Everyone, > > The text quoted below has already been sent to the list, 2-3 days ago, > someone had replied to it (but the message has been lost, I no longer see it > on the list. I had replied again, which reply disappeared too.) > S

Re: making Debian secure by default

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 03:23:48PM -0400, Lee wrote: > so apparently somebody else has done a threat analysis and decided > apparmor is the appropriate mitigation strategy? *An* appropriate mitigation strategy. Not "the". There are many, many layers.

Re: making Debian secure by default

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 05:23:36PM +0100, Florent Rougon wrote: > Did anyone try 'mesg n' here? I tried: > > > $ mesg n > $ mesg; echo $? > is n > 1 > > Broadcast message from root@hostname (pts/1) (Thu Mar 28 16:48:13 2024)

Re: making Debian secure by default

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 01:30:32PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I'm just not sure that you'll find any "hardening" guide that will > specifically say "disable writing to your terminal as there might be > a bug in a binary that is setgid tty" before yesterday's reveal that > there is such a bug in "wa

Re: variables in bash

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:37:25AM +0100, Hans wrote: > What is the difference (if any) between the following two variables in a > shellfile in bash: > > 1. mypath=/home/user1/Tools/ > 2. mypath="/home/user1/Tools/" They are the same. The quotes are optional here, because your assignment doesn'

Re: Debian 11 PHP 7.4 – Mysql 8 - Can’t get Mysqli_connect to work

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:36:01AM +0100, Bernard wrote: > But I've found more problems, concerning $_REQUEST, $_GET... > > The old way that I used 11 yrs ago no longer works : > > $nom = S_GET [‘nom’] ; > > no longer operates with php 7.4. This code is simply ignored. S_REQUEST, > $_POST do not

Re: debian12: something destroys /etc/network/interfaces at boot

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 06:33:42PM +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > I changed a gateway on a remote site using /etc/network/interfaces by > changing gateway. However, at reboot some old gateway IP reappears. So then the question is *which* of the many different subsystems is in use to set the syste

Re: seeding /dev/random from a security key

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 06:09:02PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 3/25/24 17:27, Andy Smith wrote: > > The thread covers how to make rngd feed /dev/random from a OneRNG in > > Debian 12, but it is no longer possible to tell if that does > > anything useful. > > If not from devices like this, from

Re: $USER vs. $LOGNAME and the EnvironmentVariables wiki page

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > Hi, > > 1. Using CodeSearch, it is not clear to me when to use one or the other. Your original Subject: header mentions $USER and $LOGNAME so I assume you're asking about these. $LOGNAME is the standard variable which is set by th

Re: trying to parse lines from an awkwardly formatted HAR file ...

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 02:05:06PM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Actually, in order to deX-Y it in case anyone can offer any help, it > is more like "I want an index of all the books which have ever been > written/published" in order to read all of them ;-) First of all, you will not achieve th

Re: trying to parse lines from an awkwardly formatted HAR file ...

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 11:55:04AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 09:54:05AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > 1) That HAR file is not properly formatted. Instead of > > "attribute":value pairs in the standard way, they have used front > >

Re: trying to parse lines from an awkwardly formatted HAR file ...

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 09:54:05AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > a) using a chromium-derived browser, which can be used to dump the > HAR file log of the network back and forth, go, e. g.: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaxagoras > b) click on the link that says: "Works by or about Anaxago

Re: Root password strength

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 03:49:06PM +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Check whether you are running ssh: > > > > /sbin/service ssh status > > It's not called ssh; it is sshd > Also nowadays it's more usual to say > > $ systemctl status sshd On Debian, the systemd

Re: Root password strength

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 05:42:55PM +0300, Jan Krapivin wrote: > The root user's password should be long (12 characters or more) and > impossible to guess. Indeed, any computer (and a fortiori any server) > connected to the Internet is regularly targeted by automated connection > attempts with the m

Re: After installing no access to the installed system.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 03:24:14PM +0100, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > Package: Debian installer > Version: As on Debian live-CD/DVD for Debian 12.5 > Severity: critical Note that you sent this email to the debian-user list, not to the bug tracking system. > 6. For User and Passwort enter > Full

Re: Bookworm Networking Issues

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 08:46:26PM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 17.03.2024 um 16:54:27 Uhr schrieb David: > > > Can anybody suggest how to get the networking running? > > You have to tell us what doesn't work in your network. > > Also show the output of > ip a > cat /etc/resolv.conf I have a

Re: shellcheck, bashism's and one liners.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 10:57:43AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > What errors do you get if you use sh instead of bash? He's not getting any errors. His script actually works for his current inputs. He was just getting warnings from shellcheck, which is an external script validation tool. One of

Re: Bookworm Fasttrack and Virtualbox

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:35:33PM +0100, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote: > Well... it seems my brain can't distinguish Bookworm from Bullseye. It's not just you. The use of three "b" names in a row (buster, bullseye, bookworm) was in my opinion a poor decision. I've taken to calling the releases by th

Re: shellcheck, bashism's and one liners.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 09:25:10AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > I have this one-liner (which works but shellcheck doesn't like the > quoting) > > idxsrc="$( newest_file $( APT_CONFIG=${APT_CONFIG} apt-get indextargets > --format '$(FILENAME)' 'Identifier: Packages' ))" > > SC2016: Expressions don

Re: logcheck(1) in bookworm 12.5 /etc/logcheck/logcheck.logfiles.d/syslog.logfiles

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:25:52AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Email from logcheck(1) contains: > > E: File could not be read: /var/log/syslog > E: File could not be read: /var/log/auth.log > > which do not exist in bookworm 12.5. You'll want to install rsyslog, or something equivale

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 02:33:05PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 07 March 2024 09:02:44 am Teemu Likonen wrote: > > systemctl status systemd-timesyncd.service > > This got me some interesting results: > > ● systemd-timesyncd.service - Network Time Synchronization >Loaded: l

Re: Hyphen-minus passwd

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 06:59:47PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > ~ $ perl -e 'print crypt("-password", "\$6\$username\$"), "\n"' > $6$username$FCvGwi21H/uVp89BtnZHWQsL.vZKajZ3lRbfB7Jnjr2C.5qBgx7TB3Ul3PbcyCIArts/C2lfQgYOLp418oH7C0 hobbit:~$ openssl passwd -6 -salt username -- -password $6$username

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 08:31:16AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > So I purged ntpsec and re-installed chrony which I had done once before with > no luck but this time timedatectl was stopped and it worked! > > Now, how do I assure timedatectl stays stopped on a reboot? Which version of Debian is th

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

bbit:~$ ps -ef | grep ntpd ntpsec 854 1 0 Feb17 ?00:01:17 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /run/ntpd.pid -c /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf -g -N -u ntpsec:ntpsec greg 3947371138 0 21:34 pts/000:00:00 grep ntpd Your claims that "no place in the ntpsec docs ... show the ability to sl

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 05:56:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/6/24 12:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:31:46PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > sudo timedatectl set-ntp true > > > > But *don't* do that if you're

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:31:46PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > Mine shows: > > Local time: Wed 2024-03-06 12:09:44 EST > Universal time: Wed 2024-03-06 17:09:44 UTC > RTC time: Wed 2024-03-06 17:20:53 >Time zone: America/New_York (EST, -0500) > Network time on: ye

Re: 404 Not Found Error Problem

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:21:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Not Found > > The requested URL was not found on this server. > Apache/2.4.57 (Debian) Server at abnormal.att.net Port 80 > > I've installed WebMO a number of times and have not encountered this > particular problem before. Are

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 07:37:09AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > It seems that you have solved the problem but here is another hint. > "timedatectl" is a good high-level tool for querying and adjusting time > settings. Without command-line arguments it prints a lot of useful info: > > $ timeda

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 08:28:49PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > Thank Greg Wooledge! > > zhou@debian:~$ date > Wed 06 Mar 2024 04:07:02 AM CST > zhou@debian:~$ date -u > Tue 05 Mar 2024 08:07:07 PM UTC > > above is from deb11 for i386, it's correct OK, and your time zone

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 02:47:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote: > my newly-installed deb11 for amd64 shows wrong time,  it lags behind correct > time by 8 hours though difference between universal and local is ok. Run the commands "date" and "date -u" and show us the output. Then tell us what you think the

Re: how to wiki

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:23:59AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > how do i access the debian wiki > > https://wiki.debian.org/ > > all i get is > > > > > > > > > > Forbidden > > > > You are not allowed to access thi

Re: how to wiki

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how do i access the debian wiki > https://wiki.debian.org/ > all i get is > > > > > Forbidden > > You are not allowed to access this! >From : Q: Can I rename my account? A: Y

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:24:11AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > ^ worked as a negator in dash character classes up to Bullseye though, so > something has changed recently. That's what my web searching failed to find... It looks like dash doesn't have up-to-date documentation on its changes. There

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 10:49:34AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > On 05/03/2024 05:27, David Wright wrote: > > Which shell also matters. The OP appears to be using ^ to negate, > > but ! has the advantage that it will be understood in bash and dash. > > I think ^ has been deprecated recently. I fail

Re: a couple rpi problems

On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 11:41:07PM +, ghe2001 wrote: > 1) The 5, pi5.slsware.lan, keeps sending me email saying, > > "*** SECURITY information for pi5 ***" So, "pi5" appears to be your hostname. > "pi5 : Mar 4 15:40:14 : root : unable to resolve host pi5: Name or service > not known" >

Re: Wifi - unable to connect. [solved]

On 2/26/24 18:52, Kamil Jońca wrote: [...] What if: network = { ssid="ssid" key_mgmt=WPA-EAP eap=PEAP identity="uid" phase2="auth=MSCHAPV2" mesh_fwding=1 password="pas" } Bingo! Dzięki wielkie, ułatwiłeś mi życie. Regards Greg

resolv.conf (was Re: electrons/the Internet [racism redacted])

On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 12:36:54PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > I believe Debian rewrites /etc/resolv.conf on every boot. This is not correct. It's *partly* correct if you ignore a lot of complicating factors. Short version: read . Long version follows:

Re: missing development package?

On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 11:56:54AM +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > thyme after thyme wrote: > > * debian.list > > # Debian Stable. > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free > > non-free-firmware > > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-secur

Re: “Secure Connection Failed” Error in Firefox

On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 12:26:20PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > When accessing the website https://gontijoonibus.gontijo.com.br/ on Firefox > Android (on my smartphone), the site is accessed normally. However, when > attempting to access this site on the desktop, Debian Firefox-ESR version > 115

Re: DNSSEC status of deb.debian.org

On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 02:06:00PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 09:39:42AM +, Andre Rodier wrote: > > I was checking the Debian domain, and noticed that it is DNSSEC compliant. > > > > However, when I check "deb.debian.org", the DNS validation fails. > > Things in the de

Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?

s being a valid match.) The only file named "crontab" is /etc/crontab. Per-user crontabs which live in /var/spool/cron/crontabs are named for their owner. hobbit:~$ sudo ls /var/spool/cron/crontabs greg If you really want to find where the files live, and you didn't happen to

Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:52:33PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:13:49 -0500 > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > The debian wiki suggests that the handling of cron/anacron is > > > evolving. > > > > That sounds like a euphemism for "being killed off" by Systemd and > > its

Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:15:59AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I have an old wifi adapter > that Linux has problems with that works once I run: > > /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac > echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id > > However when I ad

Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 08:48:27AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > You've got three different locales mentioned here: > > > > iu_CA.UTF-8 > > en_GB > > en_CA.UTF-8 > > > > Either generate the two that you're missing, or stop using them. > > I'm trying to stop using them. That's the point. How do I g

Re: How to upgrade the GLIBCXX and GLIBC to the specific version

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 08:08:47AM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 06:51:13AM +, Diego Luo （罗国雄） wrote: > > > > I am using the Raspberry Pi 4B with the Raspbian OS “Linux > > > > raspberrypi 5.15.61-v8+ #1579 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 26 11:16:44 > > > > BST 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linu

Re: How to upgrade the GLIBCXX and GLIBC to the specific version

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 06:51:13AM +, Diego Luo （罗国雄） wrote: > Hi, > > Would you pls help give tips about how to upgrade the GLIBCXX and GLIBC to > the specific version (GLIBCXX_3.4.29, GLIBC_2.34) on Debian? > > I am using the Raspberry Pi 4B with the Raspbian OS “Linux raspberrypi > 5.15.

Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/26/24 20:28, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > > > $locale > > > > > > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such > > > > > > file or directory > > > > > > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No > > > > > > such file o

Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 08:28:01PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > > $locale > > > > > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file > > > > > or directory > > > > > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such > > > > > file or directory > > > > > locale: Cannot set LC_A

Re: Selective rotation of journald logs

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 02:03:50PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > When somebody spends one line answering the question and then pages > “offering an alternative” by explaining things a baby sysadmin would > already know, I deduce they are not much above the level of baby > sysadmin themselves, and

Re: Selective rotation of journald logs

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:48:35PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Mariusz Gronczewski (12024-02-23): > > So to say it short: It is horrid. > > Generic bashing of systemd in favor of a blind cult of the good old ways > are not what I am looking for either, and the unbalanced tone of your > reply ma

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:47:26PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Surely somewhere on debian.org such things must be addressed if Bookworm's > default > has also been changed to btrfs. That has not happened. The default file system is still ext4.

Re: Timer doing apt update

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:39:56AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:17:17AM +0100, Michael wrote: > > i very much dislike the fact that my systems do things i am not aware of. > > I think one of the purposes of a Linux distribution is to pull > together a collection of dispara

Re: Timer doing apt update

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 03:56:49AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:21:24PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Does anyone know when these things changed, and why on earth nobody > > knew about it?! Did I miss a section in the release notes or something? > >

Re: Timer doing apt update

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 09:20:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > >     systemctl disable --now apt-daily.timer apt-daily-upgrade.timer > To avoid confusion, these timers are from the apt package, not from > unattended-upgrades. So they are active on most Debian hosts. Holy crap... when did this h

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 04:00:14PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. > > Another possibility is a (few) large file(s) that is/are still open for > some process(es) but have been `rm` (`unlink`) so they don't have a name > any m

Re: What sets LC_TIME?

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 08:18:41PM +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > That's all normal and expected. > > > > What's odd is that client *actually has* LC_NUMERIC and so on set in > > its environment. Which... is

Re: MiniDLNA log file permission problem

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:34:05PM +0100, Lothar Braun wrote: > I'm debugging a permission problem with the log files created by minidlna in > /var/log/minidlna. I'm trying to use a different username to run minidlna and > do not use the default user account minidlna. The problem is that log file

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> sudo df -h / > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever. Second: what kind of file system is this? > sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1

Re: What sets LC_TIME?

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:11:09AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 09:12:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > > > Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale > > &g

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 05:35:04PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > It was stated here: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/02/msg00592.html "I think that a recorded session with the output of the commands in English is better then a localized session for debugging purposes." I have troubl

Re: Package Identification Assistance

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:05:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 16/02/2024 12:16, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 > > Neal Heinecke wrote: > > > > > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software > > > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo w

Re: What sets LC_TIME?

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale > settings are as expected: > > $ locale > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > LANGUAGE=en_US:en > LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" > LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" [...] Well

Re: What sets LC_TIME?

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:24:07AM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > With the recent LC_ALL thread, I noticed I have LC_TIME set by > mysterious means on at least two headless systems, for example: > > $ locale > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 > LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8 > LC_TIME=en_DK.

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:13:40AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > In my opinion it's often too much to set LC_ALL=C because it changes > charset to ASCII (LC_CTYPE). It depends on what you're doing, of course. If the purpose is to normalize error messages so that you can report your issue to an En

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 09:45:52PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > A new question arise spontaneously: how can csh users run a "script" saved > session using "scriptreplay" command? In the §4.4.1 "Recording the session" > paragraph ¹ I see this syntax: > > # scriptreplay ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.ti

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:35:59PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 14/02/24 at 17:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > # env LC_ALL=C script -t 2>~/upgrade-bookwormstep.time -a > > > ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.script > > That command is already using Bourne family shell s

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:11:55PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > Well, I'll go with env command syntax for shells portability. I was asking > this because I want to suggest a change to the DDP (Debian Documentation > Project) members for the releases notes documentation ¹ > > The change I want t

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 09:47:52PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > This is from a script installed by a package that does a > dpkg-reconfigure locales to set the locale on the machine. What package? What script? > BTW where is LANGUAGE defined in the "standards/conventions"? It's a GNUism. https://www

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 07:56:46PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > Found this in a shell script: > > LC_ALL=$LOC LANG=$LOC LANGUAGE=$LOC update-locale LANG=$LOC LC_ALL=$LOC > LANGUAGE=$LOC In *what* shell script?

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 11:48:04PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Gremlin (12024-02-13): > > Oh like debian does? > > > > cat /etc/default/locale > > # File generated by update-locale > > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > > LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 > > LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 > > I do not observe this, even after “sudo

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:21:20PM -0800, John Conover wrote: > egrep ALL .bashrc > LC_ALL=C This has gone pretty far off the rails, but here we are. Let's address this. DO NOT set LC_ALL in your .bashrc or equivalent files. This is a horrible idea. LC_ALL should only be used in single

Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 09:47:38PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > ~# LC_ALL=C apt install > So the question is: does anybody know if this syntax works on all shells > other than bash? csh, korn, dash, zsh … This syntax works in all the Bourne family shells, which is all of the above *except* csh

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 06:54:58PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Let me write out the example again, but with the bug fixed, and then > > explain what each line does, [... lecture about advanced shell > > programming ...] > > And this a

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 09:35:11AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 13 Feb 2024 at 07:15:48 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:01:47PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > … but not much. For me, "standard output" is /dev/fd/1, yet it seems &

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 07:15:48AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > This is an obvious bug in the info page. I wonder how many years > this has gone unnoticed. I've filed Bug#1063837 for it. <https://bugs.debian.org/1063837>

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

escriptor 3, which was previously opened on line 2. What it actually does *as written* is create/truncate a file whose name is "-", close the previously opened FD 3, and make FD 3 point to the file named "-". unicorn:~$ exec 3>- unicorn:~$ ls -ld -- - -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 0 Feb 13 07:12 - unicorn:~$ ls -l /dev/fd/3 l-wx-- 1 greg greg 64 Feb 13 07:12 /dev/fd/3 -> /home/greg/- This is an obvious bug in the info page. I wonder how many years this has gone unnoticed.

Re: grub-pc error when upgrading from buster to bullseye

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 09:04:01PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > John Boxall wrote: > > I am aware that the label and uuid (drive and partition) are replicated on > > the cloned drive, but I can't find the model number (in text format) stored > > anywhere on the drive. > > Maybe the grub

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