Re: using man pages for programming

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 07:32:51PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 07:01:15PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > reading the signal(7) man page I noticed > > the header "Linux Programmer's Manual" - > > yet, how to I find the contents

Re: fonts in tables

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 06:45:39PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:23:56PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Thank you very much for your assistance Emma. > > I hoped not to use style sheets because the w3m > > version I am using does not seem to s

Re: phoenix and java?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Land
Thanks for the detailed explaination using a additional library system - I really appreciate your help. > > Just curiously grepped for LD_LIBRARY_PATH in > > some dirs and noticed that perl seems to use > > this environment variable too. Is there some > > source of standard env. variables? - I h

using man pages for programming

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Land
reading the signal(7) man page I noticed the header "Linux Programmer's Manual" - yet, how to I find the contents or index of this manual 'section'? Debian provides some information in several readme's and manuals in /usr/share/doc/man /usr/share/doc/man-db but unfortunatly I'm not able to extra

Re: phoenix and java?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 07:16:22PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 06:11:28PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > and couldn't find anything on the Phoenix web page > > mentioning system requirements. Would someone kindly > > jump in and provide some advice? >

Re: fonts in tables

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:52:46PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 06:30:03PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Intention is to define font-bold _only_ for > > one column in a table. > > This may be a question that webdesign-L could help you with. How

fonts in tables

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Land
Intention is to define font-bold _only_ for one column in a table. I had tried this using w3m without any success: ..here are my table contents Would someone kindly provide some advice? Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: phoenix and java?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Land
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:14:21PM -0500, Seneca wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 12:27:55PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > Is there a way to add java support to Phoenix by using debian packages? I > > did a quick google and came up with these: > > Phoenix works for me with the Blackdown Java

Re: OT: functional languages (was: Politics of Java)

2003-01-20 Thread Robert Land
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:23:43AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 03:17:42PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > | also sprach Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.12.13.1443 +0100]: > | > what do you mean by "functional"? even though i have quite limited > | > exper

Question relating regexp

2003-01-17 Thread Robert Land
This is a example one can find on one of the links discribed in the deb HOWTO package: =Section Multipliers(text just pasted): " An example from the phone list: 1248 Kate 634 1548 Kerry 534 To match a line that starts with a 1, has some digits, at least one space and a name

Re: questions relating to the ls and grep command

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 03:35:38PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 03:49:00PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Would someone kindly explain when to use the > > "ls -d" command? The --help notes this would > > list the directory entries - which puz

Re: mutt key bindings

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Land
ifier: alt > > Cheers, > > Euan > * Robert Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Does the latest mutt release enable the emacs > > key bindings Meta+b and Meta+f to jump wordwise > > forth and back? > > > > If so, would someone kindly paste the function &g

mutt key bindings

2003-01-08 Thread Robert Land
Does the latest mutt release enable the emacs key bindings Meta+b and Meta+f to jump wordwise forth and back? If so, would someone kindly paste the function name and the key for "meta" so I may have a try in Muttrc. The docs that came with mutt-0.9.deb do not seem to contain any help on this speci

questions relating to the ls and grep command

2003-01-08 Thread Robert Land
Would someone kindly explain when to use the "ls -d" command? The --help notes this would list the directory entries - which puzzles me a bit because I had never thought of there may be more than one! Seems I have some lack in basic knowledge on this too. Then, when wanting ls only to plot the nam

Re: basics about nntpservers, slrnpull, slrn

2003-01-08 Thread Robert Land
I was used to in other distros). I don't > like the way Debian sets up leafnode at first. It assumes everyone has a dialup > ISP connection. > > OP, Robert Land: > If you would like any help getting it set up (leafnode, slrn). Email me offlist > and I'll help in a

basics about nntpservers, slrnpull, slrn

2003-01-07 Thread Robert Land
As having great difficulties in setting up a offline newsreader system for various users on a debian box I would grately appreciate some guidance. My intention is to have a systemwide spool directory where each user on this box may access his beloved newsgroup he has subscribed to. Some people re

Re: does slrn host a collection of all newsgroups only temporarly?

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:40:55PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 14:49:09 +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > I'm new to slrn and did a apt-get install a few weeks ago. I'm not that > > sure anymore but I thought apt-get had prompted for a valid ne

Re: Fwd: Beware FAKE e-mails being sent as though from list

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 06:00:43PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > I just received an e-mail that looked as though it at come from this list, > (from "nate" ) but in closer inspection it had done nothing of the sort > having been forwarded through a mail server at free.fr from a dial up account > at

does slrn host a collection of all newsgroups only temporarly?

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Land
I'm new to slrn and did a apt-get install a few weeks ago. I'm not that sure anymore but I thought apt-get had prompted for a valid news server while being in installation mode. Addionaly I also thought slrn had pulled all newsgroups from the prompted newsserver (at least I have this warning about

Re: basics about env variables

2002-12-30 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 11:16:28AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Land) writes: > > > The slrnpull program provides the option to > > use the env variable NNTPSERVER instead of > > passing the newsserver by argument. > > > > As bein

Re: lynx wraps table cells inproperly

2002-12-30 Thread Robert Land
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:18:29PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:22:32PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Colin - what do you mean by backporting, downgrading the > > compiler or something like that? > > No; backporting doesn't mean downgrading,

Re: grep freezes system

2002-12-30 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 11:10:36PM +0100, Michael Naumann wrote: > 29.12.2002 20:06:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Land) wrote: > >Yet this grep thing happened today - I know 64MB RAM is > >not quite what you would use nowadays - but I only have > >currently a few xterms runni

Re: lynx wraps table cells inproperly

2002-12-30 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 10:16:54PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 10:27:40PM +0100, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 07:31:22PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 07:47:27PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > >

Re: grep freezes system

2002-12-29 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 03:07:36PM +0100, Michael Naumann wrote: > 29.12.2002 10:51:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Land) wrote: > > >Using recursive grep for large directory structures > >caused the entire system to freeze. > > I once had this, when I tried to access scsi

Re: lynx wraps table cells inproperly

2002-12-29 Thread Robert Land
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 04:28:20AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Yes. This is also not a bug. It's trying to fit things to your > terminal width. > > If you want something that doesn't smash tables into term width, go > grab links-ssl. Keyboard commands are roughly the same, [ and ] > scroll le

grep freezes system

2002-12-29 Thread Robert Land
Using recursive grep for large directory structures caused the entire system to freeze. The same happens for "find / * -group xx_x". I'm still using potato and the current available findutils deb package. Have any users had this before? Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

basics about env variables

2002-12-29 Thread Robert Land
The slrnpull program provides the option to use the env variable NNTPSERVER instead of passing the newsserver by argument. As being not that experienced in unix I had a look at the rcS script to look how this might be done. Following the PATH setting in this file I added these two lines: NNTPSER

lynx wraps table cells inproperly

2002-12-29 Thread Robert Land
This is a problem relating to lynx 2.8.3 out of the stable potato branch: Having html code describing a 2 column table like this: very_long_line_very_long_line_very_long_line very_long_line_very_long_line_very_long_line .. is displayed in this manner if xterm does not provid

Re: lynx rendering fonts

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Land
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:47:29PM +, Pigeon wrote: > That's a Pigeonism, based on the thought of "bollocks to all the fancy > stuff". What it does is create a file /tmp/cleandoc.html, based on > dodgydoc.html but with all the , , and removed. > > sed - stream editor > -e - next argument is

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Land
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:55:06PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:42:46PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > Good idea, found the setting in login.defs. I did a: > > > > MAIL_DIR/var/spool/mail > > #MAIL_FILE .mail > > MAILFILE

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:04:32PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Note that the data stream looks the same, except there is no response > from the server. The "batched" comes from the intent that the data > stream will be saved and then later fed into an MTA. An example > usage, as Colin

Re: lynx rendering fonts

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:18:00AM -0800, Charlie Reiman wrote: > Not xresources, terminfo. Terminfo is lower level. Programs use terminfo to > know what a terminal is capable of and what character sequences it needs to > send to get the terminal to do things. For example, if my TERM is xterm, a >

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:12:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Batched SMTP is a slightly more specialized technique, used when you're > getting a group of messages from some source other than normal SMTP and > injecting them into the mail system all at once. The basic idea is that > you save (i.

Re: lynx rendering fonts

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:38:05PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 06:49:04PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > How can I persuade lynx to 'forget' it's capabilities underlining > > fonts? Everything thats or even is rendered underlined > > and

Re: lynx rendering fonts

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:24:04PM -0800, Charlie Reiman wrote: > If you can't find a nice way to do it in lynx, you should be able to snag > the terminfo entry and customize it to your liking, then set this up as a > new terminal. Given how easy it is to hack up terminal info this should make > a

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:07:13PM +, Pigeon wrote: > Without knowing the details of your setup, I don't know if you've > configured it so that nothing ever ends up in /var/spool/mail/rland. I > think the safest thing to do is to set MAILPATH to include both > /var/spool/mail and whatever dire

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-11 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:02:10PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > | What I'm realy unsure about is if _all_ mail, even the one > | sent by the lowlevel 'mail' program goes through port 25.

Re: benching udma2 drives

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 10:47:44AM -0800, nate wrote: > Robert Land said: > > Do people on this list use these ancient udma2 hdd's? > > > > I did a short test using "hdparm -t /dev/hda" and although > > I have everything turned on that sounds li

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 06:27:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > > By the way, does Mutt 1.4 enable to jump up to previous messages > > (whilest in the pager). The version 1.0.1i only allows me to 'space' >

lynx rendering fonts

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
How can I persuade lynx to 'forget' it's capabilities underlining fonts? Everything thats or even is rendered underlined and makes reading regular expressions in html docs very hard if they have attributes. Actually I would like to change the black background to default just like mutt enables

Re: mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 11:47:41AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > Your understanding is correct. All system mail is sent through port 25, > even stuff generated by the low level programs. In fact, it's more > likely to be the high level stuff (like mozilla mail) that can operate > independently of

benching udma2 drives

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
Do people on this list use these ancient udma2 hdd's? I did a short test using "hdparm -t /dev/hda" and although I have everything turned on that sounds like 'fast' the test only showed ~9 MB/s ! I once did a test on a win system using hdtach and this test made a awful lot of noise, took longer a

mail basics on a debian system

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Land
I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would appreciate some information on the mail topic. I have this one box system, using my general account 'rland' and sometimes root for system configuration. What I would like to know is if/how rland recieves mail actually ment for root, because I rar