search capabilities necessary so we can compare and contrast our
servers against those of others, and friend those with similar setups.
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> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:38:24AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > This is where we differ. I'd rather have building blocks from which
> > I could build anything, rather than a monolith I need to trick into
&
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:51:19 -0400
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> I've googled this several times, but none of what I saw worked or
> seemed relevant. The following seemed the most relevant, but turned
> out not to be helpful:
>
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137080
>
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:47:52 +0900
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> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:58:18 +0900
> > Joel Rees wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Steve Litt
> >> wrote:
[clip Litt's b
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:51:03 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> >
> > LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
> > everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
> > s
it on a
dumpster king you've had since 2006, and see what it does.
Because really, everything bad I said about systemd was a philosophical
thing: I have no idea how well it does or doesn't run your computer
under normal circumstances.
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AW wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:32:48 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >When I switch to systemd, I'd like to have it as isolated as humanly
> >possible, just because I'm a modularity kind of guy.
>
> I've been wa
le what other programs
need to know about systemd and what systemd needs to know about the
programs I run?
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> wrote:
> > I've googled this several times, but none of what I saw worked or
> > seemed relevant. The following seemed the most relevant, but turned
> > out not
ntain, and I would never need its "better
performance" anyway, and I never asked for "better performance".
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had experience with this problem and remembers the solution, you could
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> On Ma, 05 aug 14, 00:05:59, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 18:28:44 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200
> > > Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> > > >
>
why not start them up after complete bootup? Perhaps with
Daemontools. And make sure your reverse DNS spins up early and well, so
that it doesn't cause delays on everything else.
Concurrency is wonderful when it works, hell on wheels when it doesn't.
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know all its options and config
settings, and its myriad of idiosyncracies. And if it has bugs or
departures from documented behavior, as any program of its size is
likely to have at one time or another, everything breaks.
So whether stuff works with systemd isn't the main problem
him
off our backs", in which case, whoops, there goes the house.
The less of these I participate in, the better I like it. I spoze we've
all signed one for Google, so that might be the way to go: No new
indemnifications that way.
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in!!
>
> Thank God. I thought I'd finally lost it.
Yeah, I read the first four lines (I think I break at 72 or something
like that), saw four times that much still to go, and went on to the
next post.
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ine. No rant. Her point was very succinct, complete with a
metaphor (let some air in).
I'd like to go on, but the more I go on, the less succinct I get :-)
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If you want your writing to entertain folks from the 1800's, take a
time machine back, and write ornate megaparagraphs. But if you want to
be read by time-crunched citizens of the 21st century, make your point,
get onto
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:34:50 +0100
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> On Friday 01 August 2014 00:41:01 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
> > Thanks for reading
>
> I found it unreadable. Please let some air in!!
>
> Lisi
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Yes, but *not* changing the Subject is an atrocity. I've often thought
of piping everything with digest type Subjects to /dev/null. Another
atrocity is these guys who leave the entire digest intact when replying.
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> know about KMail in KDE4, but KDE3 KMail does not break threads.
>
> Lisi
LOL, Kmail2 breaks your entire email universe:
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y to easily resize. And it works in almost
any Linux environment, although it's a little quirky in the dwm window
manager.
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text manipulation can often be done by
combinations of AWK and sort in a pipeline. But at some point of
complexity, when a lot of state is involved, AWK stops being practical,
and you need to use a more generally capable language. Like Python.
In summary, if you're not a programmer, learn Python.
now, but just for fun why don't you run startx as root, and
see whether the symptom stays the same or changes.
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I'd imagine pretty soon your problem will fix itself on an update, and
you can go back to lightdm. But in the meantime, you can still do X.
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Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:47:00PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200
> > Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:20:59 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 July 2014 21:36:23 Curt wrote:
> > And maybe more somewhere, more rules and regulations we can abuse
> > and break until we're banned like incurable lepers from the
> > community.
>
> Maybe he is thinking of the DFSG? Or the
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:14:13 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 08:39:26PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On 7/23/14, Joel Rees wrote:
> > > I suppose I'll get complaints about this being off-topic, but
> > > perhaps we can expose a disagreement on terminology without the
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:35:01 +0200
sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Steve Litt writes:
>
> > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer,
> > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely
> > anything. This is why I switched
ant to enforce,
given that the other side of the simplification coin is
non-configurability?
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ld do with Yaml, but you can also
write procedural or functional code to go along with that data. The
same could be said with Python dictionaries.
Shame on you for being OT! But for guys like me, who regularly write
programs so their Linux machine can efficiently run their businesses,
your post is
information about this. I can't be the first...
>
> Do you remember the big flap about merging /bin and /usr/bin ?
I must have missed that. I still have separate /bin and /usr/bin. As a
guy who has /usr/bin on a different partition, I like that /bin is on
the root partition
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:46:37 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:56:13AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:39:16 +0200
> > Jimmy Thrasibule wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've added a new line t
wn to produce the problem under
discussion.
I've never used testing or unstable, but speaking for stable, I find it
wonderful.
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long before the advent of systemd: It's not like Upstart or "sysvinit"
or whatever the current system is called were all that great either.
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>
> This and more excellent documentation at
> https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Configuring_for_testing
This is excellent information. Thank you!
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LOL, how do you do it Andrei? You've tried and failed to rebut me three
times...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:28:55 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and
> reply anyway.
>
> On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Lit
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:01:17 +0100
Klaus wrote:
> On 18/07/14 15:37, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog
> > [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>
>
> Have you searched the archives here, I seem to remember that th
d it's not all that well
maintained, and its config programs, if you can install them at all,
are lacking. So to really get IceWM to do your bidding (and it can),
you're going to need to edit a few twitchy XML like files.
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 17:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:32:29 -0400
> > Frank McCormick wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/15/2014 10:37 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> [snip]
> >>
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:29:23 +0200
Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2014-07-18 17:21 +0200, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > The other thing is, a lot of people thought the current init system
> > was working just fine.
>
> They should read the mail[1] by one of its maintainers which s
d break loose.
The other thing is, a lot of people thought the current init system was
working just fine.
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"Juan R. de Silva" wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:26:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:43:00 + (UTC)
> > "Juan R. de Silva" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> BTW, about &quo
e have an
idea of the next step?
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bupsky, and you're done. Elapsed time, 20 seconds. Time saved if
something goes wrong: hours.
By the way, most of my editing is done in gvim, so I'm the same as you.
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:24:09 -0400 (EDT)
david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to install install flashplugin-nonfree on Wheezy 64 bit
> > on a dual core AMD, and it's been failin
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 20:39:56 + (UTC)
"Juan R. de Silva" wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:29:56 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Turns out it didn't eat it, it just made characters invisible.
> > Here's the start of the thread:
> >
> > https:/
or to
my /etc/apt/sources.list. How would I find such mirrors? Do I just put
them below my corresponding rit.edu entries? Can I leave the rit.edu
entries intact? Until today, rit.edu has served me admirably. Is there
some sort of command I should run to add a mirror set, or do I just
edit sources.list
your question, I'm just curious: why not sudo,
assuming the user you want is root?
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José Silva wrote:
> On 15/07/14 23:11, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:00:34 +0100
> > José Silva wrote:
> >
> >> On 15/07/14 21:03, Bret Busby wrote:
> >>> Pluma
> >>>
> >&
le. I think that was
reported on this mailing list.
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who understood how to use it, and it can be very
productive and very pretty.
You know, so many people believe that the distro and WM/DE are a
package deal, which is why everyone fled Ubuntu after Unity. There are
zillions of outstanding WM/DEs to pick from, no matter what distro you
choose.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:32:29 -0400
Frank McCormick wrote:
> On 07/15/2014 10:37 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:36:54 +
> > Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> Steve Litt wrote at 2014-07-11 11:21 -0500:
> &
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:36:54 +
Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >Steve Litt wrote at 2014-07-11 11:21 -0500:
> >> A bizarre thought just popped into my head, in the form of a
> >> little voice. The little voice told me that if they guys who
> >> contr
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ing up a new printer.
Go around to every printer, and make sure all the CUPS printers, at
127.0.0.1:631, are marked not shareable. I bet that makes the problem
goes away.
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> > have had before buying another expensive failure.
>
> Can't suggest any models, but make sure it works *before* you buy it!
Easier said than done.
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d for the amount I scan, it's not particularly a burden.
If that works, maybe you can keep the printer you have now.
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Hi all,
The way I get throttled, occasionally the only way I can watch a
Youtube video is to download it first and then watch it with smplayer.
As far as I can see, Wheezy has no package for either youtube-dl or
minitube. What are you guys using to fill that need?
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ed from usage had a visually measurable data
> storage impact on those tiny hard drives of (also) not very long
> ago... :)
>
> Cindy :)
LOL, they also have a visually measurable effect on bandwidth, because
I killfile those who consistently fail to capitalize and punctuate.
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:33:52 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote:
>
> > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a
> > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->).
> >
>
> No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction i
growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=debian-live-7.5.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso
If you have a /dev/dvd, the preceding should burn the iso quite well.
Unless, of course, you have some kind of weird problem, in which case
you can email us back with the results.
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e told me that if they guys who controlled the
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would have a microkernel today.
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Bob Proulx wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB,
> > > and all the system runs on it (on a laptop).
> >
> > You're n
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:49:54 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 09.07.2014 23:11, Mark Carroll a écrit :
> > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes:
> >
> >> Le 09.07.2014 15:40, Mark Carroll a écrit :
> >>> Martin Read writes:
> &
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:29:02 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 09.07.2014 23:06, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > Anyone who regularly uses nohup for this kind of thing should try
> > the following:
> >
> > find / -type f -name nohup.out -exec ls -l
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:29:51 +0200
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Thursday 10 July 2014 00.44:20 Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > And, for eighty bucks more you can get a small (256GB) SSD mounted
> > as /, put nothing on it but /usr and /opt and possibly /boot
>
> I would not
in/bash
iceweasel &
I have to test more, but if systemd trashes my doubleforks, it appears
I might have techniques that will work in systemd and the older init
systems.
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o much
latency with those things to use as a workstation disk. When I do :s in
Vim, it takes a half a second to complete, and that's disturbing. In a
few months I'll replace it with a WD black.
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>
>
> Le 09.07.2014 15:40, Mark Carroll a écrit :
> > Martin Read writes:
> >
> >> On 09/07/14 05:07, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> [regarding double fork]
> >>> I
background program when you exit the
xterm, assuming you didn't precede the command with nohup, which
carries all sorts of security and file size baggage?
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Martin Read wrote:
> On 09/07/14 05:07, Steve Litt wrote:
> [regarding double fork]
> > In other words, it's going to bust my program, right?
>
> Maybe. Do the programs you launch need to outlive your session? If
> so, your launcher
to do that with Ubuntu,
because Debian does strange things with the menu (don't ask me to
remember "strange", it's been months).
Once a laptop goes out of warranty, I feel free to put any distro, or
any type of BSD I want on the machine.
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:57:51 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:03:31 +0200
> > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> >>
> >> I forgot that systemd is able to "spy" processes it star
g to be a benefit.
Everyone on the planet knows Bash, which by now is a standard. Do we
really have to learn yet another "declarative syntax"?
> * A fork and exit with PID file model for daemon startup.
Definitely a pain in the ass but not a showstopper.
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ight not be up to the 40 step manual installation of Arch,
or the no-dependency packaging system of Slackware, or the
compile-your-kernel during installation Gentoo, but I'm not going with
Mint or Redhat+KDE either.
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Tro
ces that it
> really should. But...
> I am not trying to impose my opinion and my uses to everyone (ok, to
> be honest, when I can convince someone to use i3, I try hehe. But I
> will never ask for the removal of gnome as the default Debian's DE.).
For what it's worth, Berenger
if those applications depends on
> > it. But it's a part of the noise around systemd.
> >
>
> [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743941#10
I don't see anything compelling in that explanation. I might end up
using djb Daemontools to instantia
letter of every sentence? When reading fast, it
really does make a difference.
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Johann Klammer wrote:
> open a terminal, and enter
> xset -dpms s off
For whatever reason, I've needed to put the preceding in a loop that
fires every 30 minutes.
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nd that continually grows its own, huge and
insecure nohup.out files, in whatever its current directory happens to
be?
I certainly hope that systemd isn't cancelling a design pattern used
since the dawn of time.
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,
sort, grep, awk and the like. NoSQL "tables" are trivial to read with
the naked eye, but it gives you Unix-command based readers to put
headers and column spacers and the like. It's pretty cool, and it's
surprisingly fast. So SQL isn't a requirement, this can be an excellen
w how much to copy? GPT partitions vary in length.
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Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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we all
had good documentation, we could modify our boxes to our hearts'
content without undue mishaps.
>
> 4. Systemd is turning a lot of heads and postings. Yes, indeed, the
> bootup and shutdown are lightning quick!! No more "starts" and
> "stops" of th
First things first: I'm Steve Litt, using the same email address I've
used since 1996. You may or may not believe me a troll, but you have to
admit I'm not some guy coming around yet again with new email address,
trying to fool everybody.
Anyway, I don't think a disli
I think it's because they believe, rightly or wrongly, that you're the
same person that came on here before with all sorts of anti-systemd
yelling, not to express an opinion, but to start trouble. If their
belief is wrong, you were treated unfairly. If their opinion is right,
you're an utter piece
On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:04:15 +0200
Siard wrote:
> Steve Litt:
> > Siard:
> > > But editing ~/.gtkrc-2.0 is indeed the easiest and most
> > > hassle-free way when not using Gnome.
> > >
> > > To set the default gtk2-font, add something like this:
>
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:05:10 +0200
Siard wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > lxappearance does its magic by writing the *correct* stuff to
> > ~/.gtkrc-2.0.
>
> The traditional way to set gtk2 fonts used to be: either from within
> Gnome or by running gnome-settings-daemon.
&g
trying to follow
all the contradictory Web suggestions for changing fonts on gtk2 apps,
now you can save what hair you have left.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:40:18 +0200
B wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:22:02 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > If worst comes to worst and I can't find a way to get grep to do
> > this, I'll just put together a substitution table,
> > convert /usr/share/dict/w
ep to do this,
I'll just put together a substitution table,
convert /usr/share/dict/words to words.ascii, line for line, search
words.ascii, get the line number, and pull that line out of words.
Crude, but effective.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:47:34 -0400
Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > Joe wrote:
> > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
> > >Tom Furie wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0
ave everything in grub.conf, and call it SimpleGrub. To
paraphrase Henry Ford, "SimpleGrub is available in any color scheme you
want, as long as you want white text on black background."
Thanks for the great suggestion. I'm going to use it just as soon as I
get a chance.
SteveT
Ste
co.
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>
Find common factors on all the places it succeeds. Find all the common
factors on the places it fails. Then contrast the two sets of common
factors, and that should point an accusing finger at the root cause.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:35:23 +0200
B wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:13:43 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > I just worked around the thing and went on to other things. Please
> > note the preceding xrandr output was *after* applying my
> > "solution".
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