Re: using less in a bash script, screen blanking, alternate screen

2013-09-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 4:00:02 AM UTC-4, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > OK, I have the following script (reduced, just enough to demonstrate > > the problem): > --- test.sh --- > #!/bin/bash > cmd="apt-cache search debian-installer | sort | egrep --color=always -i > debian-installer" > #tput nrrm

Re: terminal emulator compatible with Ecma-48

2013-04-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Monday, April 29, 2013 5:30:03 PM UTC-4, Chris Davies wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > What I recall of the PuTTY FAQ (a specific pointer would help) is that > > > it's roughly comparable to rxvt > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgta

Re: terminal emulator compatible with Ecma-48

2013-04-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:30:01 AM UTC-4, Chris Davies wrote: > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > I know that most terminal emulators support most VT100 escape > > sequences, which are based on ecma-48 > > > > I'd extend that to suggest that most terminal emulators support the > ma

Re: finch key-binding doesnt work

2012-10-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:50:01 AM UTC-4, houkensjtu wrote: > I installed finch by apt-get install finch. > > Unfortunately all key-binding doesn't work in Xterm. > > Since xterm is the most frequently used term for me, it's quite annoying. I > found on debian bug report log that also othe

Re: have to switch windows back and forth after firefox, gimp, etc. exit

2010-11-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Help, whenever I close firefox, gimp, etc. (emacs is OK though.) I have to switch windows back and forth before I can continue typing into the window I am left starting at. Else my keystrokes are ignored

Re: have to switch windows back and forth after firefox, gimp, etc. exit

2010-11-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Help, whenever I close firefox, gimp, etc. (emacs is OK though.) I have to switch windows back and forth before I can continue typing into the window I am left starting at. Else my keystrokes are ignored. I use Debian sid/experimental. pstree says:

Re: keeping the two latest files on a folder

2009-10-14 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. at 14/10/09 23:12... Your font has betrayed you. The single-column-mode option is "-1" (dash-one), your messages says you tried the option "-l" (dash-ell) which requested a detailed (long) listing. Aha! Sure looked lik

Re: recent xterm/terminal(?) change (control-C) shows ^C?

2009-09-17 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Justin Piszcz wrote: Hello, Distribution: Debian Testing Recently, after an apt-get dist-upgrade, when I hit control-c, I get the following in an xterm: $ ^C It occurs with aterm/xterm, bash and csh. It's not related to versions of xterm (noting "aterm" above, and chec

Re: looking for packages versions of running daemons

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Thomas Dickey wrote: however, Debian's packagage maintainer for mawk has not responded to any of package... -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: looking for packages versions of running daemons

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Javier Barroso wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Cameron Hutchison wrote: /proc/pid/cmdline usually has ASCII NUL separated fields, which awk does not split, so usually you have to use xargs -0. I noticed some cases where

Re: looking for packages versions of running daemons

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Javier Barroso wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Cameron Hutchison wrote: /proc/pid/cmdline usually has ASCII NUL separated fields, which awk does not split, so usually you have to use xargs -0. I noticed some cases where the args were space separated (perl script),

Re: How to install updated terminfo entry in home directory?

2009-09-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:00:08PM +0200, Otto Maddox wrote: > I have been having DEL/delete/backspace problems, the cause of which I > have traced to the following bug report: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319554 > > In summary, version 5.5-5 of libncurses5 (and libncurses

Re: xterm font sizes choices?

2009-04-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:10:21AM +0200, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > zhang zhengquan writes: > > >Thanks, then maybe 10x20 is just small for me... > > To verify that the correct resources are being used, run > "xterm -fn 10x20". This will start an xterm with that font, > or display an error th

Re: mouse and gpm

2009-03-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:20:12AM +0100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 04:57:15PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > I hadn't really thought about gpm in particular, but wheel mice are > > doable with the extension I added a few years ago, and have tested in &

Re: mouse and gpm

2009-03-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
t; I think the next/new ncurses will allow this sort of thing. Maybe Thomas > Dickey has more info. He seems to magically pop in if xterm or lynx is > mentioned in a post. :) google (though as time passes, it's more and more spotty in its coverage) I hadn't really thought about gpm

Re: help with mlterm

2009-01-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 01:30:07AM +0100, David Purton wrote: > Becuase complex charaters become hard to read, especially at small point > sizes. Bold is set to be a different colour, I don't need a different > typeface as well. Many terminals have the option to disable bold fonts - > it's just a p

Re: lynx and readme.gz

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:20:07AM +0100, lee wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:46:26PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 03:30:09AM +0100, lee wrote: > > > The web page looks good --- but it seems to tell me that it isn't > > > possible

Re: lynx and readme.gz

2008-11-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 03:30:09AM +0100, lee wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 04:07:50PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 04:40:07AM +0100, lee wrote: > > > Hm, there seem to be lots of options in lynx.cfg, but almost > > > everything is disabl

Re: lynx and readme.gz

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 04:40:07AM +0100, lee wrote: > Hm, there seem to be lots of options in lynx.cfg, but almost > everything is disabled. The file has 3569 lines, but only 34 lines are > not empty and don't start with a "." or a "#". And there is no manpage > about lynx.cfg. Most of those "356

Re: lynx and readme.gz

2008-11-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:40:04AM +0100, lee wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:47:23PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:04:22PM -0600, lee wrote: > > > how do I configure lynx to display or to have an option to display > > > gziped files (like README.Debian.gz) inste

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:20:09AM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: ... > ...where'd i go wrong? I don't _see_ the problem. But when I'm puzzled by a configuration problem with lynx, I use the trace options to see what it is actually loading. You should be able to do oldl

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 01:50:19PM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TD> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:30:17AM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. > wrote: > >> Configuration file "3D3D/tmp/lynxcfg

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:30:17AM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TD> You don't have to run it with root: "oldlynx" is a script that calls lynx. > TD> So you could put "oldlynx" in your

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:10:07AM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TD> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:10:17PM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. > wrote: > TD> If lynx thinks there's no color-style file,

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:10:17PM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TD> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:00:21PM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. > wrote: > >> there's nothing in there about col

Re: lynx upgrade issue?

2008-08-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:00:21PM +0200, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > # local overides for lynx-cur configuration > STARTFILE:http://www.debian.org/ > NNTPSERVER:cis.dfn > > there's nothing in there about color_style. in fact, the only > thing in the entire directory about color_s

Re: terminal resize doesn't propagate to an application

2008-07-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:29:36PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:20:14PM +0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > IIRC, there

Re: terminal resize doesn't propagate to an application

2008-07-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:20:14PM +0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > IIRC, there's a (Debian-specific?) bug in ncurses regarding WINCH. > > Is it reported? That's an extremely annoying bug that is asking to be > stomped with extreme prejudice.

Re: terminal resize doesn't propagate to an application

2008-07-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:00:32AM +0200, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/30/08 15:47, Martin Kraus wrote: > > hello, > > I've got a problem with resizing terminal windows. The information about > > terminal resizing doesn't always reach the applica

Re: What am I missing without mutt?

2008-02-15 Thread Thomas Dickey
gt;> > >> > (The verb "try" is appropriate here, as mlterm is a bit buggy). >> >> Hmmm, I do not remember since when, but maybe since Potato? >> >> It seems, "mlterm" will be never run stable. before this >> happen Thomas

Re: discovering debian ...

2008-02-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
oxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, i just installed debian/gnome and am discovering it. > At first, few things sound strange: > where is man here? There is only a strange xman :-[ > The /usr/share/man is actually there ... > an apropos? whatis? > `xtem --help` says that `xterm -fs 14` should w

Re: lynx configuration

2008-01-14 Thread Thomas Dickey
hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just installed lynx. I am a vim user and I like to use vim key > map on lynx and use the same terminal background color (black) in lynx > (lynx uses gray background by default) when I start the lynx. It's set in the lynx.lss file (see the comment at the top o

Re: Terminal issues in fresh install

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a >>> Unicode-enabled xterm, pass "-u", or both. Sarge dates to

Re: Terminal issues in fresh install

2008-01-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-01-01 20:57 +0100, Daniel Burrows wrote: >> Note that just changing the environment variable inside the terminal >> won't help -- it's the terminal that needs to interpret those sequences, >> so you have to run *the terminal itself* in the new lo

Re: Terminal issues in fresh install

2008-01-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a > Unicode-enabled xterm, pass "-u", or both. Sarge dates to 2005; I'm sure > that there were X terminals in 2005 that could handle UTF-8, but I don't > know if the default xterm did

Re: vi issue in etch

2007-12-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Joseph L. Casale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While you are at it, consider using vim instead of vi unless you have a good > reason not to do so. this statement leads naturally into the next: > Well, therein lies my lack of experience! I didn't even know there was a > difference, vim is what I

Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I edit the .Xdefaults : > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* (the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp:

Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I edit the .Xdefaults : > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* (the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp:

Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I edit the .Xdefaults : > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* (the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp:

Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I edit the .Xdefaults : > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* (the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp:

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On > OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM > is set to vt220. vt220's don't do color. OpenBSD console is normally set to make $TERM to "vt200"

Re: xterm won't start

2007-08-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had a pty-related error with xterm on PowerPC in the past. I had > to use the following workaround in my app-defaults file for XTerm: I don't think it is related (it's a different error code). > ! On ay (PPC), ones needs to set eightBitInput to t

Re: less, exit but left content on screen

2007-08-16 Thread Thomas Dickey
Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wanted to describe the control-mouse alternate screen switching > capability because it is useful to know about and can help people > understand what is happening at a better level of detail. People who > have never heard of the alternate screen buffer of

Re: less, exit but left content on screen

2007-08-15 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curious! I haven't had xterm installed now for some time, so I'm going > from memory. Main reason I chose aterm was for the smaller footprint. > At the moment I have 2 aterms running that would suggest more than > scrollback buffer size are factors in RSS:

Re: less, exit but left content on screen

2007-08-14 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > aterm is also a very nice replacement to xterm because it uses so little > memory. (The 3 aterm windows I have up right now show RSS of 2404, > 2448, and 2464 in output from ps aux.) There are several variables. For instance, the scrollback size affects t

Re: less, exit but left content on screen

2007-08-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:40:11PM +0200, Bob Proulx wrote: > Using the standard xterm the control-middle mouse button will display > many options of which one is "Show Alternate Screen". It is possible > to flip back and forth (inconveniently) to see this manually switch to > the alternate screen

Re: xterm hanging

2007-06-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Launching /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm from a terminal yields the following lines: > > Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: XF86Paste > Warning: ... found while parsing ' > XF86Paste:insert-selection(SELECT, CUT_BUFFER0) ' > Warning

Re: xterm hanging

2007-06-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Launching /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm from a terminal yields the following lines: odd - that moved to /usr/bin last year. Is this from the updated Debian package? > Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: XF86Paste > Warning: ... found while pa

Re: xterm fonts - problem solved and able to replicate

2007-05-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was trying some bigger fonts to use with xterm but adding them and > then starting xterm would make xterm size very large, more than the > screen size. So I edited .Xresources and added a xterm*geometry option > to a reasonable geometry size. http://invisibl

Re: Really slow xterm

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Thomas Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Actually, it has been worse at times than even above. Yesterday, I >> > ran the same test and it took 20 seconds. I thought that w

Re: Really slow xterm

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Michelle Konzack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Am 2007-05-16 15:59:10, schrieb cothrige: >> > I have installed xterm via apt, running etch, and have noticed that it >> > scrolls really slowly. I compared it to rxvt by running `time ls` in >> > /usr/bin with

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/23/07, cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you can't get the menu bar .. you could alway do a Ctrl+mouse button >> (right, left, middle) to bring up xterm menus. > Menubar? In an xterm? Well, atleast I am knowledgeless about this if > it's possible. I

Re: Really slow xterm

2007-05-20 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-05-17 11:03:57 -0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> For "large" scrollbacks, e.g., more than 10,000 lines, >> xterm has its own problems. > Hmm... yes. I've tried with xterm using a 20,000-line scrollback, >

Re: Really slow xterm

2007-05-17 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-05-16 15:59:10 -0500, cothrige wrote: >> I have installed xterm via apt, running etch, and have noticed that it >> scrolls really slowly. I compared it to rxvt by running `time ls` in >> /usr/bin with rxvt taking 0.572s and xterm running at 4.63

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's not good. THat means X is ignoring those keystrokes and passing > them through to Xterm. Fortunately, "X" ignores keystrokes, so you're able to use your keyboard. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> and press CTRL+ALT+F1? > Well...if I do that while I'm still in the XTerm, I see... > ^[[1;7P > ...but I think that's just XTerm freaking out. When another frame > is focused and I press the buttons, there is no output. It helps to read the documentat

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is someone who reads this list by the name of Thomas Dickey who > seems to maintain the Xterm package, I suspect that he could provide an > answer. Actually I maintain the xterm program (and others), but no packages. -- Thomas

Re: TERM for small bw monitor?

2007-04-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:45:36PM +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:47:35AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> > Short of working out a setterm recipe, does anyone know of a TERM >> > setting I can uses that only doe

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-20 Thread Thomas Dickey
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 02:01:30AM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:33 -0600 >> "Javier Vasquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> > I'm sure you'll get better and more pertinent replies, even for the >> > opera vs fir

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
Arlie Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sarge and etch offer two packages containing xterm - one of which > calls itself something like XTERM(unicode), except not quite that. Perhaps you're thinking of rxvt-unicode (which is not xterm). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was helping a friend setup his system with Indic fonts with unicode > support some time ago (a few months). We couldn't get it working in > xterm but it was a breeze to get gnome-terminal and konsole working with Reading your comment closely, it appears that

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: >> H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Arlie Stephens wrote: >> >>>> I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, >>>> notably my email client mutt. Othe

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally, open gnome-terminal or konsole and fire up mutt. You should see > various language characters in all their glory. BTW, xterm does not > support UTF-8 properly yet. that, or you're not reading the manpage. (hint: provide a useful bug report) -- Thomas

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arlie Stephens wrote: >> >> I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, >> notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow > Do you use mutt in xterm? If so, it will be very difficult to get this > right. Try this: yawn

Re: best terminal emulator for emacs -nw?

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
Gnu_Raiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>From: Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wrote one day while in band camp: >> I'm trying to get emacs setup for mutt and slrn. It works really well, >> except for one thing. When I use it as my editor with emacs -nw, the >> alt- key combos get muddled by xterm

Re: multi-gnome-terminal alternative

2007-01-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> A good place to start learning would be by reading bug reports for >> gnome-terminal (some are older than your cited experience, but each >> release of gnome-terminal produces new and interesting bugs). > Interesting. I guess the word regression d

Re: multi-gnome-terminal alternative

2007-01-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 12:19:34AM -0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> It appears you didn't read the whole thread (one's mentioned ;-). > I did. Jerome's single problem was mentioned in a reply to a reply to > Marc

Re: multi-gnome-terminal alternative

2007-01-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be ineterested to learn more. I have been using gnome-terminal > nearly every day since I started using Debian in late 2002. I have had > very few issues with gnome-terminal. >From what I read on google, you're an end-user of gnome-terminal, an

Re: multi-gnome-terminal alternative

2007-01-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Naturally, since he provided *zero* substantiation for his position (if > you could even call it that), I asked if he had in fact used it. Now, I > don't consider that bouncing email around. He did not provide a single > point why gnome-terminal was

Re: multi-gnome-terminal alternative

2007-01-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 04:57:19PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 03:32:26PM -0500, R

Re: Lynx on Etch ( Ready ? )

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you for that. In the mean time I found the answer to my last > question: how to get unicode keyboard input on a console as user: > kbd_mode -u > > I just tried this: create a file in lynx with a name with accented > characters: works. But bookmark

Re: Lynx on Etch ( next step )

2006-12-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>Lynx (-cur) on Etch: I don't get any characters with accents ! They are >>left out and then another character might get lost as well, for instance >>on the bottom of google.com there is a copyright-sign and then '2006', >>which results

Re: Lynx versus Links2 ( was: Lynx on Etch )

2006-12-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Links2 is probably much better at rendering webpages, tables, frames, > css, even java-script is seems to do. In terms of the original posting however - I just checked to see if it had changed - links2 (like links, elinks), doesn't have a way to display UTF-8. It does

Re: Lynx on Etch

2006-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 02:34:14AM +0100, Jasper wrote: >> >> Both are version 2.8.5 rel.1 . The one at my ISP gives messages in >> english, the one here in dutch. In a console it is the same problem. >> >> Any hints ? >> >> In a way I suspect it is not a lynx problem,

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 16:24:04 -0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> >> > for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without >> > being an aspiring contributor himself. I

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for developers to contribute. Someone can make such a statement without > being an aspiring contributor himself. I see neither a "promise" nor a > "lie" in what he writes. The lie was this: stating that it was not allowed to happen. Anytime the topic c

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:03:01PM +0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in >> > XFree86 was that it was not

Re: xorg , xfree86?

2006-11-05 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the reasons why there was not a modularized source tree in > XFree86 was that it was not allowed to happen. No? So XFree86 never > could have it, while Xorg now does. And this lead to XFree86 development > being harder than Xorg. To me this is a diffe

Re: xterm, mutt, emacs -nw, and utf-8

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
Anders Lennartsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Presumably you're using the options for telling xterm to use UTF-8 encoding >> as well. But I don't see any details of that here, so it could be a problem. > For

Re: xterm, mutt, emacs -nw, and utf-8

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
Anders Lennartsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > XTERM > Xterm by itself also seems to be able, and if I set the use of fonts > in .Xdefaults by e.g. > XTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 > it can print most characters. For example the results of echo -e

Re: window manager not picking up Xresources?

2006-09-16 Thread Thomas Dickey
Mumia W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are those hard-coded commands you're talking about? That's > important because terminal emulators recognize their resources based > upon their names. So if you define resources for "XTerm" (note the > capitals), but you start the program as "xterm," it

Re: how to tail w/o folding the output?

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> How do you run tail and not have it fold the output? > Since these apps treat the screen as a "glass teletype", that would > be a function of the console or xterm, not of tail. > As to how to modify the console, though... man con

Re: make menuconfig segfault

2006-08-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Back in 2003 make menuconfig always segfaulted unless I used a ncurses > tarball and used that: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/12/msg04950.html > Now, 3 years later, it still happens: ...and still (google says I commented in Sun, F

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ian Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: >>> - Horizontal borders in Aptitude (e.g. in the search or quit >>> dialogs) become '?' characters. >> >> This is more interesting. Those dashes look like they're double-width

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I meant recompiling ncurses, to get version 5.5. But I wonder if Apple > modified the ncurses 5.4, because tic didn't behave like under Debian. > For instance, xterm-* were installed under the 78 subdirectory instead > of the x subdirectory. hex 0x78 i

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006-07-11 23:49:23 -0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Note: you shouldn't use the ncurses that come with Mac OS X. They are >> > buggy. >> >> hmm -

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should set TERM to 'macosx'. If things don't work, just fix them > in the terminfo data and rerun tic. that's more/less what I was advising. > Note: you shouldn't use the ncurses that come with Mac OS X. They are > buggy. hmm - to the best of my

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ian Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, meant for this to go to the list (why no Reply-To?)... tin doesn't post to email (I often followup with the same information) > Thomas Dickey wrote: > First off thank you for such a helpful response! >>> "pret

Re: OS X Terminal.app and Aptitude

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
Ian Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to get OS X 10.4.7's Terminal.app to play nice when ssh'ing > into my Debian Etch box. > I've run `infocmp -L > xterm-color' on my Mac (I have Terminal.app set > to report xterm-color), and compiled the result on my Debian box with > the f

Re: Bitstream Vera size in XTerm

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16/06/06, cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ctrl+ displays xterm's "VT Fonts" menu. > That doesn't work for TrueType fonts in XTerm. It switches to "fixed" > ot something. no - If you've set the -fa option for a valid font, xterm displays in that

Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?

2006-05-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I posted to this list a while back, I have had to abandon xterm in favor > of gnome-terminal because some aspect of the xorg upgrade made the xterm > font unchangeable. oh. Which bug report is that? (Debian has a bug-reporting system, which doesn't seem

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-16 Thread Thomas Dickey
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:34:13PM -0000, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> whiptail doesn't appear to support gpm (only a subset of xterm mouse). > Hi, > have you investigated twin and libtw0. Its curses based and supports a > mo

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Installed libctk-3.0.25. The debian package doesn't work but the tarball >>> does: is the *console tool kit*. No longer suppor

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --SO98HVl1bnMOfKZd > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>Magnus Therning wrote: >>>On Fri, May 05, 2

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2006-05-05 06:50:41, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: >> Hi, >> >> Anybody knows of a dialog package version (Displays user-friendly dialog >> boxes from shell scripts) that has mouse support? > Yes, "dialog". I was realy surprised as I was able > to kli

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Installed libctk-3.0.25. The debian package doesn't work but the tarball > does: is the *console tool kit*. No longer supported though and no docs > at all. Is supposed to be a console API interface to gtk. Has sound support. I don't recall noticing

Re: dialog package with mouse support

2006-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I'd like to stay out of X. I found something called Ndialog that > supports the mouse. It's interesting, but whenever I've run its demos, it doesn't take long to get a core dump. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-

Re: Xorg upgrade: xdm fails, xterm can't change fonts?

2006-04-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Shawn Lamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but it seems from an strace of xterm that /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color > is no longer checked... I looked through the last 30 days of package > changelogs and didn't see this noted... bug report time? If so, that would be against the X libraries, ra

Re: environment for viewing/creating ANSI art?

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas Dickey
Andrew Cady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "dosemu" package includes the font that you want -- the very same > one that came on the IBM-PC, with all the line-drawing glyphs and such. vga iirc, there's only one small size for it though (fine if you're used to running X in 640x800 mode, but not

Re: environment for viewing/creating ANSI art?

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas Dickey
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to use the console, 'man consolechars'. 'apropos console' for > other relevant commands. console_codes But its description of character sets is so vague that it could be deleted without losing information. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisib

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