On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote:
> From the man himself:
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html
Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering.
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On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:57 +0100, Brian wrote:
> From the man himself:
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/198927.html
Please don't post links to the troll and Linux enemy Lennart Poettering.
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On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 09:23 -0500, Mike Bailey wrote:
> > Is it a multisync monitor? You perhaps need to configure the monitor's
> > settings on the monitor.
> >
> > When using the GUI the frequencies of my monitor are 81.9KHz/89.9Hz, if
> > I switch to tty2 the frequencies are 48.3KHz/59.9Hz on a
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 08:03 -0500, Mike Bailey wrote:
> If I send an ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to tty2, I am able to use the
> entirety of the monitor, which tells me that this is an issue somewhere
> in X.
Is it a multisync monitor? You perhaps need to configure the monitor's
settings on the monito
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 21:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:58 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm
>
> At the moment we IMO should stay away from Razor-Qt for daily usage, but
> it can't harm to install
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:58 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm
At the moment we IMO should stay away from Razor-Qt for daily usage, but
it can't harm to install it and to monitor it's progress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor-qt
IMO much of the ev
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 18:29 +0200, B wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:12:00 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > It's idiotic to
> > send a response to such a mail, but you couldn't resist. It's
> > idiotic that we have each week a discussion about top-p
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 17:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 15 June 2014 16:50:01 david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> > i had hoped that this bikeshedding BS over OP's domain name would blow
> > over after ralf wisely reminded us to assume good faith.
>
> There is no sensible way that his r
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 11:50 -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> i had hoped that this bikeshedding BS over OP's domain name would blow
> over after ralf wisely reminded us to assume good faith.
>
> alas...
>
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014, Curt wrote:
>
> > On
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 11:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Anyone who sends unfiltered content from the Internet over any amateur
> radio mode is asking for trouble.
Keep in mind, that at least in Germany, you need a license to do amateur
radio, it's not citizens' band, at least not in Germany. Int
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 09:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> My mega-apologize for the PPPS :S
>
> [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ RETVAL=foo_bar
> [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat .msmtp.mail/fraud.mail | msmtp -a default
> ralf.mard...@rocketmial.com; RETVAL=$?; echo $RETVAL
> 0
> [
My mega-apologize for the PPPS :S
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ RETVAL=foo_bar
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat .msmtp.mail/fraud.mail | msmtp -a default
ralf.mard...@rocketmial.com; RETVAL=$?; echo $RETVAL
0
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ RETVAL=foo_bar
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat .msmtp.mail/fraud.ma
My apologize for the PPS, but without the && it also seems to work:
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat .msmtp.mail/fraud.mail | msmtp -a default
ralf.mard...@rocketmial.com; RETVAL=$?; echo $RETVAL
0
The "0" is displayed with delay, IOW RETVAL=$?; echo $RETVAL has to wait until
the sending of the m
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 09:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 09:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 01:46 -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> >
> > > > echo "${SHUTDOWNBODY}" | mail -s "${SHUTDOWNSUBJECT}&
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 09:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 01:46 -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
>
> > > echo "${SHUTDOWNBODY}" | mail -s "${SHUTDOWNSUBJECT}" ${EMAIL}
> > > sleep 4
> > > RETVAL=$?
> &
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 01:46 -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> > echo "${SHUTDOWNBODY}" | mail -s "${SHUTDOWNSUBJECT}" ${EMAIL}
> > sleep 4
> > RETVAL=$?
>
> i can't comment on the rest of the script, but you probably want
> RETVAL to be the exit status of the pipeline that sends the
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 23:20 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 14 June 2014 22:11:05 Pol Hallen wrote:
> > domain (mine) of email (mine) is not your problem and if you don't like
> > it's not my problem ;-)
>
> No, but if all of us decide not to like it, and kill-file you as I am now
> doing,
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 13:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 11 iun 14, 01:32:37, B wrote:
> > From what you report, Ralf, the kinda site attack they
> > suffered should never happen, or at least should have been
> > circumvented very fast (IF there is somebody strong enough
> > to handle
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 21:01 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> > [...]
> > Yep. Halfway through the third pass; no errors yet. I'm not holding my
> > breath.
> > Any ideas on where to read up on those error messages, to figure out
> > what they actua
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 01:32 +0200, B wrote:
> That's a pity for such a good idea but I don't think the
> omen's good; we'll see (or not…)
It's not the first time the homepage was hacked :(.
Everybody is welcome to help ;).
take a look at
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 18:15 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > I use the PC speaker for
> > notifications/warnings/what ever and I use ALSA to play sound from e.g.
> > a YouTube video and for pro-audio I use jac
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 11:42 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> to find those immense files that were put in the wrong places
> (downloaded distros mostly)
Obsessional neurotics like me don't need to care about such things. It's
unlikely that we miss to care about deleting stuff that was randomly
download
Is GNOME3 easily available by other *nix alike systems? If not, what
could be the reason? Do other *nix alike systems provide systemd? If
not, what's the reason?
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On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 19:15 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > So, maybe 'merged' is a wrong word to describe udev-systemd
> > relationship. But it fits.
Perhaps "merged" indeed is a bad term, it is merged by the upst
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 19:15 +0400, Reco wrote:
> So, maybe 'merged' is a wrong word to describe udev-systemd
> relationship. But it fits.
All of your points IMO are "true". Nobody, neither me, mentions that
currently it is impossible to use udev without caring (too much) about
systemd.
IIUC Reco
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:20 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > >
> &g
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 07:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> > For one thing, I don't think the real JS would send to me as well as
> > to the list.
>
> I wouldn't do it on purpose, anyway :)
Or send top-posting HTML formatted mails. Or ...
The fake to be Jerry wasn't done very good, but it anyway c
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:07 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 10/06/14 23:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:24 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> >> On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector
> >>&
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 13:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > So you are saying the Debian and Ubuntu versions are buggy? Which "live
> > media" version works for you?
> >
> > Have you filed a bug?
>
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 12:10 +0200, Finjan, Salam wrote:
> Good day,
> please delete my post from mailing list!
>
> E-Mail:salam.fin...@nds.aok.de
> Thank you very much
> Finjan
You need to send similar requests to the admin and not to the list, but
you don't need to send this request, since t
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:24 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out
> >> which DIMM(s)?
> >
> > Install memtest86+ and boot on it, the
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> So you are saying the Debian and Ubuntu versions are buggy? Which "live
> media" version works for you?
>
> Have you filed a bug?
>
> Does the memtest86+ package work from the grub menu, for you?
I can't say if it would work from the GR
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 05:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:25 -0700, David Glover-Aoki wrote:
> > I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental.
> >
> > How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:25 -0700, David Glover-Aoki wrote:
> I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental.
>
> How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental?
It can't harm to do some research ;).
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt-sh
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 09 iun 14, 09:30:01, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > I look forward to hearing how other people do or don't work with
> > PulseAudio (and ALSA) in this thread.
>
> I'll try to explain it simply, but I have a feeling this will turn out
>
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I'm using systemd for my everyday Linux since years
To be more precise, for my Arch that was stable until a few days ago, I
at least use systemd, from <= to >=:
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep systemd /var/log/pacman.log
[
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> udev is merged with udev
^ systemd
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On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 03:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > Quote from the first link:
> > >
> > > The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible
>
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 16:52 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 09/06/2014 16:09, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> > For averaged desktop audio users pulseaudio does provide a more or IMO
> > rather less way to handle audio streams.
>
> What do you mean here ? I do notr use pulseaudio,
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 15:51 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> PulseAudio is one of the multiple layer which are made to "simplify"
> the use of sound systems.
It's called a "sound server".
> Which means ( roughly, I'm not a translator ):
> "So, the softwares which are using ALSA will
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 18:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> The 'dot' at the start of the filename is how *nix systems
> traditionally mark a "hidden file". Any filename beginning with a dot
> will be treated as "hidden", and any filename not beginning with one
> won't.
>
> To see them in a terminal,
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 11:45 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Never tried to do that myself, but it should work:
>
> _ install build-dependencies of the package you want ( #aptitude
> build-dep )
> _ download the source package ( $apt-get source )
> _ replace the source code with of
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > In this case "systemd" likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
> > without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a gue
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:35 +0200, B wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200
> Richard Hector wrote:
>
> > I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out
> > which DIMM(s)?
>
> Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least
> 3 complete cycles to run.
I would us
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:08 +0200, Filip wrote:
> $ ls -lA
I recommend to add the h option.
$ ls -hAl
t or d sometimes are useful too, but by default I tend to use -hAl.
Mnemonic, HAL, resp. HAL 9000 is the computer in the movie "2001: A
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On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 08 iun 14, 22:05:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > I will not sign my emails to mailing lists, however, you're mistaken,
> > several people subscribed to Debian user sign there mails. Those people
> &
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 17:53 +0200, Bzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000
> Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>
> > > If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key
> > > signed shouldn't be too difficult.
> >
> > How about Australia?
>
> Not allowed: if you sign your e-mails,
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:46 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:14:56AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > > Hmmm...
> > >
> > > I originally reported this back in November.
> > &
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly
> > shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 10:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly
> shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested
> it, resp. compared it to "rm -r" [1].
>
> Perhap
That's strange, since "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" seemingly
shouldn't remove the directory. I wasn't aware about this, so I tested
it, resp. compared it to "rm -r" [1].
Perhaps you should post the complete script, the culprit seems not to be
"rmdir".
[1]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ touch ~/
As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is
impossible, he simply will use another email address.
Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian
off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the
j.stuc...@outlook.com address?
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On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 00:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Hmmm...
> >
> > I originally reported this back in November.
> >
> > After a while, it went away for me. Downloading the latest (about January
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:04 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> I originally reported this back in November.
>
> After a while, it went away for me. Downloading the latest (about January
> time-frame) "netinst" image worked fine -- both Jessie and Wheezy. I haven't
> tried it recently, th
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 21:43 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
[snip]
Andrew do _not_ reply to Horatio yet. Only consider to reply, assumed he
should apologized to the list and especially to Jerry!
TIA,
Ralf
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On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 15:04 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 6/6/2014 2:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Please Jerry and Horatio stopp this flame war. And especially you
> > Horatio, consider if the above words from you are appropriate. IMO this
> &
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 12:35 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 06/06/2014 12:17 PM, Bzzz wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I do have an IQ of 45.
> >
> > This explains a lot…
>
> Which IQ scale is this score on?
>
> Most of the scale charts
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 09:03 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
>
>
>
> __
> From: Jerry Stuckle
> To: Horatio Leragon
> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter
>
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 10:39 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Your claim of having an IQ of 45 is an insult to those who really DO
> have an IQ of 45.
Full ACK! People with mental handicaps are welcome! Usually people with
mental handicaps are not that eloquent as Horatio is ;).
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On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 03:09 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> Did you know that I'm dyslexic? And there are many categories of
> dyslexia?
I suffer from dyslexia too, but I'm highly gifted and I guess your IQ is
also higher than 45. Learning by doing, to understand --help and man
pages is great when
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 02:52 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> I bet that no one here is willing to give that kind of awesome
> answers, assuming that they know. The so-called experts here will tell
> me to first read the official Debian Reference manual, "man pages" and
> maybe a book on bash scripti
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 21:38 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> >> Why should I subscribe to "d-community-offtopic"? Isn't
> >> chkrootkit a Debian package?
> >
> > No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that
> > carries it in their repos
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 10:56 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit :
> > 05.06.2014, 15:28, "François Patte"
> > :
> >> Bonjour,
> >>
> >> Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable
> >> media under xfce4:
> >>
> >> I can see the icon on the d
Hi Horatio,
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 22:13 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> I now understand why Ubuntu is way more popular than Debian
Opinions like that can better be discussed at the Debian off-topic list.
Ubuntu does cast a bad light on free software, regarding to the Unity
lenses spyware that i
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:18 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> BTW you would be well served to read this site:
>
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> I'm surprised that you haven't been steered to it before, way before.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg00185.html
;
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:24 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> > Yes, there are bad boys on this world, which attempt to compromise
> > foreign computers. In some countries it a normal government practice.
>
> Yes, AFAIK in Pon
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 14:24 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> Yes, there are bad boys on this world, which attempt to compromise
> foreign computers. In some countries it a normal government practice.
Yes, AFAIK in Ponyland, aka Friendship Gardens, it's _not_ normal
government practise.
Horatio, please subs
If you like more uncertainty, you should read about e.g. "heartbleed",
"Unity Lenses" and "Hans Reiser" ;). You are aware that Linux is from
this planet?
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On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 04:18 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> How do I learn it?
Learning by doing ;).
$ chown --help
Usage: chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...
or: chown [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE...
[snip]
Examples:
chown root /uChange the owner of /u to "root".
c
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 01:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> https://startpage.com/ Search term: apt-get manual > First hit:
> http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
JFTR for the search term: apt-get man
or for: apt-get manpage
The second hit is manpages.debian.net ;).
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 00:14 +0100, Brian wrote:
> No. please see apt-get(8) (man apt-get)
A note to the OP. Yet you might not be able to understand the syntax of
a man(ual)page, but you need to learn it.
Btw. you could use a search engine to do research in the Internet.
https://startpage.com/
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 15:50 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> apt-get -f install
>
> means a "force" install, am I correct?
No, you aren't!
"-f, --fix-broken
Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place." -
http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=apt-get
dpkg -i d
On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 04:42 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
>
>
> __
> From: Filip
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Cc: Horatio Leragon
> Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Create backup of system-connections
On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 06:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Assumed there's no data on the stick, IOW assumed you plan to copy to a
> stick, then don't copy the directories and files directly, but write the
> directories and files to a tar archive, so all the permissions ar
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:04:29 +0200, Horatio Leragon
wrote:
Andrei POPESCU, Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:35 PM:
Probably simplest is to switch to root an copy the files to the stick.
How do I switch to root? During installation of Debian, I expressly
clicked "No" to "Allow login as root" optio
On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 08:51 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
> which I think JWM has by default.
Correct, JWM e.g. provides a panel by default, OTOH JWM anyway needs
l
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 12:54 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Who cares if "it's a DE" or not if it does all one expects from one?
I don't care and btw. I don't claim that JWM is a DE. The discussion
started about "speed". I don't think it was about a quick startup, but
about a "fast" GUI performa
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 23:07 +0200, Gour wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>
> > A tiling WM isn't a DE.
>
> Can you tell me what is missing?
>
> It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch
> specific app in a specific workspace. There is
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 22:26 +0200, Gour wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
>
> http://i3wm.org/
A tiling WM isn't a DE.
Regarding to this https://l3net.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cmp-all4.png
comparing MB, JWM is as lightweight as i3, but th
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 22:05 +0300, Catalin Soare wrote:
> dd was running like so: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda.
#!/bin/sh
dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda
echo "dd exit status: $?" >> dd.log
exit
Assumed the exit status isn't 0, there was an error.
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On Thu, 29 May 2014 19:04:13 +0200, Steve Litt
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Tony, do you know of any documentation or other evidence of how
Openbox, Xfce, LXDE, IceWM, and fvwm2 stack up against each other as
far as "lightness"?
What's your definition of lightness?
WM/DE Memory (MB):
https://l3net.files.wordpress
"dep: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" -
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-amd64
linux-image-amd64 is a meta-package, that installs
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64.
If you install the meta-package, I guess an update of the meta-package
will replace linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64, if there should be a
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 06:43 +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2014-05-29 6:27 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf :
> On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might
> > reduce your load.
>
>
On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 14:24 -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> debian over ubuntu hands down for speed and for efficient resources
> utilization. it's a harder install, but for me well worth the extra
> work.
This claim is nonsense. Upstart likely will shorten the startup for
Ubuntu, even while it might s
On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might reduce
> your load.
Correct, however, it doesn't matter if you run JWM or KDE4, when just
using a browser, on an averaged dual-core machine. There won't be
noticeable performa
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 17:54 +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> Ok it seems that nobody is feeling really threaten by the NSA
That's something completely different. In Germany we are aware that the
NSA does absolutely control German Internet nodes. The German Internet
is not German, it's American. Not
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 17:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 11:20 -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
> > On 05/27/2014 11:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 17:02 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> > >> Ahoj,
> > >>
> > >&
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 11:20 -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
> On 05/27/2014 11:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 17:02 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> >> Ahoj,
> >>
> >> Dňa Tue, 27 May 2014 16:21:50 +0200 Diogene Laerce
> >> napísal:
> >&g
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 17:02 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Tue, 27 May 2014 16:21:50 +0200 Diogene Laerce
> napísal:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I missed the thread : I wasn't there for a while but I would
> > like to have your advice on that article :
> >
> > http://igurublog.wordpress.com/
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 09:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> The title of the blog tells you all you need to know.
JFTR the article includes a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owned.
Anyway, I already at the beginning of the Julian Assange affair got the
impression, that Julian Assange isn't worki
"Note that when building a headers package you must run the entire
make-kpkg command under fakeroot: you can't use the --rootcmd fakeroot
option in this case." -
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg2.html
So I'm 50% mistaken and 50% right ;). I anyway need to run my scripts as
root
On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 22:57 +0600, Muntasim Ul Haque wrote:
> I tried several Window Manager and all of them have the same problem:
> while mounting any drive, they show an error saying 'authentication is
> required. Failed to mount drive.' Now what's the solution? While
> mounting in any Deskto
On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 12:40 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 18:58 +0400, Reco wrote:
> >>
> >> fakeroot
> >
> > ... regarding to some claims on this list is a PITA, at least when
On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 11:21 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:55:14 +0100
> Joe wrote:
>
>
> > Another possibility is that it is working fine, but with black text.
> > No, I'm not joking, I've seen this more than once. You could try
> > typing the name of an application you know
On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 18:58 +0400, Reco wrote:
> fakeroot
... regarding to some claims on this list is a PITA, at least when
building a kernel. I run my scripts to build kernel-rts as root.
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On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 18:09 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I don't know how to tell. I could find no place to set the xfce window
> manager, and I didn't want to change something on the openbox settings
> and then restart X or Openbox, because I just have too many windows
> open and too much to do.
>
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > feh to set the root window to a nice background image.
> >
> > I use feh --bg-scale
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote:
>
> > If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies)
> > is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still
> > relying
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote:
> If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies)
> is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still
> relying on Google search anyway ?
Yesno, it is and it isn't at the same time, if you ask this questio
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:30 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> >
> > > > xfe
> >
> > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
> >
> >
> >
>
&g
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