Re: 'Semi-Hot-Swap' of IDE discs

2002-06-19 Thread Emil Pedersen
Vaclav Hula wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:28:52PM +0200, Emil Pedersen wrote: > > > > Is there a way to force the disk to "spin up" before trying to mount > > it? There don't seem to be a "reverse -Y option" to hdparm, does anyone > > know of any other utility that might be worth trying?

RE: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT) - dvd

2002-06-19 Thread Peter Whysall
> -Original Message- > From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 June 2002 12:55 > To: Ron Johnson > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT) - dvd > > > > hi ya > > > > Don't tapes get torn, m

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT) - dvd

2002-06-19 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya > > Don't tapes get torn, munched and demagnetized? be more careful in handling and storage ?? > It's been years since I've seen that, but _maybe_ (or maybe not) > that's because I shell out USD3,000 for a DLT drive and USD60 > for DLT tapes... I'm sure AIT has the same quality. and y

Re: 'Semi-Hot-Swap' of IDE discs

2002-06-19 Thread Vaclav Hula
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:28:52PM +0200, Emil Pedersen wrote: > > Is there a way to force the disk to "spin up" before trying to mount > it? There don't seem to be a "reverse -Y option" to hdparm, does anyone > know of any other utility that might be worth trying? Maybe try hdparm -U/-R Ax --

Re: 'Semi-Hot-Swap' of IDE discs

2002-06-19 Thread Emil Pedersen
Hello nate / list. [...] > second if you don't fork out the cash for a ide hot swap backplane your > best bet I think would be to get a good removable disk drive holder, > and before removing the disk, power it down using hdparm. be sure nothing > is using the disk(no mounted filesystems etc). a

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT)

2002-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 03:37, Oleg wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 10:32, Nicos Gollan wrote: > > But if you seriously want to do backups, you should have a look at > > tape drives. Harddisks, especially IDE disks are in no way a safe > > medium. > > Don't tapes get torn, munched and demagnetized

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT)

2002-06-19 Thread Oleg
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 10:32, Nicos Gollan wrote: > But if you seriously want to do backups, you should have a look at > tape drives. Harddisks, especially IDE disks are in no way a safe > medium. Don't tapes get torn, munched and demagnetized? Why not do backups on CD-R/RW? Oleg -- To UNSUBSC

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs (OT)

2002-06-19 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 18:41, Mark Roach wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 10:32, Nicos Gollan wrote: > > But if you seriously want to do backups, you should have a look at > > tape drives. Harddisks, especially IDE disks are in no way a safe > > medium. > > Uh-oh don't start that one up again :) OK

Re: 'Semi-Hot-Swap' of IDE discs - bios

2002-06-18 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, nate wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > for backup purposes (on i386 architecture) I'm planning the purchase of > > two 60GB-IDE discs, an exchange frame [right word?] and a > > PCI-IDE-Controller Card. SCSI is no option due to the huge difference in > > the price, at l

Re: 'Semi-Hot-Swap' of IDE discs

2002-06-18 Thread nate
> Dear list, > > for backup purposes (on i386 architecture) I'm planning the purchase of > two 60GB-IDE discs, an exchange frame [right word?] and a > PCI-IDE-Controller Card. SCSI is no option due to the huge difference in > the price, at least here in Germany. > > Since my knowledge about IDE/AT

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs

2002-06-18 Thread Mark Roach
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 10:32, Nicos Gollan wrote: > But if you seriously want to do backups, you should have a look at tape > drives. Harddisks, especially IDE disks are in no way a safe medium. > Uh-oh don't start that one up again :) -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: "Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs

2002-06-18 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 15:09, Alexander Steinert wrote: > Dear list, > > for backup purposes (on i386 architecture) I'm planning the purchase > of two 60GB-IDE discs, an exchange frame [right word?] and a > PCI-IDE-Controller Card. SCSI is no option due to the huge difference > in the price, at le

"Semi-Hot-Swap" of IDE discs

2002-06-18 Thread Alexander Steinert
Dear list, for backup purposes (on i386 architecture) I'm planning the purchase of two 60GB-IDE discs, an exchange frame [right word?] and a PCI-IDE-Controller Card. SCSI is no option due to the huge difference in the price, at least here in Germany. Since my knowledge about IDE/ATA is near zero