Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-10-01 Thread Marco Möller
On 01.10.21 03:37, Rick Thomas wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2021 30 Sep 15:15 -0500, Marco Möller wrote: SUMMARY: I never observed problems with ext4 on my since 4 years heavily used USB pen-drive. Good Luck! Marco Thanks Marco! That is a very useful

Re: USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 07:22:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > One more lesson applies to usb memory sticks. All of the guts visit China > before going into the cases with those trademarks on them. Definitely. Tell me where else to find high-skilled cheap labour and good tech infrastructure.

Re: USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-10-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
One more lesson applies to usb memory sticks. All of the guts visit China before going into the cases with those trademarks on them. On Fri, 1 Oct 2021, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/1/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > I take two lessons out of it: > > > > (1) quality of those things

Re: USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-10-01 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/1/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I take two lessons out of it: > > (1) quality of those things scatters widely. Do take Marco's > advise seriously and have always a Plan B. In my case, it's > Just A Backup (TM), so I make it so my main disk doesnt > fail until I find a replacement stick

USB memory stick quality [was: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive]

2021-10-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:13:48PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: [...] > What I suggest you to consider: > (1) Although never having had trouble myself, for being prepared for > a USB hardware failure, which others are warning of [...] Not my main file system just the backups, but this is a very

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-10-01 Thread Anssi Saari
Nate Bargmann writes: > That leads me to think that discard could be problematic on some > devices. Does a USB flash drive fall into that category? "USB flash drive" is a little generic. Bottom of the barrel in quality and price are memory sticks like the Sandisk Ultra Fit mentioned and they

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 30 Sep 15:15 -0500, Marco Möller wrote: >> SUMMARY: >> I never observed problems with ext4 on my since 4 years heavily used USB >> pen-drive. >> >> Good Luck! >> Marco > > Thanks Marco! > > That is a very useful review of your

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 30 Sep 15:15 -0500, Marco Möller wrote: > SUMMARY: > I never observed problems with ext4 on my since 4 years heavily used USB > pen-drive. > > Good Luck! > Marco Thanks Marco! That is a very useful review of your experience. Your taking the time to write it up is greatly appreciated.

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-30 Thread Marco Möller
On 29.09.21 14:59, Nate Bargmann wrote: Earlier this year I purchased a nice Lenovo Carbon X1 with an NVME SSD with Win 10 Pro installed. Ordinarily I would reformat the drive without a second thought but in this case I really do have occasional need to use Win 10 (Kenwood radio programming

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 08:55:31PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 29 Sep 09:47 -0500, Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > A test run with KDE Plasma shows that performance is acceptable even > > > with EXT4 as the file system.

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 29 Sep 09:47 -0500, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > A test run with KDE Plasma shows that performance is acceptable even > > with EXT4 as the file system. I now have some SanDisk Ultra Fit flash > > drives arriving in 128GB

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 29 Sep 16:40 -0500, David Christensen wrote: > I have several SanDisk UltraFit USB 3.0 Flash Drive 16 GB, and have > installed Debian onto them using btrfs and ext4. Both filesystems work. > btrfs requires periodic re-balancing, which is time consuming. A few years back I built up a

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 29 Sep 12:50 -0500, Brian wrote: > On Wed 29 Sep 2021 at 11:34:22 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > Thanks, Reco. That is useful to me. > > Your question and Reco's response were also useful to me, if only > because I had not come across F2FS previously. On a USB device I > use ext44

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread David Christensen
On 9/29/21 05:59, Nate Bargmann wrote: Earlier this year I purchased a nice Lenovo Carbon X1 with an NVME SSD with Win 10 Pro installed. Ordinarily I would reformat the drive without a second thought but in this case I really do have occasional need to use Win 10 (Kenwood radio programming

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Brian
On Wed 29 Sep 2021 at 11:34:22 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Thanks, Reco. That is useful to me. Your question and Reco's response were also useful to me, if only because I had not come across F2FS previously. On a USB device I use ext44 without any noticable problems. -- Brian.

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
Thanks, Reco. That is useful to me. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819

Re: "Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > A test run with KDE Plasma shows that performance is acceptable even > with EXT4 as the file system. I now have some SanDisk Ultra Fit flash > drives arriving in 128GB capacity (overkill, oh well). I am now >

"Proper" filesystem for Debian installed on a flash drive

2021-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
Earlier this year I purchased a nice Lenovo Carbon X1 with an NVME SSD with Win 10 Pro installed. Ordinarily I would reformat the drive without a second thought but in this case I really do have occasional need to use Win 10 (Kenwood radio programming mostly) and since swapping the NVME is not