Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-16 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:28:45 -0800 Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote: Celejar wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:13:15 -0800 Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-15 Thread Marc Shapiro
Celejar wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:13:15 -0800 Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:16:49AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 07:30 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: How srange: $ date -...@1234567890 Sat Feb 14 00:31:30 CET 2009 What's so strange about people in different time zones getting different results? $ date -...@1234567890 Fri Feb

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz [2009 Feb 14 04:05 -0600]: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
And how about Finnish version: tiistaina 10. helmikuuta 2009 kello 19.24 And how about a final version There, fixed that for you. (Sorry, I couldn't resist) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Marc Shapiro
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/14/2009 04:21 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:16:49AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 07:30 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: How srange: $ date -...@1234567890 Sat Feb 14 00:31:30 CET 2009 What's so strange about people in different time zones getting different

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-14 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:13:15 -0800 Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 07:37 PM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:12:21AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 08:32 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 07:32 PM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:23:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 05:17 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: No, I think the much better idea would be to ditch timezones and put the whole world on UTC. Get rid of DST and 12-hour clocks, too, while

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:11:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Days beginning (near) daybreak, and years beginning on a seasonal boundary and having 13 each 28 day months are also good ideas that won't get implemented. Too much inertia. How would days beginning (near) daybreak cope with

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread David Jardine
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 05:17:47AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: [...] No, I think the much better idea would be to ditch timezones and put the whole world on UTC. Get rid of DST and 12-hour clocks, too, while you're at it. There is absolutely no real benefit to having the clock say 7am

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:29:37 + David Jardine da...@jardine.de wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 05:17:47AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: [...] No, I think the much better idea would be to ditch timezones and put the whole world on UTC. Get rid of DST and 12-hour clocks, too, while

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Christopher Judd
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 02:34 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] problem? No. Nobody runs a computer connected to the internet without connecting to an NTP server regularly. These servers simply change Except 95% of Windows users. ^^^

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! How can you make such a comment when you have *no clue* as to what any other entity does? --

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 07:59 AM, Christopher Judd wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 02:34 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] problem? No. Nobody runs a computer connected to the internet without connecting to an NTP server regularly. These servers simply change Except

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! How can you

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 05:17 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:11:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Days beginning (near) daybreak, and years beginning on a seasonal boundary and having 13 each 28 day months are also good ideas that won't get implemented. Too much inertia. How would

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:23:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 05:17 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:11:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Extremes are, by definition, outliers. Like all outliers, they'll have to make do with something designed for the

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Marc Shapiro
Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The Cathedral and the. Sorry to nitpick, but I could resist. -- Marc Shapiro

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 08:32 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:05:10 -0800 Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Avi Greenbury
Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The Cathedral and the. Sorry to nitpick, but I could resist. What's

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 08:54 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:23:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 05:17 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:11:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Extremes are, by definition, outliers. Like all outliers, they'll have to

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:12:21 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 08:32 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 09:10 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip]

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us. How far out would broadcasts of

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:10 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 09:30 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:10 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:32:22AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 09:33 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life exists

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 09:16 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The Cathedral and the.

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:16:49 + Avi Greenbury avismailinglistacco...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Avi, What's the name of that law that states that any post pointing out someone's mistake will always include a typo of its own? It one of the applications of Murphy's (Sod's) Law, I reckon.

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:33 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed February 11 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: I *remember* him saying billions and billions back on /Cosmos/. Going to IMDB, I see that what he really said was the quite similar billions upon billions. do I need to get out my boxed set of Cosmos VHS tapes for you?? yes, I remember that line!!

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net [2009 Feb 11 09:31 -0600]: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 10:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:33 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Hey, the /DoH/ was a great show! Uh, yeah. Right. I forgot who I'm talking to. Sorry to offend you, Mr. Bodine. Sigh. about Smurfs never

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 10:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: ... about Smurfs never made it out of the local region. If, of course, what I read is accurate... Where'd you read it? Some science-related web site. Ron, we've told you MANY times not to

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 03:27 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 10:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: ... about Smurfs never made it out of the local region. If, of course, what I read is accurate... Where'd you read it? Some science-related web site.

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:29:03AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/11/2009 10:11 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:29:03AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 09:18 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: [snip] I think Bill Watterson put it best: The surest sign that intelligent life

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:32:12PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: 2nd star to the left, and straight on til.. oh.. wait.. wrong story! Paul, I've forgotton that reference. I've always loved it. Do you remember (other than Star Trek, of course). Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:23:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 05:17 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote: No, I think the much better idea would be to ditch timezones and put the whole world on UTC. Get rid of DST and 12-hour clocks, too, while you're at it. There is absolutely no real

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:12:21AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/11/2009 08:32 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0600 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:47 AM, Jack Schneider wrote: [snip] We are probably the only entities in the universe who

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca said: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:32:12PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: 2nd star to the left, and straight on til.. oh.. wait.. wrong story! Paul, I've forgotton that reference. I've always loved it. Do you remember (other than Star Trek, of course).

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed February 11 2009, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:  2nd star to the left, and straight on til.. oh.. wait.. wrong story! Paul, I've forgotton that reference.  I've always loved it.  Do you remember (other than Star Trek, of course). Doug. that would be Peter Pan.. -- Paul Cartwright

[OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo p...@linux624:~$ date -...@1234567890 date: invalid date `...@1234567890' p...@linux624:~$ Woohoo! -- Best Regards Peter Hugosson-Miller This email has been scanned by the DefenderSoft Email Threat Protection. For more

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Jordi Moles Blanco
En/na Peter Hugosson-Miller ha escrit: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo p...@linux624:~$ date -...@1234567890 date: invalid date `...@1234567890' p...@linux624:~$ Woohoo! ??? That's not the answer you are supposed to get. This is: ds feb

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2009 Feb 10 06:27 -0600]: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 $ date -...@1234567890 Fri Feb 13 17:31:30 CST 2009 I'd read about this on Linux Today a day or two back. Another interesting time milestone. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 13:32:59 Nate Bargmann wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2009 Feb 10 06:27 -0600]: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 $ date -...@1234567890 Fri Feb 13 17:31:30 CST 2009 I'd read about this on Linux Today a day or two back. Another

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 07:30 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009 13:32:59 Nate Bargmann wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2009 Feb 10 06:27 -0600]: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 $ date -...@1234567890 Fri Feb 13 17:31:30 CST 2009 I'd read about this on Linux

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 15:16:49 Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 07:30 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009 13:32:59 Nate Bargmann wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2009 Feb 10 06:27 -0600]: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 SNIP $ date

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:30:20 +0100 Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: Hello Thierry, $ date -...@1234567890 Sat Feb 14 00:31:30 CET 2009 And; Fri Feb 13 23:31:30 GMT 2009 So, TZ dependant, then. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)rad

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:35:35PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: Because according to man date: -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not ???now??? my guess was that string is not time zone related. Maybe I am wrong. But I change my time zone to Pacific

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Allums
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo Totally irrelevant, but: Isn't the Linux epoch 64 bits? Thus, what? Anything? Aside from the sun becoming a white dwarf before it rolls over. $date -...@9876543210 Fri Dec 22 14:13:30 CST 2282 Mark Allums -- To

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Mark Allums wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo Totally irrelevant, but: Isn't the Linux epoch 64 bits? Thus, what? Anything? Aside from the sun becoming a white dwarf before it rolls over. Better a white dwarf

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread John Hasler
Mark Allums writes: Totally irrelevant, but: Isn't the Linux epoch 64 bits? Only with a 64 bit kernel. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Flaig
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 14:30 schrieb Thierry Chatelet: On Tuesday 10 February 2009 13:32:59 Nate Bargmann wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2009 Feb 10 06:27 -0600]: Try this: date -...@1234567890 $ date -...@1234567890 Fri Feb 13 17:31:30 CST 2009 How srange: $

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Teemu Likonen
On 2009-02-10 14:47 (+0100), Thomas Flaig wrote: Acctually this is a good reason to introduce the use of UTC not only for the BIOS but also for the user interface! ;) Maybe not. :-) But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. Below are two attribution lines

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 10:20 AM, John Hasler wrote: Mark Allums writes: Totally irrelevant, but: Isn't the Linux epoch 64 bits? Only with a 64 bit kernel. And 64-bit userland. $ date -...@9876543210 date: invalid date `...@9876543210' $ uname -m x86_64 $ dpkg-architecture DEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread John Hasler
Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be useful would be a standard whereby dates and times (even when embedded in text) would transmitted and stored in

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Ron Johnson wrote: Besides, wouldn't changing size_t would break binary compatibility when moving data files from an older machine to a newer machine Sure, just as changing long or int. (At least long is 64-bit on amd64, not sure about int, and too lazy to check right now). That's why they're

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 12:02 PM, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be useful would be a standard whereby dates and times (even when

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: Besides, wouldn't changing size_t would break binary compatibility when moving data files from an older machine to a newer machine? FWIW, I copy data files between my amd64 system and my x86_64 or i386 on a daily basis without

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be useful would be a standard whereby dates and

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 12:49 PM, Eric Gerlach wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-10_13:11:06, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 12:49 PM, Eric Gerlach wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-10_10:20:03, John Hasler wrote: Mark Allums writes: Totally irrelevant, but: Isn't the Linux epoch 64 bits? Only with a 64 bit kernel. -- John Hasler I think you are mistaken. The current _standard_ is 64 bits for unix time. Most actual computers don't yet carry the extra 32

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-10_12:02:21, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be useful would be a standard whereby dates and times (even when

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 02:09 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-10_13:11:06, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2009 12:49 PM, Eric Gerlach wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/10/2009 02:34 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] problem? No. Nobody runs a computer connected to the internet without connecting to an NTP server regularly. These servers simply change Except 95% of Windows users. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread steef
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo st...@lenny1:~$ date -...@1234567890 za feb 14 00:31:30 CET 2009 that 's making a difference, or not? s. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

2009-02-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net [2009 Feb 10 13:12 -0600]: On 02/10/2009 12:49 PM, Eric Gerlach wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it